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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: Hood/skirt Reply with quote

 Hi!
 
 
 
 In  the  lopsided  picture  above,  I  have  drawn  3  figures.  Figure  1  is  the  original  setup.  In  Figure  2,  I  have  removed  the  hoods  and  have  fixed  a  2  feet  tube.  Now,  the  lighting  hangs  above  Tanks  2  and  3.  
 
 I  would  like  to  make  a  hood/skirt  for  the  tube,  as  it  hurts  the  eye.  This  tank  is  in  the  living  room,  and  my  folks  get  bothered  by  the  light  while  watching  TV.
 
 What  I  would  like  is  to  prepare  a  hood  as  in  Figure  3,  and  line  it  on  the  inside  with  Aluminium  foil  thereby  turning  it  into  a  reflector.  What  would  be  an  ideal,  low-cost  and  safe  material  for  the  construction  of  my  hood.  I  had  thought  of  cardboard,  but  would  it  risk  catching  fire?
 
 Jenny
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 Hi  Jenny,  
 Have  you  considered  ply  wood  ?  something  like  what  is  used  over  billiards  and  pool  tables  ?  this  would  suffice  for  tubes  but  not  for  MH.  Any  carpenter  would  be  able  to  make  one  for  you,  if  its  a  hanging  set  up.  This  would  be  for  the  3rd  alternative  the  skirt  as  you  called  it.
 
 If  not  you  can  a  look  at  normal  4  foot  /6  foot  hanging  tubelight  fixtures  with  2  /4  tubes  in  them  which  come  with  a  reflector.  DIY  reflectors  may  not  achieve  the  effeciency  you  may  get  with  a  purpose  designed  &  manufactured  reflector.
 
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 Thanks  Jaideep!
 
 Shall  have  to  do  something  about  this  real  soon.  Is  Cardboard  out  for  a  20W  tube  that  is  2  feet  in  length?
 
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 Hi  Jenny,  
 I  have  used  cardboard  to  make  hoods  when  i  was  a  kid  and  had  my  first  small  tank  but  had  to  redo  them  very  often,  they  would  either  get  affected  by  water  or  lose  shape  or  just  simply  fall  apart  with  time  (sometimes  very  soon  !  )....  the  reason  i  suggested  plywood  was  that  its  long  lasting  and  for  cosmetic  purposes  you  can  later  use  wood  colouring,  paint  or  formica  on  it  and  fit  it  into  the  decor/  furniture  of  the  house.  all  this  without  have  to  get  a  custom  fabricated  aluminium  hood  /  light  fixture  which  would  be  expensive.
 You  can  give  the  cardboard  a  shot  and  see  if  it  works  for  you  but  I  wouldn't  suggest  it  as  a  long  term  solution.  As  I  mentioned  earlier  the  reflectors  are  the  key  and  its  better  to  get  one  that  is  manufactured  for  the  purpose  of  lighting  to  get  optimum  lighting.
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 Thanks  Jai!
 Gotta  catch  the  carpenter  behind  my  house.
 
 Jenny
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 With  a  design  as  in  fig  3,consider  that  lots  of  fish  like  to  jump  out  of  their  tanks  once  in  a  while  Exclamation  
 
 If  you  are  handy  with  a  drill,and  know  how  to  use  nuts  and  bolts,consider  drilling  holes  into  the  angles(I  assume  the  stand  is  made  of  metal  angles),and  using  plywood  strips  of  appropriate  measurements  on  all  four  sides...with  the  front  panel  attached  to  the  upper  angle  by  2  or  3  hinges.
 
 For  better  understanding  what  I  just  said,check  the  gallery.  Smile
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 Thank  you  Murthy.  I  managed  to  figure  out  your  design  finally.  It  took  me  a  while  as  I  don't  have  an  aptitude  for  designs.    :wink:  
 
 I  would  have  to  recruit  my  dad  and  friends  to  get  my  work  done  as  I  am  rather  clumsy  with  tools.    Oops  I  help  around,  but  don't  attempt  anything  major.  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: 2' tube hood Reply with quote

 Hi  Jenny,
                 Forget  the  busy  carpenter,  the  Aluminium  foil,  the  drilling,  fixing  and  the  fish  jumping  out.
 
 Go  to  J.P  lighting  Palace  contact  Sampath  and  ask  for  two  feet  double  tube  Industrial  fitting  with  hood.  Cost  is  Rs.  400/-  .  Tubes  as  per  brand  cost  extra.  One  year  warranty.    He  has  got  a  big  catalogue.  Check  it  out.  
   
 Madan  picked  up  three  double  tube  sets  last  week.
 
