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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Atman filters Reply with quote

                                                   
nitshi  wrote  (View  Post):                
Am  also  worried  that  this  eheim  2078  which  is  electronised,  hope  it  does  not  mal  function,  as  you  see  electronics  can  never  be  said,  they  are  there  today  and  not  tomo.However  the  seller  assured  me  thet  its  very  reliable.                

 
 
 I’ve  dealt  with  both  Pro  3e  models  -  2076  &  2078;  they  have  been  running  fine  for  the  past  18months.  Having  said  that,  something  can  go  wrong  as  soon  as  the  voltage  reaches  a  point  that  the  filter  electronics  cannot  handle.  So  what  the  seller  said  was  correct  w.r.t  that  you  take  care  of  the  safe  input  voltage.
 
 Everything  has  a  safe  operating  voltage;  any  product  that  incorporates  safety  measures  absorbing  third  party  faults  will  be  expensive.  Most  manufactures  refrain  from  doing  so  as  it  adds  on  their  cost  &  makes  their  product  look  more  expensive.  Some  incorporate  this  feature  to  an  extent,  as  in  the  case  of  Eheim  Pro  3e,  it  comes  with  An  External  SMPS  based  DC  power  supply.  So  that’s  good  to  absorb  some  surge  &  fluctuations.  I’ve  personally  not  used  one  â€“  but  I  think  it  should  be  intelligent  enough  to  switch  off  in  low  voltage  condition  or  have  some  sought  of  protection  â€“  need  to  test.
 
 Pro3e  is  nice  to  have  with  all  those  add  on  functions,  but  those  functions  won’t  be  of  much  use  on  a  aquarium  which  is  4  times  bigger  than  it’s  recommended  capacity.  I  would  have  recommended  /  opted  for  a  classic  model  instead.  Where  I  get  the  following  advantages:
 
 Twice  as  large  media  capacity  (gives  more  media  options  &  longer  cleaning  cycles)
 Higher  flow  rate  â€“  ensures  better  turn  around  time.
 Cost  10%  less  â€“  this  saving  can  buy  me  some  media.
 Drain  pipe  â€“  Easy  to  carry  once  water  is  emptied  &  to  some  extent  partial  reverse  flushing  further  increases  service  period.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Atman filters Reply with quote

                                                   
unninga  wrote  (View  Post):                
For  running  the  filter  alone  wouldn't  an  online  /  line  interactive  UPS  of  smaller  capacity  suffice?                  
 
 
 Hi  Unnikrinan,
 
 Going  by  theory,  on  a  650VA  pure  sine  wave  UPS  I  can  drive  a  2217  for  ~3hrs.  (18W).  As  Madan  pointed  out,  I  wouldn't  bother  either  unless  I'm  over  stocking.
 
 It's  wise  to  invest  in  a  Servo  Stabilizer  &  have  protection  for  all  the  aquarium  equipment  &  not  the  filter  alone.  I  would  opt  for  CVT(Contant  voltage  Transformer)  if  budget  permits.  
 
 At  present  I'm  not  using  any  protection;  working  on  something.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Atman filters Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Hi  Sumant,
 
 I  don’t  see  any  issue  is  keeping  a  7000lph  or  even  15000lph  pump  ON  for  24x7.  If  it  is  meant  for  biological  filtration  it  has  to  be  on  always.
 
 I  completely  understand  power  outages  are  likely  &  that’s  something  not  in  our  control,  but  if  you  wish  to  have  100%  uptime,  opt  for  an  inverter.
               

 
 Deepak,
 You  are  absolutely  right.  But  I  was  talking  about  a  regular  water  pump.  I  don't  think  you  can  keep  a  regular  water  pump  on  24x7.  Aquarium  pumps-  YES,  but  a  regular  water  pump  would  go  kaput  if  kept  on  24x7.  Im  not  sure  about  it  but  I  use  one  (.75  HP)  for  changing  the  water  of  my  100G  tank  and  it  gets  quite  hot  in  20mins  of  running.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Atman filters Reply with quote

                                                   
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Im  not  sure  about  it  but  I  use  one  (.75  HP)  for  changing  the  water  of  my  100G  tank  and  it  gets  quite  hot  in  20mins  of  running.                

 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Atman filters Reply with quote

 Will  do  that.  Which  means  that  regular  water  pumps  CAN  be  kept  on  for  hours.  
 Thanks  Madan.
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