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  Topic: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
girlcookart

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PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:28 pm   Subject: Re: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
ashwin1224 wrote (View Post):

You absolutely dont need a fertile substrate for the plants you've selected. All the plants you've mentioned are slow to moderate growers, and will be very easily be overtaken by algae provided to nutrients. Anubias, Java fern and all mosses are best grown attached to rocks and driftwood, infact anubias will promptly die if you plant it in the substrate.

Be very careful with the amount of soil you dig up to add to the tank. Also beware that this soil needs to be completely free of any pesticides and fertilizers. At max us a 0.5inch thick layer of soil, which should be around 2kg given your tank size. Top it with 1 inch of gravel, dont use fine sand as it will trap the bubbles of methane and ammonia emanating from the decaying organic matter in the soil forming toxic pockets of air and ruining your water chemistry.

As for plants, do consider Cryptocoryne species, hydrocotyle triparita, vallisneria and bacopa species, along with your selection. You will need the tank to be moderately planted to use up all the nutrients present in the substrate, and to over power any algae in the cycling period.

I'll keep what you said in mind. Thankyou so much for the info. I was a bit confused in the plants department but you cleared a lot of my doubts. I will post an update on the tank as soon as I begin working on it. Just today I recieved my order for lights from Amazon website. Just waiting to get the hood made and I'll set it all up.
  Topic: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 6
Views: 1046

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:57 pm   Subject: Re: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
ashwin1224 wrote (View Post):
girlcookart wrote (View Post):

I wanted to put only a slight drizzling of vermicompost as the bottom most layer if i'm using red soil (since red soil is poor in potash) and also I've seen many on YouTube use some kind of Potters clay clumps along with dirt in natural aquariums.. Should terracotta clay do?
Thanks for your input! Much appreciate it. If co2 deficiency  is a problem, then in injecting it via diy method(citric acid+soda)


DIY CO2 is a good addition to any Planted tank, check the DIY CO2 kits on amazon, they are well worth the money and make life a lot easier. That said, what plants do you want to grow? Many aquatic plants can survive easily in inert substrates. Adding an enriched substrate only invites algae issues if you dont know what you are doing. Its better to have a slightly less nutritious substrate, and if your plants are showing signs of deficiency, just fertilize the water column with the required mineral.


Thanks for the advice.. I am just now receiving all my supplies from Amazon (since I don't have a dedicated lfs where I live) so once everything arrives, I'm gonna dig up some fertile soil bear the mango plantations around here and start aquascaping.  I'll be ordering plants online as well. I'll be growing some hardy plants like anubis, Java ferns, moss and stems. I very much prefer non fussy varieties since I want them to grow tall and bushy quickly.
  Topic: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 6
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PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:35 am   Subject: Re: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
ashwin1224 wrote (View Post):
Your substrate looks good, but I feel it is too rich in nutrients, at the same time your light looks really bright as well. When there is good light and a good substrate, it forms an ideal combination for flora to flourish, but higher organisms like plants will only flourish when there is lots of CO2 to drive their high growth rate. If you do not provide pressurized CO2 to this system, you will encourage the growth of primitive fauna which can tolerate low CO2 conditions, i.e. Algae. Lots of Algae.

I would suggest to skip vermicompost, just use potting mix with regular clay pellets on top and dont skimp on water changes if you are not gonna dose pressurized CO2. Rest everything looks fine.

All the best! Thumb Up

I wanted to put only a slight drizzling of vermicompost as the bottom most layer if i'm using red soil (since red soil is poor in potash) and also I've seen many on YouTube use some kind of Potters clay clumps along with dirt in natural aquariums.. Should terracotta clay do?
Thanks for your input! Much appreciate it. If co2 deficiency  is a problem, then in injecting it via diy method(citric acid+soda)
  Topic: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 6
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PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:32 am   Subject: LIGHTING & SUBSTRATE for new tank, help please!
I am planning on setting up a planted new tank which will be low tech.
SUBSTRATE : thinking of Red soil or potting mix (Casa De armor brand from Amazon website)  +vermicompost mix. Capped off by regular aquarium clay pellets.
LIGHTING : 15 watt (2250 lumen) Corvi (Brand) LED 2 feet tube.
Tank dimensions (pre-owned) :(lbh) = 21x11x24 inches. 25 gallon. Stand is a solid metal stand holding this up.

