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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 09 Nov 08 R Macrandra Reply with quote

 Thanks  Bhushan
 
                                                 
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 The  leaves  look  stunted.  Unni,  no  offence  meant  to  you.  R.  macrandra  is  a  pretty  difficult  plant  to  grow.                  

 No  offense  taken   Smile  
 Since  lighting  is  already  high  that  leaves  me  with  either  inadequate  CO2  or  fertilizers  as  the  cause  for  the  stunting.


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 Unni,  you  will  need  a  pressurized  co2  system  sooner  or  later.  Try  increasing  your  macro  dosage  slightly  and  observe  the  plant  carefully  for  changes.  Also  you  will  need  to  supplement  it  with  iron.  The  iron  in  micro  fertilizer  you  are  adding  will  just  not  cut  it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 09 Nov 08 R Macrandra Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Unni,  you  will  need  a  pressurized  co2  system  sooner  or  later.  Try  increasing  your  macro  dosage  slightly  and  observe  the  plant  carefully  for  changes.  Also  you  will  need  to  supplement  it  with  iron.  The  iron  in  micro  fertilizer  you  are  adding  will  just  not  cut  it.
 Thanks  Bhushan
                 

 
 The  laterite  base  will  not  help  it  enough  for  the  iron?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 09 Nov 08 R Macrandra Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Unni,  you  will  need  a  pressurized  co2  system  sooner  or  later.  Try  increasing  your  macro  dosage  slightly  and  observe  the  plant  carefully  for  changes.  Also  you  will  need  to  supplement  it  with  iron.  The  iron  in  micro  fertilizer  you  are  adding  will  just  not  cut  it.
 Thanks  Bhushan
                 

 
 The  laterite  base  will  not  help  it  enough  for  the  iron?                

 
 IMO  laterite  is  beneficial  to  heavy  root  feeders  like  Echinodorus,  Cryptocoryne  etc.  Stem  plants  generally  respond  well  to  fertilizers  in  water  column.  I  case  of  R.  macrandra  I  have  observed  many  times  that  the  stems  rot  off  faster  that  they  can  form  new  roots  to  establish  themselves.  This  is  the  main  reason  why  a  lot  off  people  lose  this  plant  within  a  few  weeks.  I  looked  at  your  tank  picture.  It  has  started  off  well  and  has  a  lot  of  potential  but  there  is  a  clear  deficiency  of  iron.  Look  at  the  new  shoots  of  Mayaca  fluviatilis.  They  look  white  and  in  extreme  cases  can  become  transparent.  In  a  heavily  planted  tank  with  a  lot  of  stem  plants  iron  is  very  quickly  depleted.  In  most  of  my  tank  I  have  to  dose  iron  everyday.  If  you  can  I  would  recommend  get  hold  of  some  Seachem  Flourish  Iron.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 09 Nov 08 R Macrandra Reply with quote

                                                   
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 IMO  laterite  is  beneficial  to  heavy  root  feeders  like  Echinodorus,  Cryptocoryne  etc.  Stem  plants  generally  respond  well  to  fertilizers  in  water  column.  I  case  of  R.  macrandra  I  have  observed  many  times  that  the  stems  rot  off  faster  that  they  can  form  new  roots  to  establish  themselves.  This  is  the  main  reason  why  a  lot  off  people  lose  this  plant  within  a  few  weeks.  I  looked  at  your  tank  picture.  It  has  started  off  well  and  has  a  lot  of  potential  but  there  is  a  clear  deficiency  of  iron.  Look  at  the  new  shoots  of  Mayaca  fluviatilis.  They  look  white  and  in  extreme  cases  can  become  transparent.  In  a  heavily  planted  tank  with  a  lot  of  stem  plants  iron  is  very  quickly  depleted.  In  most  of  my  tank  I  have  to  dose  iron  everyday.  If  you  can  I  would  recommend  get  hold  of  some  Seachem  Flourish  Iron.
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 Seachem  Flourish  Iron?  Seachem  products  appear  to  be  difficult  to  obtain  in  India.  My  parents  are  in  the  US  right  now.  Shall  order  online  from  one  of  the  online  stores  and  get  it  delivered  to  them  so  that  they  can  bring  it  back
 
 Meanwhile  I  am  dosing  Micros  with  a  product  called  Microsol  B  as  detailed  in  a  Post  by  Madan.  Shall  try  stepping  it  up  a  little.
 I  seem  to  be  getting  a  little  BBA,  so  will  need  to  move  to  pressurized  CO2  sooner  than  later
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 09 Nov 08 R Macrandra Reply with quote

