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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Hi,  
 I  had  in  mind  for  last  4-5  months  to  keep  Oscars.  I  gathered  info  (fortunate  to  have  learned  friends  like  Hamza  in  Pune)  and  stepped  back  a  little  as  the  need  of  tank  size  was  quite  huge  and  I  was  not  sure  if  I  will  stick  around  in  Pune  due  to  work.
 Three  weeks  ago  as  I  settled  into  a  project  at  work  front,  thought  of  finally  taking  the  plunge.
 So  taking  a  lot  of  advice  from  Hamza  (toomanyfish)  and  Sachin  (Vijaya  Aquatics,  Viman  nagar)  I  ordered  48X21X21  tank  and  also  ordered  a  table  frame  to  be  made  by  fabricator.  Then  caught  hold  of  carpenter  as  I  wanted  a  aquarium  top  also.
 This  setup  would  hold  around  4-5  full  grown  Os  but  I  wanted  to  start  from  babies/mid-size  Os.
 In  between  Hamza  guided  me  to  a  shop  who  had  good  babies  of  Os  so  I  went  ahead  with  him  and  bought  a  pair  of  Copper  and  one  Mosaic  Oscars.
 Waiting  to  add  a  good  pair  of  Tiger  Os.
 As  my  setup  was  still  not  in  place  I  did  a  partition  in  current  setup  and  lodged  them  temporarily.
 On  24th  Sept  got  the  setup  and  after  cycling  for  a  day  (added  few  mugs  of  water  from  current  setups),  added  the  fishes  on  26th  Sept.
 
 Specs:
 Tank  -  48x21x21
 Filter  -  Internal  (Regent)  2200  lt/hr
 Heater  -  set  to  28  C
 Feed  -  Tetra  Bits,  Hikari  Gold  and  Prawns.  Atleast  feeding  6  times  a  day  on  rotation  basis.
 As  of  now  bare  bottom  and  no  background.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Here  are  few  problems  I  faced:
 1)  I  got  the  tank  top  made  where  around  6  inches  wide  of  top  plank  could  be  lifted  for  feeding  purpose  and  3"  of  border  which  will  cover  the  water  surface  boundary.  But  where  I  terribly  got  wrong  was  the  WEIGHT  of  this  thing  (I  had  gone  in  for  18  mm  ply).  After  making  it  we  realized  that  the  tank  might  crack  if  we  place  this  thing  on  top.  So  as  of  now  the  tank  cover  is  lying  below  my  bed.  Will  have  to  re-work  on  this.
 2)  One  of  the  Os  would  not  get  proper  feed  as  the  others  used  to  finish  in  jiffy.  So  as  of  today  two  have  grown  bigger  than  the  smaller  copper  oscar.
 
 Here  they  are  after  a  week  in  the  new  tank.  They  have  definitely  grown  by  an  inch.
 
 I  need  suggestions  for  the  tank  top,  please  pour  in  your  ideas.
 
 Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Hi  Amit
 
 Congrats  on  your  possession  of  these  little  beauties.  I  have  had  many  oscars  in  the  past  and  know  one  thing  for  sure  that  they  are  the  most  responsive  fish.  In  fact  they  are  called  aquatic  dogs  because  of  their  ability  to  connect  with  their  owners.
 
 Coppers  are  a  little  slow  compared  to  the  tigers  and  so  will  take  a  little  longer  to  catch  up  to  the  other  fish's  size.  Try  to  put  some  gravel  as  they  love  to  play  with  it  and  rearrange,   also  will  help  them  in  not  developing  bubble  eye.
 
 They  are  hearty  eaters  and  need  good  filtration.  If  you  can,  give  them  feeder  fish  once  in  a  while.  they  will  grow  big  in  no  time.
 
 All  the  best  with  them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Amit
 
 Try  to  put  some  gravel  as  they  love  to  play  with  it  and  rearrange,   also  will  help  them  in  not  developing  bubble  eye.
 
                 

 
 Oscars  dont  get  "bubble  eye"  When  water  quality  is  bad  the  eyes  get  clouded  due  to  infections  and  may  swell  up.
 
 Amit,
 
 Your  method  of  cycling  a  tank  is  not  correct.  but  since  the  Oscars  are  small  you  will  not  face  any  problems  as  such.  see  if  you  can  transfer  some  filter  media  to  the  new  filter  from  your  old  tanks.  Feeding  six  times  a  day  is  too  much.  Feed  them  2-3  times  a  day,  it  is  enough.  The  tank  size  is  small,  dont  get  anymore  oscars.  The  filtration  is  not  sufficient  for  adult  oscars.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Hi  amit,
 First  of  all  congrats  on  getting  those  beauties.  As  for  the  later  part,  I  too  agree  with  Preeths.  3  times  feeding  is  enough.  Try  to  feed  them  chicken  breast  +  prawn  (fresh  market  prawn)  mix.  They  just  love  meaty  food.  Also  perform  atleast  a  50%  water  change  twice  weekly.  Else,  all  the  very  best   Thumb Up,  they  will  grow  very  fast  and  will  greet  you  with  all  their  best.  You  will  feel  them  as  another  part  of  your  life   Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Thanks  Rahul,  Preeths  and  Kaushik  for  the  advice.
 
 What  do  we  feed  as  "feeder  fish"  for  these  babies?
 
