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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 Hey  marines!
 Can  someone  identify  this  acanthurus  sp.
 Have  got  him  from  our  Indian  ocean  and  is  currently  in  my  5ft  tank.
 
 I  just  couldn't  properly  identify  him,  confused  between  Acanthurus  nigrofuscus,  Acanthurus  dussumieri,Acanthurus  nigricans
 
 I  think,  i  THINK  its  Acanthurus  dussumieri
 
 
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 None  of  the  above,  IMO.  This  is  A.  xanthopterus.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

                                                   
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None  of  the  above,  IMO.  This  is  A.  xanthopterus.                

 I  agree
 @amod,
 shooting  pictures  with  actinic  light  cannot  help  in  positive  identification
 see  the  fish  here
 if  still  in  doubt  see  if  this  could  help
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

                                                   
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 shooting  pictures  with  actinic  light  cannot  help  in  positive  identification                  

 Hmm,  ya  actually  not  shot  in  'real'  actinic,  its  shot  in  azoo  coral  blue,  but  what  to  do,  either  this  or  the  other  light's  20K  blue  MH  bulb.
 Anyway,  it  might  be    A.  xanthopterus.    Not  yet  sure,  but  thanks  you  guys,  cause  i  did  not  even  consider  that  one.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 but  nauzer  i  guess  it's  Atlantic  blue  tang  -  Acanthurus  coeruleus  (Caribbean  Blue  Tang)   its  a  new  species.  just  few  days  back  i  made  my  wish  to  santa   for  atlantic  blue  tang  juvenile.   i   guess  i  might  get  it  soon.  Thumb Up     Smile  .  but  really  sorry  for  posting  live  links.  
 
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 http://www.marinedepotlive.com/atlantic-blue-tang---acanthurus-coeruleus-fish--tangs.html
 
 
 Atlantic  Blue  tang  Juvenile  
 
 http://www.marinedepotlive.com/atlantic-blue-juvenile--yellow-juvenile-coloration--tang---acanthurus-coeruleus-fish--tangs.html
 
 
   with  regards
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 @  codename
 Definately  not  a    Acanthurus  coeruleus  !  How  did  you  think  its  that  anyway?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 more  over  called   Caribbean  blue  tang  please  check.  Juvenile's  r  brite  yellow  in  color  later  on  will  turn  in  to  semi  dull  blue.  now  your  surgeon  is  neither  juvenile  r  adult  still  u  can  see  those  yellow  strains  in  your  surgeon  body.
 
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 First  of  all,  its  collected  in  India,  so  do  you  mean  to  say  it  swam  all  the  way  from  the  Caribbeans?  Rock On
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 Chuckle   ROFL  lol  ..  i  guess  fish's  doesn't  need  any  passport  r  visa  to  travel.  i  might  be  wrong  let  the  experts  comment.
 
                                                 with  regards
 
                                                      sampath


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 Although  it  is  not  unheard  of  for  fish  to  be  found  far  from  their  known  native  ranges,  this  fish  is  not  A.  coeruleus.  
 
 There  are  2  species  native  to  the  Indo-Pacific  with  a  characteristic  yellow  inter-orbital  (between  the  eyes)  stripe,  A.  dussumieri  and  A.  xanthopterus.  The  latter  is  characterised  by  (usually)  4  blue  stripes  on  yellow-brown  dorsal  and  anal  fins.  This  matches  the  fish  in  the  OP.
 
 A.  dussumieri  also  tends  to  have  a  yellow  band  on  the  caudal  peduncle,  which  the  fish  in  question  does  not  have.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

                                                   
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more  over  called  Â Caribbean  blue  tang  please  check.  Juvenile's  r  brite  yellow  in  color  later  on  will  turn  in  to  semi  dull  blue.  now  your  surgeon  is  neither  juvenile  r  adult  still  u  can  see  those  yellow  strains  in  your  surgeon  body.
 with  regard  sampath                

 Sampath  you  miss  it  by  a  mile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 Checked  out  this  post  just  too  late.  It  is  a  semi  adult  A.  nigroris.  Amod,  kindly  confess  that  the  tail  is  white  and  indeed  it  should  be  nigroris.  It  will  get  darker  as  it  grows.  White  tail  in  an  adult  fish  would  mean  that  it  is  stressed  or  in  agressive  mood.
 
 Both  xanthopterus  and  Dussumier's  surgeon  have  a  very  prominent  yellowish  marking  on  the  eye.  Colours  of  Amod's  fish  are  only  temporary  until  it  grows.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Checked  out  this  post  just  too  late.  It  is  a  semi  adult  A.  nigroris.  Amod,  kindly  confess  that  the  tail  is  white  and  indeed  it  should  be  nigroris.  It  will  get  darker  as  it  grows.  White  tail  in  an  adult  fish  would  mean  that  it  is  stressed  or  in  agressive  mood.
 
 Both  xanthopterus  and  Dussumier's  surgeon  have  a  very  prominent  yellowish  marking  on  the  eye.  Colours  of  Amod's  fish  are  only  temporary  until  it  grows.                

 
 Negative.  A.  nigroris  has  black  spots  at  the  base  of  both  dorsal  and  anal  fins  on  the  caudal  peduncle.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Indian Ocean Surgeon identification. Reply with quote

 The  only  common  darker  surgeons  often  available  in  our  gulf  are  A.  nigrofuscus  and  nigroris,  sold  as  brown  tang  and  black  tang  respectively.  It  being  xantoperus  is  remote,  as  am  sure  about  its  adult  coloration,  as  the  name  obviously  means  yellow  eye  (Xantho  +  Opto).  Also  the  tail  of  the  one  in  pic  above  seems  not  to  be  blue,  under  normal  light.  He  seems  to  have  put  on  a  blue  spectrum.  Else  nigrofuscus  is  the  only  possibility.  
 
 Will  try  to  acquire  both  the  species  for  a  visual  comparison.  I  could  be  wrong,  as  i  always  thought  Spot  Cheek  Surgeon  is  A.  nigroris.
 
 Amod,  kindly  post  a  pic  under  white  light  pls.
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 Amod,  kindly  post  a  pic  under  white  light  pls.                  

 
 Will  do  so  in  a  day  or  two.
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