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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: Can i keep catfish with goldfish and koi ? Reply with quote

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 Can  i  keep  catfish  with  goldfish  and  koi  ?
 
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 it  really  depends  on  which  catfish  you  talking  about...
 Most  likely  most  catfish  get  too  big  and  fast  swimming  for  gold  fish....some  of  the  larger  ones  like  shovel  nose  and  red  tails  start  eating  gold  fish  by  swollowing  them  whole...  (my  18    inch  shovel  nose  ate  up  my  5.5  inch  green  terror    Surprised  )
 With  kois...well  i  think  it  should  work...in  case  you  keeping  larger  catfish  make  sure  that  the  kois  and  the  catfish  are  of  the  same  size..also  to  keep  shovel  nose  and  kois  together  you  would  need  a  really  large  tank...
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 Hi,
 
 I  will  get  pic  and  show  which  i  am  talking  about.  It  a  black  coloured  with  silver  stripes.  Got  a  pair  for  Rs.  40  they  are  about  3-4  inch.  big.
 
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 Tapan,
 
 If  you  are  planning  to  keep  the  catfishes  in  the  tank  that  is  put  up  in  your  picture  gallery,  my  two-penny  worth  of  advise  is  -  STOP.  There  just  isn't  enough  space  for  the  existing  fishes  to  grow.  I  have  seen  one  8"  common-pleco,  two  6"  kois  and  four  4"  goldfishes  in  my  cousin's  4ftx1.5ftx1.5ft  aquarium,  and  it  already  looks  pretty  crowded.......so  if  you  are  planning  to  go  ahead  and  buy  the  catfishes,  see  if  you  can  accomodate  them  in  a  separate  tank.
 
 Lastly,  an  ounce-worth  of  advise  (I  learnt  this  the  hard  way).......if  you  love  to  have  lots  of  fishes  in  your  tanks  -  go  for  livebearers.....add  a  few  easy  to  keep  cabombas  or  sword-plants.  Livebearers  are  colourful,  reproduce  at  prolific  rates......fast  fishes  that  are  fun  to  watch......and  easy  to  keep.
 
 Cheerios,
 
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 Hi,
 
 Here's  the  pic  of  cat  fish:
 
 
 
 Please  let  me  know.
 
 Thanks.
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 Tapan,  
 
 No  offence,  but  your  choice  of  fish  is  just  not  right  for  the  tank.  The  catfish  you  are  talking  about  is  commonly  called  the  silver  shark  and  grows  very  quickly.  It  is  also  very  skittish  and  over  time,  you  will  realise  that  it  has  outgrown  your  tank.  It  will  defy  all  space  contraints  and  quickly  grow  to  over  2.5  feet  and  more,  so  I  suggest  you  give  it  back.  
 
 Golfish  need  large  aquariums  or  ponds  because  they  can  not  only  get  big,  to  upto  a  feet  or  more,  yes  I  am  not  joking,  that's  how  big  they  can  get,  but  they  are  also  messy  eaters.  
 
 So  my  two  bits,  keep  some  nice  smaller  barbs  or  livebearers  for  the  top,  you  can  keep  a  full  school  of  lovely  colourful  fish,  that  will  reproduce  in  the  tank,  and  then  you  never  have  to  buy  other  fish.  
 
 For  the  bottom,  there  are  a  lot  of  smaller  cats  that  you  can  keep  in  your  tank,  or  some  pretty  looking  loaches  like  yoyos,  zebras  that  are  not  very  expensive  and  a  lot  of  fun  to  watch.  You  should  also  try  some  cories,  they  stay  less  than  3  inches  in  size,  love  to  live  in  schools,  so    you  can  keep  tons  of  them,  and  will  also  breed  easily.
 
   Thumb Up  and  happy  fish  keeping.
 
 I  would  go  with  the  earlier  advice  of  adding  some  plants  to  your  tank.
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The  catfish  you  are  talking  about  is  commonly  called  the  silver  shark  and  grows  very  quickly                

 Its  actually  an  Iridescent  Shark..
 Silver  shark  is  a  common  name  given  to  Bala  Shark..
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 Tapan,
 
 It  is  indeed  a  catfish  that  is  called  an  "irridescent  shark".  I  have  seen  two  6  inch  specimens  kept  in  a  pizza  delivery  shop  (in  a  2  feet  aquarium)  that's  located  in  Whitefield,  Bangalore.....the  condition  of  the  poor    fishes  isn't  something  that  you'd  want  to  see.
 
