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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 I  have  a  200  lts(56  US  gallons  apporx.)  planted  tank  with  a  canister  filter  working  24  hrs  and  an  internal  power  filter  also  working  24  hrs.  Water  chages  is  also  done  regularly  and  religiously  once  a  week  say  25-40%  with  gravel  siphoning  but  still  I  fail  to  achieve  that  crystal  clear  look  of  the  planted  aquarium  water.The  mediums  used  in  the  external  canister  filter  is  peat  moss  as  i  have  lot  of  different  varities  of  tetras,then  is  the  zeolite  for  extra  nitrates  and  ammonia  rocks  for  ammonia  and  nitrites,  and  the  ceramic  rings  for  bacteria  with  sponge  filter  mediuim  on  top  most  layer.Both  the  filters  are  also  regularly  cleaned.Feeding  is  also  done  twice  a  day  not  too  much  not  too  less.
 Can  anybody  help  me  with  it?Do  I  need  to  add  anything  to  make  the  water  crystal  clear?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Try  using  some  glass  wool  on  the  final  stage  of  your  canister  filter.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Sorry  I  forgot  to  mention  I  have  the  glass  wool  layer  too  in  my  canister  filter.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

                                                   
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zeolite  for  extra  nitrates  and  ammonia  rocks  for  ammonia  and  nitrites                

 
 food  for  the  bacteria  are  ammonia  and  nitrite,how  will  bacteria  grow  in  your  ceramic  rings  when  you  have  zeolite  and  ammonai  rocks?
 
 In  a  properly  cycled  aquarium  you  dont  need  these  IME.  I  dont  know  how  you  can  remove  these  safely  now  since  your  tank  will  go  through  the  cycling  process.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  Rahul.
 
 To  answer  your  question,  add  activated  carbon  to  your  canister  filter  or  run  a  Hang  On  Back  Filter  with  a  bag  of  Activated  Carbon.  Your  water  should  look  better  in  24  hours.  Replace  the  carbon  every  45-50  days.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Wow  -  Just  had  the  same  question  on  my  mind.  
 
 Suraj-  I  have  a  Eheim  2217  running  in  my  planted  tank.  I  too  find  lot  of  particles  suspended  in  the  water  column  although  not  very  bad.  I  remember  reading  some  post  that  activated  carbon  absorbs  all  the  dosing  done  and  hence  makes  the  dosing  useless.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  Rahul,  One  more  precautions,  always  use  Activated  Carbon  packed  in  a  fine  plastic  nets  and  not  directly  in  your  external  filter  and  replace  it  after  3  months  periodically.You  may  use  cloud  water  remover  made  by  Rid  All  to  but  I  will  suggest  you  to  go  for  natural  process  which  may  take  some  time  to  stable.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Hi  Prem,
 
 I  used  a  HOB  with  a  bag  of  AC  for  about  45-50  days  on  my  planted  tank  during  the  initial  months.  My  dosing  regime  never  changed  and  I  think  that  the  damage  done  to  your  fertilization  is  minimal  when  compared  to  the  positive  effects  of  Activated  Carbon.
 
 As  a  precautionary  measure,  always  rinse  your  carbon  bag  (netted  bag)  with  water  to  remove  loose  carbon  dust  and  then  add  it  to  your  filtration  after  the  residual  colour  (blackness)  reduces.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Hi  Dheev
 
                                                 
Dheev  wrote  (View  Post):                
Zeolite  for  extra  nitrates  and  ammonia  rocks  for  ammonia  and  nitrites...
 Both  the  filters  are  also  regularly  cleaned.                  

 
 I  don’t  think,  for  fish  such  as  tetras,  you  need  media  such  as  Zeolite  &  Ammonia  rock.  How  many  fishes  do  you  have  in  there?  
 
 
                                                 
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 I  have  a  200  lts(56  US  gallons  apporx.)  planted  tank  with  a  canister  filter  working  24  hrs  and  an  internal  power  filter  also  working  24  hrs.                

 
 Again,  two  filters,  not  really  required.  An  external  filter  able  to  take  in  these  many  options  has  to  be  moderately  sized  &  I  doubt  that  it’s  not  capable  of  handling  the  existing  load.  200Ltrs.  isn’t  a  large  volume;  to  have  2  filters  on  the  above  setup  is  calling  for  some  attention  to  basics.
 
 Do  away  with  the  internal  filter  (move  out  of  the  aquarium)  &  observe  for  a  fortnight.  For  all  you  know  the  water  might  be  bypassing  the  media  &  the  sucked  muck  further  gets  broken  down  to  finer  particles.  I  would  not  rule  out  the  possibility  of  excess  turbulence  causing  settled  particles  to  rise-up.
 
 Do  mention  the  Filter  capacity.HTH's  resolve  the  issue.

   
 
                                                 
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 I  remember  reading  some  post  that  activated  carbon  absorbs  all  the  dosing  done  and  hence  makes  the  dosing  useless.                

 
 Hi  Prem,
 
 Activated  Cabon  Adsorbs,  chemically  bonds  with  the  impurity.  From  what  I  know,  it  will  adsorb  certain  impurities  while  ignoring  others.  However,  I'm  not  sure  as  to  what  those  could  be  in  the  PMDD  Dosing  context,  but  yes  this  is  likely  to  cause  imbalance  in  the  nutrient  level.  It’s  best  avoided  during  normal  course  of  water  filtration.  It’s  beneficial  when  removing  medications  from  the  column  w/o  having  to  do  water  changes.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 HI  Dheev,
 
 Is  the  problem  with  color  of  the  water  or  suspended  particles  in  the  water?  Since  you  are  using  peat,  the  water  will  be  discolored.  
 
 If  there  are  lots  of  suspended  particles,  try  what  Deepak  had  suggested.  
 
 If  you  still  have  the  same  problem,  try  to  place  the  internal  power  filter  on  the  opposite  end  of  the  inlet  of  canister  filter  and  make  the  water  output  from  the  internal  filter  flow  towards  the  inlet  of  the  canister  filter.  This  will  also  create  a  lot  of  current  towards  the  inlet  of  canister  filter.
 
 Clean  the  glass  frequently,  sometimes  the  water  will  look  cloudy  when  algae  and  other  fine  particles  is  sticking  to  the  walls  of  the  tank,  even  though  the  water  is  clear.
 
 Also,  before  you  do  the  gravel  siphoning,  switch  off  the  filters  for  around  15  minutes,  so  that  the  particles  get  settled  to  the  bottom.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: how to achieve crystal clear water in a planted tank? Reply with quote

 Thank  you  everybody  but  I  think  I  should  go  with  veera  bcos  as  she  says  the  problem  is  not  with  suspended  particles  or  cloudy  water  but  its  with  the  colour  and  might  be  its  due  to  the  peat  moss  inside  the  filter  and  also  changing  the  position  of  the  internal  filters  sounds  right  to  direct  the  current  towards  the  inlet  of  the  cannister  filter,  whereas  right  now  its  near  the  inlet  of  the  external  filter.
 Shall  try  it  out  for  a  fortnight  and  se  the  results.
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