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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: Red fin of Gold Fishes Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Anybody  can  help  me  with  a  permanent  solution  to  Red  Vein/Fin  Rotting  of  Gold  Fishes?  I  am  frequently  facing  this  problem.  Crying or Very sad    Though  I  have  found  some  old  world  remedies  for  the  same  but  frequent  recurrences  is  a  big  headache  for  me.  Confused  
 
 Pl.  let  me  know  the  causes  &  what  should  be  a  full  proof  solution  for  it.  :lol:  
 
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 Fin  Rot  can  be  due  to  a  number  of  underlying  causes.
 
 Please  let  us  know  the  following
 
 Size  of  your  tank
 No.  of  Goldfish  in  your  tank  and  their  size
 Other  inmates  of  your  tank
 Kind  of  filtration  you  use  or  is  there  no  filtration  at  all
 You  water  changes  routine
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what  should  be  a  full  proof  solution  for  it.                    

 Fool  proof  soultion  would  be  to  have  zero  ammonia,  zero  nitrites,  and  less  than  5ppm  nitrates  as  water  quality.  
 This  means  regular  water  changes  and  a  well  functional  biological  filter.
 Goldfish  are  cold  water  fish  and  they  do  best  at  temperatures  between  20-22C.  So  don't  keep  them  with  tropical  fish.
 Unless  tank  size  and  number  of  residents  (and  their  present  size)  are  known  its  difficult  to  say  if  you  are  having  a  overcrowding  problem.
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 for  more  information  on  goldfish.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: Gold Fish Fin Rot Reply with quote

 Thanx  for  all  your  replies.  Very Happy  
 
 Well,  I  have  only  six  Gold  Fishes  out  of  which  four  are  nearly  one  year  olds  &  two  are  relatively  new.  Another  inmate  is  a  Crocodile  Cat  Fish.  Nothing  else.  Filters,  I  have  got  three.  The  Tank  size  is  1.75'x3.5'x1.5'  (WxLxH).  
 
 Water  change:  well,  I  add  water  near'bout  a  big  bucket  a  week  due  to  evaporation  but  do  not  change.  Live  Plants  are  not  much  thriving  Confused  .  Some  old  world  remedies  I  use  are  Sea  Salt  &  Lime.
 
 So,  should  I  be  expecting  a  permanent  fix  with  the  above  info  Confused:
 
 Thanx  once'gain.
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 Water  must  be  changed  on  a  regular  basis.  
 Check  This  Link
 
                                                 
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well,  I  add  water  near'bout  a  big  bucket  a  week  due  to  evaporation  but  do  not  change.                

 You  mean  you  never  did  a  water  change  ever  Confused:    Shocked  How  old  is  the  tank?
 What  all  three  filters  you  have?  And  why  three?
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 You  need  to  do  water  changes  regularly.  50%  weekly  changes  are  a  minimum  I  follow.
 
 Now  that  you  have  been  only  topping  off  evaporated  water,  start  water  changes  10%  daily  for  a  about  10  days,  to  let  your  fish  slowly  acclimatise  to  the  cleaner  water.  You  will  definitely  have  excess  nitrates  built  up  in  the  water  and  this  is  not  good  for  fish.  Water  changes  will  remove  the  excess  nitrates  in  the  water.
 
 There  after  stick  to  regular  50%  water  changes  weekly.
 
 Lime  will  increase  the  hardness  of  water,  and  salt?  Without  water  changes  the  water  your  fish  are  housed  in  will  be  very  hard  and  full  of  all  kinds  of  minerals.  The  fish  are  stressed  out  and  you  have  fin  rot.  To  treat  them  you  add  more  lime  and  salt  ....  the  very  cause  that's  given  them  fin  rot.  You  are  actually  giving  your  fish  fin  rot.  Change  your  ways  -  that's  the  only  permanent  solution  to  your  fish's  maladies.  Smile  
 
 The  concentration  of  these  minerals  will  shoot  up  before  you  make  up  that  evaporated  water  and  more  trouble.
 
 With  the  repeated  addition  of  Lime  (and  no  water  changes)  your  pH  will  be  real  high  about  9.0  -  9.5  or  more.  (  at  about  9.0  -  9.5  all  bacterial  activity  stops  so  nitrates  actually  may  not  be  high  but  ammonia  and  nitrites  will  surely  be  high).  This  will  be  cause  of  all  your  troubles.
 
 There  is  no  alternative  to  water  changes.  And  please  don't  add  lime  to  combat  Fin  Rot  -  this  is  the  first  time  I  have  heard  anyone  doing  it.
 
 Come  on  we  are  5  years  into  the  New  Millennium  forget  the  Old  World  remedies!  :wink:
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 Hi,  milsusan
 
 This  is  what  we  call  pro  explanation.
 
 If  you  follow  the  procedure  properly  (Madan  has  explained),  you  need  to  keep  alarm  once    a  weak  only  for  water  change  and  just  forget(except  for  feeding).
 
 This  is  what  I  am  doing  for  my  gold  fish  tank.
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