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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 
 Please  I.D  this  fish.  The  fish  were  caught  by  Mayur  at  Balmuri  twenty  five  Kms  from  Mysore.
 
 More  updated  information  can  be  had  from  Mayur.
 
 My  guess  is  Puntius  Arulius  sp.  Neutral
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 Puntius  Balmurius     ROFL  
 
 Sorry  that  was  my  bestest  guess   Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

                                                   
Shreyasmrao  wrote  (View  Post):                
Puntius  Balmurius     ROFL  
 
 Sorry  that  was  my  bestest  guess   Very Happy                

 
 Good  one.   Smile  
 If  the  rest  of  the  guys  and  walking  encyclopedias  are  flummoxed  we  will  have  to  send  two  preserved  specimens  to  the  Zoological  Survey  of  India   and  name  these  fish  -   
 Puntius  mayuri  balmurius.  Chuckle
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 Puntius  arulius  in  an  advanced  state  of  starvation.
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Puntius  arulius  in  an  advanced  state  of  starvation.                

 
 Thanks.  So  I  did  a  good  guess.  The  fish  catcher  does  not  agree  with  the  name.  Hence  the  post.  Chuckle  
 Mayur  must  have  been  feeding  them  cakes  which  they  refuse  to  eat.   ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 The  fish  have  been  dewormed  and  seem  to  be  feeding  with  no  problem  now,
 I  am  still  confused  about  it  being  Puntius  arulius.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 Likely  Puntius  Arulius,  a  close  lookalike  would  be  Puntius  Faciatus  (less  likely).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 No  confusion.
 
 Terminal  mouth,  short  maxillary  barbels,  adult  fish  with  3  lateral  blotches  and  no  filamentous  extensions  to  the  dorsal  fin  in  males  =  P.  arulius.
 
 Sub-terminal  mouth,  long  maxillary  barbels,  adult  fish  with  3  lateral  blotches  and  filamentous  extensions  to  the  dorsal  fin  in  males  =  P.  tambaraparniei
 
 You  will  see  a  lot  of  pictures  of  the  latter  fish  labeled  as  the  former  because  tambaraparniei  was  considered  a  sub-species  of  arulius  till  2005.  
 
 Remind  me  to  post  pictures  of  P.  tambaraparniei  this  evening.  There  is  no  way  you  can  confuse  adults  of  one  species  for  the  other.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 makes  sense.
 
 Thanks  Rahul.
 
 Seems  like  i  have  a  few  males  and  females,  The  biggest  of  the  lot  is  about  4  inches.
 How  big  do  they  grow?
 
 These  fish  are  a  gift  to  Our  own  the  one  and  only  Rasika  Nayak,
 
 Nayak  you  are  welcome  to  come  and  collect  them.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 4"  is  about  fully  grown.  Maybe  a  tad  more.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 Hi,
 The  fish  is  called  puntius  fasciatus  pradhani.  I  am  not  an  expert,  the  fish  was  Identified  from  the  chart  given  to  me  by  Dr  Sane     coutesy-  The  marine  products  export  development  authority  of  India.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 Tarun,
 
 The  pradhans  Barb  or  the  puntius  fasciatus  pradhani  is  a  completly  different  fish  no  resemblence  at  all.
 
 I  think  after  compering  the  fish  with  a  lot  of  pictures  and  Rahul's  justification  i  think  it  is  the  P.  arulius.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: I.D of this native fish Reply with quote

 P.  fasciatus  pradhani  is  a  melon  barb  with  5  stripes.
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 Hi
 
                                                 
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   the  fish  was  Identified  from  the  chart  given  to  me  by  Dr  Sane     coutesy-  The  marine  products  export  development  authority  of  India.
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 There  are  a  few  wrong  ID's  on  that  chart,  check  the  channa  species  on  the  same  chart
 
 Rgds,
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 Hi,
 That  may  be  a  possibility.
 I  checked  the  chart  and   the  picture  was  named  as  puntius  fasciatus  pradhani.
 I  want  to  bring  to  notice  that  melon  barb  is  PUNTIUS  FASCIATUS  FASCIATUS  and  puntis  fasciatus  pradhani.
 The  book  again  given  to  me  by  Dr  sane  and  it  talks  about  them  describes  the  difference.
   Puntius  arulius  does  not  have  redish  tinch  on  its  dorsal  and  ventral  fin  and  it  doesnt  have  a  spot  on  anal  fin  but  a  complete  line.(  its  a  juvenile),  on  the  contrary  puntius  fasciatus  pradhani  has  reddish  tinch.
 
 differentiating  p.  fasciatus  pradhani  and  p.  fasciatus  fasciatus.
 
 pradhani  has  one  black  spot  near  anal  fin  followed  by  one  incomplete  line  on  the  abdomen  followed  by  another  line  starting  from  dorsal  fin  and  then  has  blackish  head.
 
 fasciatus  fasciatus  has  one  dot  near  the  anal  fin  and  a  faded  black  line  on  the  abdomen  and  none  other.
 
 melon  barb  is  fasciatus  fasciatus  and  not  prdhans  barb.
 The  observation  is  from  the  book  and  the  chart.  I  have  never  kept  them.
 
 
 All  the  three  fish  look  very  similar.
 
 The  chart  may  be  wrong  but  not  the  book.
 Chances  are  bleak  that  both  of  them  have  identical  fault.
 
 Prabhu,  i  guess  you  have  the  same  chart.  I  am  no  native  expert.  I  am  new  with  Indian  natives.  I  have  two  tanks  for  Indian  natives  but  usually  channas,  suretensis  ,goby,  and  some  loaches.
 Can  you  please  let  me  in  with  wrong  names  of  channas.  will  be  obliged
 
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