 Read  this:
 
 http://www.aquariacentral.com/articles/isharks.shtml
 
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The  catfish  you  are  talking  about  is  commonly  called  the  silver  shark  and  grows  very  quickly                

 Its  actually  an  Iridescent  Shark..
 Silver  shark  is  a  common  name  given  to  Bala  Shark..                

 
 Right.
 
 Tapan,  my  sincere  advice  to  you  -  Keep  away  from  this  fish.  When  mine  outgrew  my  tank  I  had  to  shift  it  to  a  well.  And  believe  me  they  grow  pretty  fast.  
 
 General  word  of  caution  :  Be  careful  while  handling/netting  this  fish.  They  have  a  nasty  barb  somewhere  along  their  pectoral  fins.
 
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 I  have  one  which  is  almost  18  inches  now  and  refuses  to  stop  growing!!!  Sad
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 Yup,  iridescent  shark  is  the  correct  term.  I  often  mix  up  the  two  sharks.  I  had  two  of  these  by  the  way,  who  wouldnt  stop  growing  and  then  would  fight  with  each  other.  It  got  bloody  ugly  and  I  had  to  give  both  away
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 Goldfish  &  KOI
 Although  there  are  many  type  of  goldfish,  they  can  be  braodly  divided  into  two  types,  fancy  &  common.
 Fancy  goldfish  are  Oranda,  Black  moor,  Bubble  eye,  loinheads,  pearlscale  etc.  these  fishs  are  mutants  of  original  golfdfish  and  have  abnormal  eyes,  fat  in  middle.  They  have  deformed  swimbladders  and  are  prone  to  swimbladder  problems,  are  slow  swimmers,  weak  eyesights  and  are  not  very  good  at  compteting  for  food.
 Common  are  comets,  shubunkin  ,  goldfish  with  single  tail,  double  tail,  veil  tail,etc.  koi  also  belong  to  same  family.  They  are  fast  and  aggressive  comptetiors  of  food.
 If  you  mix  them  fancy  goldfish,  they  will  always  have  a  upper  hand  in  feeding.  They  do  best  in  ponds  and  are  good  swimmers.
 Sharks
 The  catfish  in  your  picture  is  a  "tiger  shark"  belongs  to  panguasis  family,  grows  huge  3ft  -4ft.  It  is  a  somewhat  deepwater  river  fish,  is  extremly  skittish  and  hurts  itself  very  easily.  Their  growth  rate  becomes  a  problem.
 It  eats  like  a  lawn  mower.  However  it  is  extremly  hardy,  and  can  take  a  lot  of  punishment.
 I  have  all  these  fishes  but  in  seperate  tanks  &  they  are  not  less  than  50g  tanks.
 Be  prepared  to  give  them  a  biiger  home  as  they  grow  up.
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I  have  one  which  is  almost  18  inches  now  and  refuses  to  stop  growing!!!  Sad                

 
 They  would  grow  upto  three  feet.....  they  are  very  boisterous  and  they  would  hurt  other  fishes  when  they  are  moving  fast
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 The  catfish  in  your  picture  is  a  "tiger  shark"  belongs  to  panguasis  family,  grows  huge  3ft  -4ft.                

 
 Dear  Sandeep  
 Allow  me  to  make  a  small  correction    Smile    Its  Pangasius.  
 And  yes,  "Tiger  Shark"  is  its  trade  name.  Also,  according  to  a  guy  at  one  of  the  well-known  LFS  out  here,  this  fish  has  a  very  poor  eyesight,  and  that  is  the  reason  why  it  hurts  itself  so  easily  when  startled.
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 The  link  provided  by  Arup  Nandi  gives  a  good  reason  why  it  shouldn't  be  kept  in  the  aquarium...  poor  fish....  they  really  suffer  in  the  aquarium....  they  have  to  be  kept  in  shoals  and  requirds  a  20'  x  8'  tank  for  them  to  be  happy...
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