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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: Styrofoam Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Can  anybody  tell  me  that  what  is  a  styrofoam  is  ?
 
 I  am  having    thermocol  sheet    as  a  base  for  my  aquariums.
 
 Is  Thermocol  and  Styrofoam  same  ?
 
 I  want  to  make  a  rocky  background    like  
 
 http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/diy_background.php
 for  one  of  my  tank.  Can  I  do  it  with  Thermocol?
 
 your  opinions  please.
 
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 One  and  the  same  to  my  knowledge  Smile
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 Thanks  Beta,
 
 I  am  going  with  Thermocol  then.
 
 will  Post  updates.
 
 
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 Its  the  same.    Styrofoam  is  the  Trademark  name  for  foam  of  polystyrene  which  is  commonly  called  as  Thermocol  in  India.
 
 Rockbackground  made  of  Thermocol  look  great  when  the  right  colors  are  used  and  when  good  depth  is  provided.  
 
 I  tried  the  rock  background  for  a  2  feet  tank.  The  challange  will  be  to  hold  the  background  down.  I  didnt  stick  it  to  the  back  glass  rather  made  the  bottom  L  Shaped  and  weighed  it  down  using  rocks.  But  it  popped  out  soon.
 It  works  out  very  cheap.  Costed  only  12  Rs  for  a  2  feet  tank.
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 Hi  Veera,
 
 Did  you  use  any  cement  like  thing  on  your  rock  wall  ?  If  yes  then  what  should  I  use  to  cover  the  thermocol  and  which  pait  to  be  used?
 
 I  am  almost  through  with  the  design  part.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Styrofoam Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi,
 
 Can  anybody  tell  me  that  what  is  a  styrofoam  is  ?
                 

 
 It  is  a  product  derived  from  Polystyrene
 
 
                                                 
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 I  am  having    thermocol  sheet    as  a  base  for  my  aquariums.
 
 Is  Thermocol  and  Styrofoam  same  ?
                 

 
 No.  They  are  both  derived  from  Polystyrene,  but  their  properties  are  vastly  different.
 
 
                                                 
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 I  want  to  make  a  rocky  background    like  
 
 http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/diy_background.php
 for  one  of  my  tank.  Can  I  do  it  with  Thermocol?
                 

 
 Thermocole  construction  is  like  many  beads  bonded  together.  You  cannot  cut  shapes  out  of  it  (the  beads  tend  to  fall  off).  Besides,  thermocole  is  not  very  water  resistant,  cannot  be  heat-formed  ,  and  can't  be  glued.
 
 Take  care  while  sourcing  styrofoam.    The  term  is  used  in  general  for  all  kind  of  packaging  material,  including  polystyrene,  EPS  (thermocole)    and  polyurethane  sheet.  The  Dow  Chemical  (brand  owner)  website  says  that  the  product  comes  in  a  distinct  blue  color  and  has  the  brandname  printed  on  it.  Check  the  Dow  Chemical  website  for  more  info.
 
 I  don't  know  if  anyone  sells  it  in  India.  I  searched  Bangalore's  Avenue  road  once  for  Styrofoam  and  couldn't  find  it.  Well,  its  a  different  story  that  what  I  needed  was  Polyurethane  sheet  as  base  for  the  tank,  but  was  using  the  wrong  term    :-)
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 You  can  use  the  regular  portland  cement  or  white  cement.  The  grey  color  of  the  cement  by  itself  will  look  like  a  rock.  
 Use  one  part  cement  to  2/3  parts  fine  sand.  
 Alternatively  you  can  use  white  cement  with  any  cement  colors  or  cement  paint.  You  can  get  the  color  powder  or  cement  paint  from  any  hardware  shop.  
 Mixing  of  red,  black  and  green  will  give  you  a  submerged  algae-covered  rock  look.  
 You  have  to  experiment  and  use  your  creativity.  Choice  of  color  is  yours.  
 
 The  link  you  had  posted  is  excellent  and  illustrates  step  by    step.
 
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 amit,
 
 let  me  know  how  your  background  turns  out,  because  i  was  thinking  about  doing  something  similar  (inspired  by  same  link).    i  wonder  about  the  "do"  ability  for  someone  as  lazy  as  me,  but  i  feel  i  might  end  up  trying...
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 Hi  Lance,
 
 There  is  this  ASK  member  guy  Girish  who  makes  good  artificial  backgrounds.  Stays  on  Bannergatta  Road  near  Adip's  place.
 Some  material  used  by  him.  (He  uses  other  materials  too).  
 
 1.  Styrofoam.
 2.  Polyurethane.
 3.  Thermacole  and  acrylic  cement.
 4.  Thermocole  and  fibre  glass.
 5.  A  mixture  of  thermacole,  acrylic  cement  and  epoxy.
 