 J.P.  Lighting  Palace,
 No.  241,  Chickpet,  Bangalore  -53
 Ph.2252011,2260060.
 
 Refer  to  me  and  he  will  give  you  a  stool  to  sit  in  his  busy  place  as  you  have  a  peep  at  the  various  M.H.  lights,  tubes  and  CFL's  (you  could  probably  use)  while  he  get  your  stuff  from  his  godown  or  factory.
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 trevor,
 
 that  might  work  out  nice  and  cheap...
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 Trevor,  
 I  think  that  is  the  best.  I  didn't  think  I  would  get  it  that  easily  (or  cheaply  either),  'because  I  had  an  awful  time  getting  my  fixtures  for  the  3  feet  tank.  I  placed  an  order  at  Excel,  called  them  a  dozen  times  a  week,  visited  them  everyday,  and  finally  got  some  fancy  stuff  that  turned  out  quite  expensive.  
 
 BTW..  does  salt  get  accumulated  on  your  reflectors?  It  does  on  mine.  Confused  
 
 Jenny
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Dolphy  wrote:                
Trevor,  
 I  think  that  is  the  best.  I  didn't  think  I  would  get  it  that  easily  (or  cheaply  either),  'because  I  had  an  awful  time  getting  my  fixtures  for  the  3  feet  tank.  I  placed  an  order  at  Excel,  called  them  a  dozen  times  a  week,  visited  them  everyday,  and  finally  got  some  fancy  stuff  that  turned  out  quite  expensive.  
 
 BTW..  does  salt  get  accumulated  on  your  reflectors?  It  does  on  mine.  Confused  
 
 Jenny                

 
 Jenny,
 My  experiences  with  planted  tanks  and  lighting  fixtures  has  led  me  to  settle  for  tanks  30  inches  in  length  instead  of  2  feet  tanks  and  4  1/2  feet  in  length  instead  of  4  feet  tanks.
 This  gives  you  enough  flexibility  to  DIY  or  adapt  lighting  fixtures.  With  the  regular  2  feet  or  4  feet  tanks  this  is  very  difficult  as  you  have  to  settle  for  aquarium  lightings  which  are  prohibitively  expensive.
 Moreover,  with  good  lighting  and  a  pleasing  aquarium  very  few  people  notice  the  lighting  fixture.  An  expensive  fixture  is  more  a  status  symbol  than  anything  else,  and  are  Ok  if  you  stick  religiously  to  ONE  tank  only.  More  than  one  tank  you  are  wasting  money.
 A  3  feet  tank  is  a  definite  no  no  in  my  book  as  it  is  too  difficult  to  light,  finding  a  fixture,  correct  tubes,  etc.,  is  a  pain,  compared  to  2  1/2  feet  and  4  1/2  feet  tanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Folks!
 
 Here  are  some  pictures  of  my  new  hood.  It  looks  fine,  but  I  am  not  very  happy  with  it,  as  too  much  of  heat  is  generated  by  those  4  tubelights.  And  the  holes  punched  in  do  not  seem  to  help  much.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Hi  Dolphy,
 
 I  saw  your  pictures.  You  have  put  the  whole  bracket  with  stater,  and  chokes  inside  the  hood.  That  will  definitely  generate  heat.  Try  to  change  the  design.
 
 The  ballasts  /  starter  should  be  out  of  the  hood.  Use  electronic  chokes,  this  will  consume  less  electricity  and  generates  less  heat.    
 
 Only  the  tubes  should  be  inside  the  hood.
 
 Try  to  mount  a  fan  on  any  side  panel  and  small  holes  in  opposite  panel.  That  fan  should  blow  air  into  the  hood.  Then  the  heat  will  go  out  by  the  holes.
 
 regards
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Thanks  Amitava!
 
 I  wanted  an  external  electronic  ballast,  but  nobody  was  able  to  understand  what  I  meant.  I  hence  had  to  go  along  with  this.  I  do  need  fans  and  more  holes.  Any  more  suggestions?
 
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 Hi  Dolphy  ,
 
 Nothing  to  worry.  Just  take  out  the  fittings.  Then  mount  the  ballasts  on  the  outside  wall  of  your  hood's  back  panel  and  attach  the  starters  also  there  with  some  tapes  etc.  
 
 Go  to  any  electrical  shop  and  ask  for  tube  holders  that  can  be  fitted  on  a  wall.  That  holder  will  look  like  the  side  panel  of  your  bracket.  (Hope  you  understand    Smile  )
 
 Get  the  help  of  an  electrician  or  you  can  do  it  yourself  also.  Do  all  the  wirings  and  you  are  ready  to  go.  
 
 One  thing  must  -  Install  the  fan.  You  will  need  it.
 
 
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