PLEASE TELL YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT Cheap substrate and lighting choice.
I need to know about how much soil to use as well
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
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PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:17 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
kidrock wrote (View Post):
I would recommend 18" height as it would look odd otherwise. Also you cant make it of exact size, leave a couple of inches around the borders of the tank unless you are placing the tank on the top.
Thanks for the suggestions,kidrock..I have left space on the sides and given the above measurements. There is more than a good amount of space to wiggle my fingers into.
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
Views: 4111

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:15 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
One more thing, what struck me is this idea: Is is ok to make tall aquariums? I mean, I was thinking of two options:
1. Break the tops rack's base and create one large aquarium that is taller than wider/longer. Which means the aquarium size measurements would be: 26"(h) x 22" (l) x 11.5"(w) .
                                                                 OR
2. Keeping the stand as it is but extending the top aquarium a little taller than the stand is. Which would mean: 20" - 24" (h) x 22"(l) x 11.5(w).

Are these ideas feasible in terms of looks, stability and ease of use and installation? Please give me your opinions.
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
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PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:07 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
kidrock wrote (View Post):
Hey girlcookart, welcome back to the hobby. As someone who returned back to it a couple of months ago I know how you feel.

My 2 cents. Dont keep a tank at the bottom. Use it for storing aquarium supplies and stuff(filter) plus a 1 feet hospital tank. As random2 suggested, pls get rid of those loops. Also I would prefer the top area for the main tank(18"lx11"wx15"h) and have 2 nanos in the middle section. That would mean adding a base to the top section. Outdoors you will have algae issues. Even if you have sunlight for a couple of hours. The sun is a very strong power source. Better take that into consideration.

Also go for 1 tank at a time. Get a nano and grow plants in it and chk out the conditions for atleast 3 months before you go for the main tank. Then you can decide the type of glass to go for.

Kidrock


I too think the rings are a hindrance to the beauty of a tank.. will get them removed most probably. I was thinking of converting the bottom into a storage place for aquarium stuff but I realized that I have a store-room plus a cupboard space in the drawing room to horde all supplies. So I don't want to ruin a perfectly eligible display area with clutter. I really don't want a nano on the top, although the bottom is viable..you see, when I wanted to go for a larger aquarium I don't really have the space..so I am giving myself a semi-satisfaction with something that looks large enough an aquarium. Honestly the light doesn't touch that deep into that space allotted for this aquarium. What you see in the pic is the maximum light that hits area (even on the sunniest of days).

@shyamhegde Yeah, I dont really know anyone owning a cat here..and the grill is too compact for any stray cat to enter either. So, thats a safety check.
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
Views: 4111

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:38 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
random2 wrote (View Post):
Some thoughts on the rack -
It would be better if you give this to a workshop and get the following things done -
1. Remove those decorative loop kind of grill.
2. Remove the top protrusions and add metal strips there so that you can keep one more tank :)

Tank dimensions -
The maximum height for the tank going into the lowest level - It should be (12.5" - height of the decorative grill). I would say not more than 6". You need to accommodate a thermocol sheet and should have enough room on top for maintenance.

Same thing for the next level.

If you plan on what I have mentioned above, you can have a third tank which could be slightly taller.

Others -
1. Since you keep this outside, my suggestion is not to have any lights (unless you want to keep plants that need lot of light - then you might have algae issues)
2. How is the weather in your city during summer? If its going to be too hot, I guess you will have issues as the tanks are going to be quite small.
3. In my opinion, you dont need clear glass for this kind of setup. But its your take. I would go for clear glass if I were to be setting up a tank inside.