 What  kind  of  tank  top  and  lighting  can  I  go  in  for??
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 Do  not  feed  feeder  fish.  try  shrimps  instead.  goldfish  is  all  garbage  and  no  nutrition.  besides  feeder  fish  carry  hell  lot  of  diseases  as  they  are  kept  pretty  badly  as  they  are  cheaper.  my  observation.
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 I  have  a  problem   Sad   The  small  copper  one  is  quite  lithargic  for  last  24  hrs  and  sitting  in  a  corner  of  the  tank  and  not  taking  food  today.
 I  did  a  detailed  inspection  and  did  not  find  any  spots  or  any  fin-rot  etc  but  yes  it  is  brething  heavily  as  compared  to  others.
 
 Any  guidance??
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  have  a  problem   Sad   The  small  copper  one  is  quite  lithargic  for  last  24  hrs  and  sitting  in  a  corner  of  the  tank  and  not  taking  food  today.
 I  did  a  detailed  inspection  and  did  not  find  any  spots  or  any  fin-rot  etc  but  yes  it  is  brething  heavily  as  compared  to  others.
 
 Any  guidance??                

 
 Make  a  50%  water  change  (de-chlorinated)  and  if  any  thermostrat  present,  raise  the  temp  to  28  deg  for  2-3  days.  He/She  will  become  active  as  before.  As  for  food,  try  to  prepare  chicken  heart  +  prawn  mix.  They  will  love  them.  All  the  very  best   Thumb Up
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 u  seem  to  be  doing  great  Thumb Up..just  keep  in  mind  one  thing..dont  put  any  tank  mates  which  can  fit  into  their  mouth  easily.i  recently  gave  away  my  pair  of  oscars  to  a  lfs  after  they  grew  too  big  for  my  tank..keep  us  updated..
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Here  are  few  problems  I  faced:
 1)  I  got  the  tank  top  made  where  around  6  inches  wide  of  top  plank  could  be  lifted  for  feeding  purpose  and  3"  of  border  which  will  cover  the  water  surface  boundary.  But  where  I  terribly  got  wrong  was  the  WEIGHT  of  this  thing  (I  had  gone  in  for  18  mm  ply).  After  making  it  we  realized  that  the  tank  might  crack  if  we  place  this  thing  on  top.  So  as  of  now  the  tank  cover  is  lying  below  my  bed.  Will  have  to  re-work  on  this.
 2)  One  of  the  Os  would  not  get  proper  feed  as  the  others  used  to  finish  in  jiffy.  So  as  of  today  two  have  grown  bigger  than  the  smaller  copper  oscar.
 
 Here  they  are  after  a  week  in  the  new  tank.  They  have  definitely  grown  by  an  inch.
 
 I  need  suggestions  for  the  tank  top,  please  pour  in  your  ideas.
 
 Thanks!                

 
 Is  it  possible  to  modify  the  setup  so  that  the  hood  rests  on  the  stand  rather  than  on  the  top  of  the  glass?
 One  possibility  is  adding  some  kind  of  corner  support  from  the  4  edges  of  the  stand  and  having  the  hood  rest  on  these  supports.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Hi  amit
 One  more  alternative  for  the  hood.
 You  can  use  a  couple  of  Anchor  Bolts  (easily  available  in  hardware  shops)  in  the  ceiling  and  suspend  the  hood  with  Chains  (  a  bit  heavy  ones).  Anchor  bolts  are  known  to  support  a  lot  of  weight  (including  human  swings).
 
 You  can  also  contron  the  swing  (if  you  are  afraid  of  )if  anyby  a  little  support/clipping  on  the  tank.
 Make  sure  there  is  not  too  much  gap  between  the  hodd  and  the  tank.  Oscars  are  known  to  jump.
 
 All  the  best  for  your  new  pets..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Thanks  Sudhir/Srinivas  for  the  ideas  on  the  hood  setup.  Let  me  check  which  is  easier  to  implement   Smile  
 Reg.  the  seems-to-be-sick  fish,  it  is  doing  better  now  and  roaming  around,  but  not  with  the  other  two.  Guess  there  has  been  some  kind  of  "ragging"   ROFL  which  has  taken  place.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Update  as  of  13/10/09
 
 The  smaller  Copper  is  doing  better  but  it  has  a  lost  a  lot  of  time  to  grow.
 
 Now  I  am  almost  done  with  the  setup  I  had  in  mind   Cheering  (apart  from  hood,  which  I  need  to  decide  upon)
 
 The  day  before,  finally  got  hold  of  similar  sized  Tiger  Oscars.  So  added  a  pair  and  this  is  the  set  that  I  want  to  grow  out:
 1)  Tiger  O  pair
 2)  Copper  (guess  will  keep  the  bigger  one  only)  
 3)  Mosaic  (one)
 
 Also  have  a  pair  of  fire-mouths  (you  may  see  them  on  the  gravel  in  the  attached  pix)  just  to  add  something  "unplanned"   Chuckle  
 Today  added  the  gravel  and  a  synthetic  background  I  had  bought  for  this  setup.  But  I  was  advised  that  once  the  Oscars  grow  bigger,  they  will  eat  it  out.  So  have  placed  it  from  outside  the  tank  instead  of  putting  it  inside.
 
 From  maintenance  perspective  doing  water  change  (60-70%)  almost  every  3  days.  
 
 Plan  to  add  Hikari  Bio-Gold  +  to  their  diet,  as  soon  as  I  get  my  hand  on  it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: My first attempt at Oscar Reply with quote

 Friends  ...  need  some  advice.
 
 The  tiger  Oscars  are  losing  their  black  color  slowly  and  turning  a  grey/brownish.  The  orange  spots  are  still  bright  and  wonderful.
 
 One  has  turned  grey  and  the  other  I  can  clearly  see  that  lower  part  is  still  black  but  upper  body  is  turning  dull.
 
 Is  it  natural?  I  know  they  tend  to  change  color/pattern  but  the  this  seems  to  be  too  much.
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