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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Hi  Friends  need  some  help  from  experts
 my  tarques  pair  is  bridding  after  every  seven  to  ten  days  but  after  three  days  all  the  egs  become  white  one  by  one  .
 
 my  tank  size  is  3  feet  X  1  feet  X  1.5  feet  (L  x  W  x  H).
 PH  is  in  betwwn  5.5  to  6.0
 Temp  28  Â°  c
 Nitrate  is  under  control
 But  i  can  not  able  to  measure  Kh  as  i  dont  have  any  instruments  or  reader  for  the  Kh  .
 water  from  normal  tab   eaching  for  four  days  or  more  .
 
 Please  give  suggession  for  avoiding  funges  on  egs  ,Also  how  to  soften  the  water  paramiters
 
 My  sanmiras  are  ok  now  but  i  lose  my  Orange  Mist  2.5"  size  with  no  resion.
 
 I  request  bridder  to  suggest  some  soution  for  my  bridding  pair
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Please  be  sure  first  that  its  Pair?  (  i  mean  to  say  some  times  two  females  behaving  like  pair).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 i  think  PASIFIC  is  already  telling  they  are  laying  eggs  which  is  turning  white  after  couple  of  days....i  can  also  see  eggs  in  the  PIC,
 
 Or  is  it  that  2  females  can  also  lay  eggs   Chuckle   Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Posibility  no.  2:  Infertile  male.
 
 Suggestion:  Try  and  increase  the  temp.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Ok  if  both  are  female  then  is  it  possiable  that  one  well  lay  eggs  while  other  well  make  run  after  her,
 
 if  yes  then  how  to  make  difference  ,
 
 because  the  same  said  male  also  last  time  make  pair  with  one  of  my  other  red  Turquoise  female  both  did  five  six  spawn
 but  the  red  turquoise  female  eat  eggs  .  hence  i  swapt  him  with  the  new  female  in  the  picture.
 
 But  if  u  say  that  both  may  be  female   how  can  it  be  possable?
 now  if  the  pair  is  right  then  give  suggession  for  saving  eggs  .
 yesterday  on  the  thire  day  only  five  or  six  eggs  are  turn  white  but  at  the  evening  both  of  the  discuss  eat  all  the  eggs.
 
 now  help  me  for  this  resion  ,  if  water  is  the  problame  how  could  i  soften  the  water,  
 
 please  solve  my  problame
 
 thank  you
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

                                                   
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 because  the  same  said  male  also  last  time  make  pair  with  one  of  my  other  red  Turquoise  female  both  did  five  six  spawn
 but  the  red  turquoise  female  eat  eggs  .  hence  i  swapt  him  with  the  new  female  in  the  picture.                  

 
 They  did  5-6  spawns??  Did  you  see  the  fry??  
 You  will  know  its  a  male  only  when  you  see  him...what  you  said...run...and  in  that  run  he  is  NOT  laying  eggs!
 
 No  water  quality  problem....you  DEFINATELY  do  not  want  to  soften  the  water!!  How  can  you  soften  water  that  is  already  softened!??  Any  more  softening  and  you'll  end  up  with  acid!
 
 Now  updated  suggestions:
 1)  Probably  infertile  male.
 2)  If  not,  then  you  could  a  give  a  try  to  artificially  raise  the  fry.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 looks  like  a  male(front)  and  a  female(guarding  the  eggs)  to  me  by  the  pic  but  cannott  be  sure  though...
 And  yes  2  females  can  lay  eggs  together..
 
 Do  not  increase  the  temp..
 
 The  possibility  is  that  the  male  is  infertile..
 
 And  to  control  fungus  u  can  try  by  dosing  methylene  blue  in  the  water..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 u  r  right  Mitul  the  female  garding  eggs  &  the  male  is  near  the  glass  (  front  ).
 as  per  u  r  consideration  if  both  may  be  female  then  why  only  one  female  is  laying  egges   and  second  one  near  the  glass  making  run  like  it  is  furtilizing  it,  the  same  case  happen  with  my  second  female  also  the  female  lays  eggs  and  this  same  male  make  run  on  the  eggs  .
 I  observed  it  closly  only  one  fish  is  laying  eggs  then  other  one  make  run  very  close  to  the  eggs,
 As  per   your  consideration  if  male  is  infurtal  
 please  guide  me  how  to  make  him  furtal  the  eggs  any  special  food  or  medication  ,
 
 with  my  first  female  i  found  one  wegal  trape  in  side  my  power  filter  spong  as  the  first  female  eats  eggs   that  time  this  eggs  might  follown  down  and  get  stuck  in  the  spong  i  made  him  free  but  after  two   three  minutes  the  female  sollow  that  also.  
 
 can  u  solved  this  mistry.   now  both  this  discuss  are  arround  one  and  half  year  old  arround  six  inch  size  bright  in  colour,  no  side  effect  .eat  good  food,  like  tetra,  dry  worm,  red  worm,  shrimp  ,mix  chicken  lever  food  .  
 but  why  on  third  day  they  are  eating  all  eggs  ,  
 
 please  tell  me  after  spawning   to  haching  how  the  colour  of  eggs  changes.
 
 in  my  bridding  on  day  first  the  eggs  are  little  yellow  ,  on  second  it;s  become  redish   some  become  white  ,  on  third  day  almost  all  are  brown  colour  and  then  eaten  by  pair.
 
 now  u  can  give  any  valuable  suggession  for  the  pair  .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Hi,  
 
 I  am  fully  agreed  with  Mitul.  
 
 1.  Male  is  infertile
 2.  Use  Methylene  Blue
 
 Why  you  want  soft  water.  Mumbai  water  is  best  for  discus,  nothing  need  to  mix  to  change  water  parameters  here.  
 
 If  all  eggs  turn  white  then  its  common  that  pair  eat  that  eggs.  If  you  feel  your  discus  eating  eggs  at  early  stage  then  cover  your  eggs  with  plastic  net.
 
 
                                                 
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Or  is  it  that  2  females  can  also  lay  eggs  Chuckle   Shocked                  

 
 Dear  Oscar-lover  we  are  talking  here  about  discus  fish  &  not  about  oscar  Chuckle


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 hi  Pasific,
 Try  to  cover  the  eggs  with  a  wire  mesh..and  see  if  the  eggs  hatch..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: Re: my discus bridding pair Reply with quote

 Hi  Pasific,
 Give  your  pair  a  liitle  bit  more  time.  Cover  the  eggs  with  a  wire  mesh  to  see  hatching  rate.  Methylene  blue  to  reduce  eggs  getting  fungus  if  your  tank  is  not  clean  and  good  aeration  close  to  eggs.  
 Suggest  you  try  breeding  them  without  using  the  sponge  filters  which  means  you  need  to  perform  frequent  water  change.
 rgds  rajan
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 Everybody  suggests  addition  of  methylene  blue  to  prevent  fungal  growth  on  eggs.
 But  then  what  about  the  filter??  Wont  it  damage  the  filter?
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 Sorry  double  post.
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