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Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

                                                   
vyastk  wrote  (View  Post):                

 I  just  got  off  the  phone  with  another  aquarist  and  were  discussing  this  topic...he  had  a  simply  way  to  distinguish  these  fishes.....The  price
 Tank  raised  fishes  -  Rs  X
 Wild  Caught  Fishes  Rs  4*X..(With  4  being  a  average  multiplier  )
 Simple!  Smile
                 

 
 We  as  hobbyists  should  have  8  X  Times  the  intelligence  or  can  get  exploited  easily.
 
 Buying  from  a  reputed  seller  /  dealer  helps  though.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

                                                   
vyastk  wrote  (View  Post):                
I  just  got  off  the  phone  with  another  aquarist  and  were  discussing  this  topic...he  had  a  simply  way  to  distinguish  these  fishes.....The  price
 
 Tank  raised  fishes  -  Rs  X
 
 Wild  Caught  Fishes  Rs  4*X..(With  4  being  a  average  multiplier  )
 
 Simple!  Smile                

 
 Thats  bad  logic  I  must  say!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

                                                   
vyastk  wrote  (View  Post):                
I  just  got  off  the  phone  with  another  aquarist  and  were  discussing  this  topic...he  had  a  simply  way  to  distinguish  these  fishes.....The  price
 
 Tank  raised  fishes  -  Rs  X
 
 Wild  Caught  Fishes  Rs  4*X..(With  4  being  a  average  multiplier  )
 
 Simple!  Smile                

 
 Could  you  ask  him  to  call  me,  please?  I  have  some  "above  average"  "wild"  guppies  for  sale   Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 As  Rahul  mentioned,  it  is  not  possible  to  distinguish  between  the  two.
 
 The  fish  do  not  undergo  long  term  physical  changes  once  they  are  in  the  tank  neither  do  their  offspring  show  different  physical  characteristics.
 
 Of  course,  fear  of  the  hand  that  feeds  them  is  usually  far  lesser  in  the  tank  bred  and  most  of  them  are  easier  to  convert  to  dry  food  (IME)
 
 Cost  wise  -  its  simple  economics,  wild  fish  need  to  be  transported  alive  from  the  point  of  collection  to  the  point  of  sale  -  the  expense  and  mortality  will  be  much  more  than  moving  fish  from  a  tank  in  a  breeders  room  to  retail  stores.  Other  factors  will  also  play  a  role  as  in  general  availability  of  the  species  in  the  trade  in  the  particular  location  and  the  desirability  of  the  fish.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 @Rahul  :  You  just  have  to  make  a  WTS  :  Wild  guppies..in  the  forum  Smile
 
 @  Venkat  :Thanks,  understand  the  logistical  Issues  and  the  reasons  why  they  are  priced  higher
 
 @  Beta  :  you  mean  the  multiplier  should  be  greater   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_tetra
 
 Gives  a  statement  that  "However,  many  breeders  are  now  producing  the  fish;  in  most  cases  one  can  determine  if  the  cardinal  tetra  is  bred  or  wild  caught  due  to  damaged  fins  on  wild  caught  specimens."
 
 However  Its  difficult  to  confirm  if  this  is  fact  or  the  author's  own  contribution  to  the  science  of  fish  keeping  {This  is  probably  the  main  drawback  of  any  Wikipedia  article}.  Neither  of  the  two  references  nor  any  of  the  four  external  links  in  the  article  supports  this  statement.
 
 Hitting  search  on  Google  for  Cardinal  Tetra  will  bring  up  this  page  within  the  first  few  results,  It  might  be  worthwhile  suggesting  a  correction
 
 I  hope  the  mods/admins  wont  pull  me  up  for  quoting  a  single  line  from  Wikipedia  Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 That  is  correct.  For  a  long  time,  it  was  far  cheaper  to  import  cardinal  tetras  from  the  wild  than  tank  raise  them.  Recently  breeders,  in  the  Czech  republic  in  particular,  have  improved  husbandry  methods  to  the  extent  where  they  can  produce  fish  at  about  the  same  price  as  wild  caught  fish.
 
 The  torn  fin  comment  is  harder  to  substantiate.  It  depends  on  a  number  of  factors.  However,  you  do  find  contaminant  tetras  mixed  in  with  wild  cardinals  that  you  never  see  with  tank  raised  ones  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 Very  interesting...Wild  caughts  are  cheaper  than  tank  raised!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 In  most  cases,  yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

 Vyas:  Depends  on  whether  it  is  cheaper  to  breed  or  catch.  That  will  determine  which  is  cheaper.  I'm  sure  captive  bred  Dwarf  Gourami  will  be  more  expensive  than  WC  ones  at  this  point  but  if  wild  stock  runs  out  then  it  would  be  the  opposite.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Wild Caught vs Tank Raised - Difference Reply with quote

                                                   
Kaushik  wrote  (View  Post):                
Watching  the  post  I  came  to  the  conclusion  that  both  Wild  and  Tank  raised  have  their  own  Pros  and  Cons.                

 
 True.  
 
 Too  late  to  pitch  in  my  views,  but  most  of  the  major  aspects  have  been  answered  here.
 
 Having  been  into  both  the  sourcing  side  and  the  demand  side  (  as  a  fish  keeper  ),  as  Beta  and  Rahul  say,  all  depends  on  the  fish  and  the  trade  gimmicks  for  the  wild  /  commercial  cost  factor.  For  instance,  I  happened  to  get  a  few  possibly  undescribed  Pseudochromis  sp,  not  very  far  away  from  Chennai.  Having  said  the  source  being  very  near,  I  could  have  well  sold  at  a  tag  close  to  lower  3  digits.  But  the  trade  name  Pseudochromis  sp  'Sunset',  'offered'  me  a  booty  of  close  to  4  digit  figure.   Very Happy  
 
 In  most  cases,  it  is  the  trade  game  that  decides  the  price  and  we  as  hobbyists,  often  ignore  the  price  tag  when  we  find  a  fish  too  tempting  to  buy.
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