This will be ideal for hardy plants and fishes.
Keep us posted on the progress and all the best.


Thanks for the suggestions,Deepak. This is going to be a planted tank/s. And I am not thinking of extending the height of the tank to make it any taller to add an extra tank, as the extra tank would be exposed to direct light. I am gonna be placing a cute looking (like old-style tile roofed home design) light hood...my pen name is "girl" cookart Chuckle .As for the weather: It gets quite hot in the summer,the weather has become erratic of late. But the balcony seems unaffected or atleast is relatively cooler and shadier than outside. I wanted the clear glass because I want it to be a visual piece of attraction. Me and my family members frequent the balcony. Or else I would have placed the tank inside but Im short of space inside. I agree with you about the bottom space aquarium's height, as I do need to put my hand in for cleaning it regularly. Thinking of getting a clip-on nano light for the bottom space.

@Nidhi: yeah, I'll ask about the glass costs here. And yes, is 5mm glass thick enough?
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
Views: 4111

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:39 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
Nidhi wrote (View Post):
Hi, welcome back girlcookart.. Sorry to hear about your plight.
The place looks good enough for the tanks, but have you considered protection against rain. It would would be dangerous if rain water gets in to your lighting fixtures..
The stand is very cute, but don't forget to take the dimension for the tank from the inside to inside of the angles on the stand.. Styrofoam is a must to cushion the bottom glass against the bottom beams, or else your tank will crack.
I would also suggest to go ahead with clear glass on the sides as well. Why..? the seam where the side glass meets the front glass will be crystal clear. or else if you use regular glass for the sides, the seam will look greenish. Or don't go for the clear glass at all..


Glad to be back, Nidhi Very Happy About protecting the hood lights, I am getting a plywood/deal-wood hood made(which is a church top like-arch shape). It will be coated with a waterproof paint and slightly more sloped than the size of the stand to prevent rain water getting in. If this too is a bother, I might just get a thin piece of clear acrylic sheet and hang on the window to prevent rain from bothering the tank. Can you please tell me what cost to expect when going for extra clear glass?
P.S: I have quoted the internal measurements noting the edge grooves/angles of the stand.
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
Views: 4111

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:36 pm   Subject: Re: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
Dheeraj_Dj wrote (View Post):
Hello There

Ans 1: That space is perfect for the outdoor tank provided the sunlight is only for few hours 4-5 max. Try it for few weeks & if you see the water temperature going high during those 4 to 5 hours try adding more pots of plants on that wall so that the light is reduced(I dont think it should over heat)

I have a 2.5 by 1.5 cement tank with around 5 hours of direct sunlight in my balcony & the plants & shrimps thrive there. Not had any issue with the water temperature since the cement tank keeps it cool.

Ans 2: My POV is to have 2 big tanks than Nano since you have the space for it. Thickness of 8mm is more than sufficient for that size.  Cost differs a lot.. so better to check with couple of vendors where you live.. (There was a difference of INR 100 a sqft for clear glass when we enquired 2 diff vendors for the same brand)

Ans 3: I guess you will require a hood & light for the top tank & the bottom one might have space enough only for the lights. Yes a thermocol base will help.

Question: Are you planning to add anything on the 16.0" space too? If not  that gives  a lot of space for the hood & light.


