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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

 Guys,  I  went  to  this  LFS  2  days  back  and  bought  a  pair  of  beautiful  Rams  (LFS  calls  them  RAMA  ROSY  -  Is  there  a  more  appropriate  name  for  RAMA  ROSY?  -  This  one  looks  like  made  up  by  him).  I  saw  these  firemouths  in  one  of  the  tanks.  I  wanted  to  buy  them  but  the  LFS  said  they  are  aggressive.
 
 Now  here  is  my  dilemma,  I  lost  a  beautiful  crown  tail  betta  to  a  pearl  gourami  when  I  was  advised  by  LFS  that  they  were  compatible.  I  read  this  article  on  Firemouths  -  http://www.essortment.com/all/firemouthcich_rtjt.htm
 
 This  says  that  I  CAN  keep  them  if  I  have  the  right  setup.  Now  I  would  really  like  to  take  a  little  risk  to  get  this  fish  in  my  tank  -  I  wish  to  buy  a  pair.  I  have  the  following  setup:
 
 3  feet,  30  gallon  tank,  overstocked  Smile  -  I  take  care  of  30%  water  change  every  week  and  sometimes  twice  a  week.
 I  have  dollars,  gouramis,  platys,  danios,  swordtails,  guppies,  tetras,  rams,  silver  sharks,  a  corydora  and  a  snail  in  this  tank.
 
 Do  you  think  I  should  introduce  this  firemouth  pair  in  this  tank?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

 I  don't  think  this  would  be  a  good  idea  because  the  Firemouth  can  be  very  territorial.  Especially  with  the  guppies  and  tetras  around,  it  could  be  a  lethal  mix.  Thumb Down  
 And  for  the  "Rama  Rosy"  part,  it  wasn't  made  up  by  the  LFS  guy  because  here  in  Mumbai  too  all  the  LFS  call  them  as  "Rama  Rosy".  And  just  for  fun,  you  ask  them  what  type  are  these,  and  pat  comes  the  reply  "  Chicklets"   ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

 Firemouths  are  semi-aggressive  but  not  as  bad  as  many  other  CA/SA  cichlids.  They  can  be  territorial  at  the  time  of  mating  and  guarding  the  fry.  
 Firstly  your  tank  is  overstocked,  you  need  to  remove  many  fishes  before  adding  any  new  ones.  Silver  sharks  and  dollars  are  not  at  all  suitable  for  you  present  tank.
 
 Firemouths  can  be  kept  along  with  a  school  of  robust  tetras  like  widows,  red-eyes,  buenos  aires,  columbian,  etc.  Neons,  glowlights,  cardinals  are  strict  NO.
 Livebearers  share  their  habitats  along  with  firemouths,  hence  no  problems  having  them  along  with  big  swordtails  and  mollies.  
 
 In  order  to  have  a  balanced  tank  remove  all  present  fishes  and  add  a  pair  of  firemouths  with  a  school  of  either  tetras  or  livebearers.  Other  robust  schoolers  like  giant  danios,  rosy  and  tiger  barbs  can  also  be  used  instead.
 
 Firemouths  dig,  but  I  havent  found  them  eating  plants,  so  you  can  use  sword  plants,  crypts,  etc  in  plastic  pots.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

 Ram  Cichilid  is  Ramirezi
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  Guys.  I  guess  I'll  stick  to  what  I  have  and  not  go  for  the  firemouth.  All  fishes  are  happy  presently  so  let  them  be.  Amen.
 
 O  yes,  Ramirezi  -  That's  the  name.  Thanks  Saurabh.  I  remember  reading  it  somewhere.   Hey  Binesh,  so  very  true  about  that  CHICKLET  thing.  Everyone  here  in  Pune  says  that  in  the  LFS.  Another  recent  instance  about  this  'made  up'  names  happened  when  I  bought  these  golden  honey  yellow  dwarf  gouramis  (http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43655)  and  this  LFS  guy  said  it  is  NOT  A  GOURAMI  but  a  Lily  fish  Smile  he  he.
 
 The  RAMA  ROSY  is  this:  http://www.petshop-zoomania.com/CICHLIDS/Ramirezi%20young%20male.jpg
 
 Mine  is  not  as  colorful,  but  very  much  like  this.  
 
 The  LILY  is  this:  http://www.bangkokaquarium.com/images/gourami/Gold-Honey-Gourami.gif
 
 I  think  my  Lilies  Smile  are  beautiful  than  this.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Firemouth in a community tank Reply with quote

                                                   
Hamza  wrote  (View  Post):                
Firemouths  are  semi-aggressive  but  not  as  bad  as  many  other  CA/SA  cichlids.  They  can  be  territorial  at  the  time  of  mating  and  guarding  the  fry.  
 Firstly  your  tank  is  overstocked,  you  need  to  remove  many  fishes  before  adding  any  new  ones.  Silver  sharks  and  dollars  are  not  at  all  suitable  for  you  present  tank.
 
 Firemouths  can  be  kept  along  with  a  school  of  robust  tetras  like  widows,  red-eyes,  buenos  aires,  columbian,  etc.  Neons,  glowlights,  cardinals  are  strict  NO.
 Livebearers  share  their  habitats  along  with  firemouths,  hence  no  problems  having  them  along  with  big  swordtails  and  mollies.  
 
 In  order  to  have  a  balanced  tank  remove  all  present  fishes  and  add  a  pair  of  firemouths  with  a  school  of  either  tetras  or  livebearers.  Other  robust  schoolers  like  giant  danios,  rosy  and  tiger  barbs  can  also  be  used  instead.
 
 Firemouths  dig,  but  I  havent  found  them  eating  plants,  so  you  can  use  sword  plants,  crypts,  etc  in  plastic  pots.                

 
 Amen...   Smile  
 I  would  only  make  one  change  in  that  and  that  is  adding  a  single  firemouth  (instead  of  a  pair)  with  the  school.  This  will  ensure  that  the  firemouth  does  not  pair  up  and  get  very  aggressive  and  nor  does  it  get  aggressive  with  its  own  partner  if  they  aren't  a  pair.
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