 Also  check  out  http://pangeashop.com/
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 Trevor  Wrote:
 
                                                 
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1.  Styrofoam.  
 2.  Polyurethane.  
 3.  Thermacole  and  acrylic  cement.  
 4.  Thermocole  and  fibre  glass.  
 5.  A  mixture  of  thermacole,  acrylic  cement  and  epoxy.  
                 

 
 Could  anyone  please  let  me  know  whether  these  are  available  in  Bangalore  and  if  yes  where?
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Trevor  Wrote:
                                                   
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1.  Styrofoam.  
 2.  Polyurethane.  
 3.  Thermacole  and  acrylic  cement.  
 4.  Thermocole  and  fibre  glass.  
 5.  A  mixture  of  thermacole,  acrylic  cement  and  epoxy.  
                 

 
 Could  anyone  please  let  me  know  whether  these  are  available  in  Bangalore  and  if  yes  where?                

 
 Hi
 
 If  you  know  some  people  involved  in  car  Racing,  they  use  these  kind  of
 Mateials  to  Construct  their  Seats  and  Boady  of  the  Car.  Abi  may  be  of  some  help  in  this  regard.
 
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 Thanks  Sundar.
 
 Hoping  Abhi  come  online.
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 Hi  Everyone,,,
                       This  is  naren,i  live  in  hyderabad.I'm  planning  to  setup  an  chiclid  tank  with  an  rocky  background.though  i've  been  pondering  over  many  of  the  available  websites    but  none  has  given  me  a  clear  picture  of  how  to  start  the  project.  All  is  well  in  what  has  been  told,  but  the  real  problem  arises  with  the  MATERIALS.  There  is  a  lot  of  difference  of  what  we  use  in  India  and  what  they  use.  for  eg:  they    use  styrofoam  what  we  assume  is  thermocol.but  there  is  a  lot  of  difference.  and  they  simply  mention  concrete  mix,  what  is  know  birla  concrete  !!  
                                           Please  anyone  who  is  quite  aquainted  with  setting  up  a  background  please  help  me.  
 1-  Is  styrofoam  available  in  our  markets?
 2.  What  cement  is  used  to  apply  over  the  styrofoam?(please  specify)
 3.What  kind  of  an  epoxy  paint?
 4.what  kinda  ashesive  is  used  for  glueing  purposes?
 5.Can  i  use  beach  sand  as  a  substrate  to  the  chiclid  tank  ?  or  any  tank??
 6.  Is  laterite  available  in  our  markets  ??
 
 Please  do  answer  ,,  i  will  be  greatful  
 
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 Hi  Naren,
 
 I  am  having  a  2'/1'/1'  chiclid  tank  which  is  having  a  DIY  thermocol+cement+sand  backgorund  for  the  last  6  months.
 
 Let  me  answer  your  questions  one  by  one.
 
 
                                                 
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1-  Is  styrofoam  available  in  our  markets?                  

 
 I  couldn't  find  it.  You  can  do  very  well  with  thermocol.  No  issue.
 
 
                                                 
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2.  What  cement  is  used  to  apply  over  the  styrofoam?(please  specify)                  

 
 You  can  use  any  cement.    If  you  want  a  smooth  surface  then  mix  a  little  amount  of  find  sand  .  And  if  you  want  a  rough  cement  (like  mine)  then  use  some  rough  sand  which  people  are  using  for  conctete  mix.
 
 
                                                 
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3.What  kind  of  an  epoxy  paint?                  

 
 If  you  want  color  then  use  cement  color.  Water  will  make  no  harm  to  your  background.
 
 
                                                 
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4.what  kinda  ashesive  is  used  for  glueing  purposes?                  

 
 You  can  use  any  good  aquariam  sealent.  which  is  aquarium  safe.
 
 
                                                 
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5.Can  i  use  beach  sand  as  a  substrate  to  the  chiclid  tank  ?  or  any  tank??                  

 
 I  prefer  river  sand  you  can  mix  some  calcium  source  like  coral  sand  with  it.
 
 
 after  you  finish  with  your  background  then  apply  a  moderate  layer  of  sealant  on  the  background  glass  and  place  your  background  .  let  it  dry  for  about  3-4  days,  then  fill  up  the  aquarium.  
 
 Don't  put  fish  there  .
 
 Change  the  water  every  3-4  days  and  check  the  ph  on  next  day.  
 
 When  you  get  the  ph  value  around  8-9  then  you  can  put  the  fish.
 
 good  luck  with  the  Chiclid  tank.
 
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 Hi  Amitava,
 
 Do  you  have  a  pic  of  your  tank  with  this  background??
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