Please keep us posted on the progress:-)


Hi, thanks for the prompt reply. the 16.0" space is for holding the hood(for lighting). So I provided the wall space measurements. I  just measured via an online 'volume calculator', the top space of the stand can hold a 13-14g tank...eh, but atleast  Rolling Eyes it holds a tank of some size. And about the bottom space of the tank, I am thinking of mounting a light on the side on top of the side-stand(where I have placed garden pots). Will extra clear float glass from saint gobain do? I was thinking of keeping the premium glass only on sides and front. And normal glass for the back and base.
  Topic: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
girlcookart

Replies: 16
Views: 4111

PostForum: Aquascaping   Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:32 pm   Subject: Balcony Planted Aquariums Help please!
Hiya Fish People! Its been a while and I haven't checked out IAH much. Thats because I was on the shift(to a different city) a few months ago and I had to give up my old 2 footer and nano to a friend(because I couldn't carry them all the way to new city). It wasn't an easy decision to make, but it was upsetting to let go of my babies. I tried to disctract myself from the hobby through a new one - gardening but to no avail. Recently I got this old Aquarium stand from a friend. It's kinda small but made of really good material and sturdy (the same metal they use to make gates).

Now, I am thinking of getting back into the hobby with a new setup (or setups). So, I need all you experts to help me with this.

QUESTION 1: This is the balcony space. It receives direct sunlight in the afternoon for a couple of hours but the open corner in this photo is pretty shaded throughout the day because of the wall and (air) temperature is pretty cool constantly. So, is it ok to keep an aquarium in this space as it will not be exposed to the balcony window?






QUESTION 2: My dream is to own a huge tank. But the space constraints will only afford me a small tank(/s). So I am thinking of spending money on good clear glass instead(like Saint gobain or suggest me another brand). Here are the internal dimensions of the stand. ]So what size tank should I go for on the top and bottom and thickness of glass? How much will the glass cost? for this size? Should I partition the bottom space with two nanos or a single long tank?


                                     Internal dimensions





QUESTION 3: For lighting should I add in a hood on the top of the stand? There are these grooves to hold squariush legs on top. Also should I put a thermocol/styrofoam base for balance?







Please reply and give me your candid options.
  Topic: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
girlcookart

Replies: 47
Views: 10187

PostForum: Substrates, Rocks, Driftwood and Decorations   Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:47 am   Subject: Re: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
jabba wrote (View Post):
How did it come to 7 to 8K.

12 sqft X 295 =3540
14 sqft X 85  = 1190

Total = 4730


SO tank price will be 5K to 5.5K if you make it considering the cost for Silicon


oh,wow jabba.. thanks for informing me. I thought regular glass was priced around 275 or somewhere there.hence the miscalculation. I have not had the time or opportunity to check around for prices and quotes in shops as I am busy with home shifting. 5k is affordable. Can you quote me how much lighting for a walstad tank at 1.8w/g (planted) tank will cost? Just so that I don't get ripped off once I do visit the electrical shop.. thankyou so much Smile
  Topic: Some of my RCS snaps
girlcookart

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Views: 1851

PostForum: Aquatic Plants and Planted Aquaria   Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:43 pm   Subject: Re: Some of my RCS snaps
they are exploring the territory... nice:)
  Topic: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
girlcookart

Replies: 47
Views: 10187

PostForum: Substrates, Rocks, Driftwood and Decorations   Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:39 pm   Subject: Re: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
jabba wrote (View Post):
For 12 mm clear glass the sqft price was Rs 295
10 mm was 275 and it goes like that
aaakk! with clear glass being used at total 12 sq ft and regular glass at total 14 sq ft … total price comes to 7k-8k..!!! this is getting too much!
  Topic: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
girlcookart

Replies: 47
Views: 10187

PostForum: Substrates, Rocks, Driftwood and Decorations   Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:56 pm   Subject: Re: Can we talk about the DIRT (Diana Walstad) method?
thanks for the boost, @Sandeepraghuvanshi, @Madan,@vkv,@ramarosi .. 45xx is good enough. that and a stand with lights are all I can afford. I'll upgrade to a CO2 system later.. Good willing, I'll have extra moolah for that too.

@vkv: yeah,I have read some of the posts of aquarists here about building their own tanks. I'm thinking of going for a 12 mm extra clear glass front+ sides and regular 12 mm back+bottom. After all,if I'm going big,it better look beautiful too!
 
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