 Unni,  as  far  as  I  know  Microsol  –  B  contains  EDTA  Iron.  EDTA  iron  is  in  ferric  state  Fe  +3.
 Flourish  Iron  is  in  ferrous  Fe+2  state,  which  is  the  form  in  which  plants  require  iron.  When  EDTA  iron  is  used  plants  have  to  use  additional  energy  to  extract  the  Fe+3  and  convert  it  to  Fe  +2.  
 For  now  try  stepping  up  the  micro  dosing.
 You  can  order  Flourish  Iron  from  here:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 18 Nov 08 Bacopa Reply with quote

   Both  plants  were  supplied  as  Bacopa  by  different  suppliers.  I  had  tentatively  identified  the  one  on  the  right  as  B.Caroliniana.
 But  in  a  reply  to  Sandeep  in  a  recent  post  a  similiar  plant  was  identified  as  B  Monnieri,  leaving  me  confused.
 Any  help  in  differentiating  them  would  be  appreciated

 
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 Bacopa  Monnieri  on  the  left  with  small  leaves  and  Bacopa  Caroliniana  on  the  right.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 18 Nov 08 Bacopa Reply with quote

                                                   
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Bacopa  Monnieri  on  the  left  with  small  leaves  and  Bacopa  Caroliniana  on  the  right.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Help to ID plants - Updated 18 Nov 08 Bacopa Reply with quote

 Is  this  Ludwigia  Repens?  A  very  similar  plant  was  identified  as   L  Repens  in  the  beginning  of  this  thread.  I  lost  that  whole  lot  when  I  replanted  them  into  my  main  tank.
 I  got  5  more  stems  from  the  LFS  yesterday.  My  queries  are  
 
    Does  this  plant  have  any  special  requirements?
     Will  It  grow  tall  enough  to  use  as  a  Background  plant  in  a  18  inch  tall  tank?

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Yes  Thumb Up  
 
 This  is  a  background  plant.  Under  right  condition  it  is  the  easiest  red  stem  plant.  Nothing  special  other  than  enough  light  and  nutrients.  Regularly  trimming  the  tops  will  make  its  send  out  side  shoots.
 
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 Yes,  that  is  a  Ludwigia  Repens!  One  of  the  easiest  Ludwigia  Sp.  to  keep  I  came  across!
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Yes  Thumb Up  
 This  is  a  background  plant.  Under  right  condition  it  is  the  easiest  red  stem  plant.  Nothing  special  other  than  enough  light  and  nutrients.  Regularly  trimming  the  tops  will  make  its  send  out  side  shoots.
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 Thanks  Bhushan
 The  Tropica  site  list  the  plant  as  30-  50  cm  high.  Hence  the  question  about  the  placement

 
 
                                                 
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 Yes,  that  is  a  Ludwigia  Repens!  One  of  the  easiest  Ludwigia  Sp.  to  keep  I  came  across!
                 

 
 
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 I  manged  to  kill  them  during  a  attempted  replanting
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 Another  Sunday   Very Happy   Very Happy  
 Me  and  my  son  do  our  rounds  of  the  LFSs  on  Sunday  Morning.  Picked  up  two  plants  today  morning.  I  would  like  some  help  in  ID.  As  always  I  am  clueless
 
 These  were  very  badly  beat  up  specimens  that  I  found  in  Cochin  Blossoms.  The  plant  had  lost  most  of  its  leaves.  I  picked  up  whatever  was  there  and  have  kept  them  in  a  bucket.
 Rajesh  identified  them  tentatively  as  Rotala  Rotundifolia  for  me,  but  the  leaves  don't  really  look  rotund

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I  got  this  set  from  Prince  Aquarium  in  town.  The  LFS  owner  said  that  the  supplier  hadn't  given  a  name  for  this.  I  have  a  sneaking  suspicion  that  this  a  marsh  plant  rather  than  an  aquatic  plant.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 In  addition  to  this  I  was  able  to  pick  up  a  large  bunch  of  Ludwigia  Repens  for  filling  up  my  background   Smile  
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 The  second  is  Hygrophila  Difformis  emersed  grown.  Probably  Rajesh  is  right  about  the  first  one,  Rotala  emersed  grown.
 
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