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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 Hi  all  me  again,  after  much  thinking  i  have  decided  to  just  improve  my  planted  tank  than  switch  over  to  marine.  Well  mine  is  just  a  desert  right  now.  
 here  is  the  photo  
 
 Here  are  my  specs:
 1.  Tank  -  30  *  18  *  18  inches
 2.  Filter  -  Boyu  internal  filter  
 3.  Co2  -  DIY  sugar  and  yeast  mixture.
 4.  Diffuser  -  did  this  from  youtube  video  very  simple.  Here  is  the  link
 [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg7fleqhM9w]diffuser

 5.  Substrate  -  2  inches  of  clay  soil  covered  buy  "kappi"
 6.  Plants  -  tried  many  types  all  died  except  for  Vallisneria  they  look  like  cactus  in  the  desert.
 7.  Fishes  -  one  pair  of  gold
 8.  Lighting  -  two  2  feet  fluorescent  tubes.
 
 I  am  going  to  keep  only  one  pair  of  gold  and  sae(here's  the  link  http://www.petfish.net/articles/Catfish_And_Loaches/sae.php).  I  tried  keeping  a  red-fin  shark  (clown  shark)  to  eat  all  the  algae  and  it  did  a  marvelous  job  of  keeping  the  tank  clean  of  algae,  verdict  1  red  fin  shark  =  an  army  of  algae  eating  shrimps.  But  as  we  all  know  it  is  very  territorial  and  keeps  chasing  the  gold  so  i  had  to  introduce  the  fighter  to  keep  it  busy.  I  only  heard  about  sae's  recently  and  seems  like  they  do  a  better  job  and  DON't  chase  the  gold's.  But  unable  to  get  them.  I  don't  like  sucker  fish  because  it  sucks  to  the  glass.  
 
 Now  i  need  help  with  the  following:
 
 1.  Substrate  -  where  can  i  get  a  good  one  in  chennai  and  the  cost.  Is  it  alright  to  cover  it  with  kappi.
 2.  Fish  -  where  to  get  sae's
 3.  Plants  -  what  are  the  local  names  of  carpet  plant's  and  where  to  get  them.The  rest  i  can  get  at  my  local  fish  store.
 
 Thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  all  me  again,  after  much  thinking  i  have  decided  to  just  improve  my  planted  tank  than  switch  over  to  marine.  Well  mine  is  just  a  desert  right  now.  
 
 Here  are  my  specs:
 1.  Tank  -  30  *  18  *  18  inches
 2.  Filter  -  Boyu  internal  filter  
 3.  Co2  -  DIY  sugar  and  salt  mixture.
 4.  Diffuser  -  did  this  from  youtube  video  very  simple.  Here  is  the  link
 diffuser
 5.  Substrate  -  2  inches  of  clay  soil  covered  buy  "kappi"
 6.  Plants  -  tried  many  types  all  died  except  for  Vallisneria  they  look  like  cactus  in  the  desert.
 7.  Fishes  -  one  pair  of  gold
 8.  Lighting  -  two  2  feet  fluorescent  tubes.
 
 I  am  going  to  keep  only  one  pair  of  gold  and  sae(here's  the  link  http://www.petfish.net/articles/Catfish_And_Loaches/sae.php).  I  tried  keeping  a  red-fin  shark  (clown  shark)  to  eat  all  the  algae  and  it  did  a  marvelous  job  of  keeping  the  tank  clean  of  algae,  verdict  1  red  fin  shark  =  an  army  of  algae  eating  shrimps.  But  as  we  all  know  it  is  very  territorial  and  keeps  chasing  the  gold  so  i  had  to  introduce  the  fighter  to  keep  it  busy.  I  only  heard  about  sae's  recently  and  seems  like  they  do  a  better  job  and  DON't  chase  the  gold's.  But  unable  to  get  them.  I  don't  like  sucker  fish  because  it  sucks  to  the  glass.  
 
 Now  i  need  help  with  the  following:
 
 1.  Substrate  -  where  can  i  get  a  good  one  in  chennai  and  the  cost.  Is  it  alright  to  cover  it  with  kappi.
 2.  Fish  -  where  to  get  sae's
 3.  Plants  -  what  are  the  local  names  of  carpet  plant's  and  where  to  get  them.The  rest  i  can  get  at  my  local  fish  store.
 
