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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

 Can  any  one  give  me  the  name  of  the  substrate  that  is  best  suited  for  Aquatic  plants?  I  too  have  a  sand  substrate  from  a  river  basin.  only  1  plant  rooted  and  it's  not  going  well.  Please  let  me  know  other  type  of  soil  to  use.  If  possible  Name  them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

 Also...
 Run  a  magnet  in  the  sand  and  see  if  it  sticks.  If  it  doesn't  then  the  Iron  content  is  too  low  or  not  present.  
 There  is  another  type  of  river  sand  which  when  rinsed  is  brownish.  
 This  is  available  in  construction  shops  and  is  high  in  Iron  content.  Can  be  used  for  Aquariums
 Ive  tested  both  the  Gujarat  sand  and  the  brown  river  sand  with  a  magnet  and  the  Brown  River  Sand.  Wins.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Irrespective  of  Sea  Sand  or  River  sand,  plants  will  not  do  well  in  Sand.  Sand  is  too  fine  for  the  roots  to  penetrate  easily   and  they  block  flow  of  water  (  oxygen  )  properly  to  the  roots.
   Most  of  your  plants'  root  will  rot  and  the  plant  will  perish  slowly.  
 You  need  to  ensure  that  the  granules  are  at  least  2-3  mm  in  size.  Sieveing  it  to  get  only  the  desired  size  may  be  a  good  idea.
 
 Prabhu                

 
 I  am  currently  using  construction  sand  in  my  new  planted  aquarium  and  I  must  say  that  I  am  very  pleased  with  the  results.  The  sand  does  have  a  significant  calcium  content,  but  I  have  got  good  results  in  a  small  scale  using  citric  acid  drops  as  a  buffer.  Please  note  I  have  not  used  citric  acid  in  the  main  tank,  but  I  did  it  under  controlled  conditions.
 
 Coming  back  t  my  main  tank,  the  results  are  good.
 
 However  I  have  to  agree  with  the  others......WASHING  IS  ABSOLOUTELY  VITAL.  I  got  it  done  the  easier  way.  I  got  one  of  the  construction  workers  to  wash  it  for  me  for  Rs  100.   Clapping  Even  then  I  had  to  still  wash  the  bloody  thing  mug  by  mug  till  the  supernatant  water  was  absolutely  clear.  Back  breaking  excercise.  I  had  to  wash  nearly  3  big  sacks  for  my  4.5x2x2.  Lost  5  kilos.   Crying or Very sad  
 
 The  final  point  is  that  Nature  WILL  do  its  best  to  survive  in  any  condition.  Just  get  the  water  conditions  right,  maintain  good  nutrient  levels,  go  for  CO2,  plenty  of  light  and  a  ton  of  prayer  and  things  should  be  fine.  It  will  definitely  make  you  wise.
 
 Wisdom  =  Experience  +  Knowledge.
 
 I  want  to  encourage  you  in  this.  Please  see  the  attached  pictures.
 
 OH  BY  THE  WAY.....  do  take  a  half  glass  of  the  sand  in  a  glass,  add  water  till  the  top  of  the  glass  and  stir  well.  let  it  settle  and  then  taste  a  bit  of  it  on  your  tongue.  (dont  swallow).  If  its  salty  dont  use  it.   Drinking  
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/f6xLe__CLDBDtT0dsDQ51U4sMKNl1dBXhjpF4jC4uIM?feat=directlink
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iEkT8ETIzPjK8iNzw4wyUE4sMKNl1dBXhjpF4jC4uIM?feat=directlink
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/68QKEv17qAYwojXnN01SgU4sMKNl1dBXhjpF4jC4uIM?feat=directlink                

 
 Sirf  Ek  chamach  hi  peena.   ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Also...
 Run  a  magnet  in  the  sand  and  see  if  it  sticks.  If  it  doesn't  then  the  Iron  content  is  too  low  or  not  present.  
 There  is  another  type  of  river  sand  which  when  rinsed  is  brownish.  
 This  is  available  in  construction  shops  and  is  high  in  Iron  content.  Can  be  used  for  Aquariums
 Ive  tested  both  the  Gujarat  sand  and  the  brown  river  sand  with  a  magnet  and  the  Brown  River  Sand.  Wins.
 Cheers
 Pio                

 
 Do  you  any  links  for  this.
 i  don't  think  the  iron  in  organic  form  will  get  attracted  by  magnet
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

 OK......from  the  disscussion  it  seems  the  fine  construction  sand  is  not  a  good  choice,
 
 I  am  getting  used  Golden  sand  2-3mm  particles  (which  used  to  be  available  earlier)  from  a  friend..
 So  shall  I  use  it  or  go  in  for  river  sand  (brown-  red  colour  availabe  in  Aquanature-  Borivali)
 
 
 
 Need  to  decide  between  the  two...........  Help
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

                                                   
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OK......from  the  disscussion  it  seems  the  fine  construction  sand  is  not  a  good  choice,
 
 I  am  getting  used  Golden  sand  2-3mm  particles  (which  used  to  be  available  earlier)  from  a  friend..
 So  shall  I  use  it  or  go  in  for  river  sand  (brown-  red  colour  availabe  in  Aquanature-  Borivali)
 
 
 
 Need  to  decide  between  the  two...........  Help                

 
 You  are  confusing  the  point...  Jester
 The  construction  sand  is  one  of  the  many  kinds  of  river  sand..  so  you  can  use  it  as  top  layer.
 Golden  sand  is  no  different  from  the  construction  sand,  except  it  has  smooth  texture..  Knock
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OK......from  the  disscussion  it  seems  the  fine  construction  sand  is  not  a  good  choice,
 
 I  am  getting  used  Golden  sand  2-3mm  particles  (which  used  to  be  available  earlier)  from  a  friend..
 So  shall  I  use  it  or  go  in  for  river  sand  (brown-  red  colour  availabe  in  Aquanature-  Borivali)
 
 
 
 Need  to  decide  between  the  two...........  Help                

 
 You  are  confusing  the  point...  Jester
 The  construction  sand  is  one  of  the  many  kinds  of  river  sand..  so  you  can  use  it  as  top  layer.
 Golden  sand  is  no  different  from  the  construction  sand,  except  it  has  smooth  texture..  Knock                

 
 Nidhi........the  earlier  sand  I  showed  in  Pics  is  very  fine  and  the  golden  sand  that  I  am  talking  about  is  2-3mm  granuled......
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Can I use this sand as planted substrate? Reply with quote

 Anil,  
 The  normal  process  of  using  river  sand  is  we  sieve  it  as  per  our  requirements,  as  you  said  2-3  mm.
 And  for  your  info,  the  golden  sand  also  needs  to  sieved.  because  the  LFS  guys  don't  do  it  for  you.
 ask  your  friend  if  he  has  sieved  it  or  not,  because  normally  any  sand  will  grade  itself  after  some  time.  Like  the  finer  particles  will  start  to  sink  down,  leaving  the  bigger  granules  on  top.  which  is  what  I  believe,  you  have  seen  and  think  it  is  graded  as  2-3  mm.
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 Thanks  Nidhi.
 
 seems  your  are  clearing  my  most  of  the  doubts......
 so  now  how  do  I  sieve  the  sand?  if  at  all  I  have  to  do  it  myself.
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