 Thanks                

 
 Mixing  ┬áthe  sugar  with  salt  you  never  get  Co2.  using  yeast  and  sugar  only  gives  you  co2  Very Happy  ....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

                                                   
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 7.  Fishes  -  one  pair  of  gold
                 

 
 Goldfish???
 If  yes,  think  again  Buddy.  Knock
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 Buddy  -  Looks  like  you  need  a  lot  of  reading  up  to  do  on  planted  aquariums,  go  through  the  Forums  "Aquatic  Plants  and  Planted  Aquaria"  and  "Aquascaping"  ....  a  lot  of  your  basics  on  planted  aquariums  will  be  set  right.  ....  things  like  lighting,  substrate,  plants  etc
 
 Here  is  one  tip  for  starters  .....  Gold  fish  are  not  meant  for  planted  aquariums.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  Seetharam.you  need  to  know  things  a  litle  bit  before  you  start  with  your  planted  aquarium.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 raindeepak4u  
 
 I  feel  so  embarrassed  with  that  have  changed  it.
 
 and  yes  i  know  goldfish  will  uproot  the  plants  and  eat  the  leaves  but  i  still  liked  it.  I  left  the  tank  to  mature  for  4  weeks  before  i  introduced  baby  goldfish  to  it.  I  have  posted  a  picture  of  the  present  state  of  the  tank.I  know  it  is  pathetic  that  is  something  i  want  to  change  and  am  willing  to  forgo  the  goldfish  for  it
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 Your  substrate  along  with  goldfish  might  be  the  main  problems.
 Clay  is  not  suited  for  planted  tanks,  it  gets  too  compact  and  plant  roots  are  not  able  to  grow.
 substrate  with  gravel  size  of  2-3  mm  is  best  suited  for  planted  tanks,  it  does  not  have  to  be  a  very  costly  substrate.
 Further  goldfish  will  never  let  your  plants  to  grow,  most  will  be  eaten  and  the  rest  uprooted.
 REad  more  in  planted  tanks  forum  for  more  knowledge
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 Dear  Ajeeth
 
                                                 
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I  feel  so  embarrassed  with  that  have  changed  it.                  

 Don't  say  so.  For  a  beginner  it's  OK.If  you  area  genuine  Gold  lover  then  Big  size  Amzon  Sword  plant  or  Giant  vals  could  be  an  options.Again  it  is  temporary.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 Dude  ,hate  to  sound  harsh  .  
 
 Your  Sub  (  and  your  thinking  )  should  be  -  Wanting  to  set  up  a  new  planted  tank.  
 
 It  might  be  better  for  you  to  completely  rethink  the  whole  thing.  
 
 Carpet  plants  are  very  difficult  to  start  maintain  and  grow  ,  it  needs  lots  of  experience.  My  suggestion  is  start  with  Anubia's  ,  Ferns  and  some  Drift  wood.  It  will  make  you  feel  good  and  these  plants  are  hardy  ,  can  grow  well  in  our  conditions,  can  grow  vrey  well  in  DIY  co2  ,  learn  with  these  ,  keep  adding  plants  later  which  are  little  more  advanced.  
 
 Then  get  a  good  substarate  and  then  some  good  lights,  then  the  carpets  happen.  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 thx  a  lot  guys  for  the  encouragement.  And  ranjitpai  i  will  do  that.  It's  just  that  i  want  to  completely  start  new  .Remove  everything  and  start  fresh.  That  is  the  reason  i  wanted  to  know  what  substrate  to  use  and  where  to  get  them  .Sandeep  will  gravel  with  2-3mm  size  stones  is  all  req.  for  plants  to  grow  and  not  need  sand?  I  am  confused  pls  help  me.  I  did  try  amazon  swords  but  the  all  died  in  this.  I  also  tried  two  more  types  but  only  this  survived.  I  got  the  plants  from  kolathur.  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to improve my planted aquarium Reply with quote

 @Ajeet,
 
    Good  luck  to  your  tank  setup  and  reading.  Once  you  read  more  from  the  respective  sections  of  planted  aquarium,  you  will  uncover  the  more  beautiful  fishes  for  the  planted  tank  as  like  how  I  did  Smile  You  got  a  wonderful  source  to  learn  boss   Thumbs Up
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Sandeep  will  gravel  with  2-3mm  size  stones  is  all  req.  for  plants  to  grow  and  not  need  sand?                  

 A  gravel  of  size  2-3  mm  is  ideal  for  planted  tank,  now  I  think  by  sand  you  mean  particles  less  than  1  mm,  they  will  be  too  compact  and  will  endlessly  float  in  your  tank.
 Just  buy  some  coarse  construction  gravel,  first  sieve  it  though  a  4-5  mm  mesh,  throw  the  coarser  prticles,  now  seive  it  by  2  mm  mesh,  throw  the  fine  particles.
 The  resulting  will  be  substrate  with  2-4  mm  particles.  Wash  it  throughly,  boiling  is  preferable.  
 Cool  it  and  use  it.
 This  is  what  I  have  used  in  most  of  my  tanks  with  good  results.
 With  this  substrate  even  if  you  don't  use  any  fertilizers  or  artifical  Co2  supplements,  most  of  commonly  plants  will  grow,  albiet  slowly.  Thumb Up
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