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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Hi  Friends  !
 
 Hope  all  is  well  and  great  !
 
 Just  wanted  to  request  for  some  guidance  on  growing  out  Brine  Shrimp  to  Adult  Stage.  I've  read  on  the  internet  that  the  Shrimps  that  we  hatch  from  Eggs  (in  a  DIY  hatchery)  can  be  raised  to  adult  size  (about  a  cm  if  I'm  not  wrong)  to  Increase  the  Protein  Content  and  to  satisy  the  Bigger  Fishes.  It  will  also  be  possible  and  fairly  easy  to  Gut-Load  the  Adults  with  good  Nutrition  for  fish.
 
 I've  started  an  experiment  like  thing  to  try  this  out  and  would  be  grateful  if  somebody  can  kindly  give  me  some  guidance.
 
 So  far  I've  taken  a  batch  of  Hatchlings  and  put  them  in  a  Fairly  large  Fish  bowl,  with  clean  Salt  Water.  I'm  maintaining  24  Hours  of  moderate  aeriation,  to  keep  the  shrimp  and  the  food  in  suspension  all  the  time  and  to  prevent  or  minimize  dead  spots  within  the  bowl.
 
 I'm  feeding  these  guys,  well  dissolved  Spirulina  Powder,  as  these  are  filter  feeders.  Its  been  2  days  now  and  the  babies  have  grown  a  little.  I'll  keep  you  guys  updated  on  this  and  will  try  to  post  a  few  pics...
 
 Kindly  guide  me  a  little  regarding  this...
 Have  a  Wonderful  day  and  keep  smiling  !  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 khush  
 
 great  to  know  you  growing  brine  shrimp  ...i  tried  once  but  very  long  back  .you  can  try  feeding  them  with  yeast  tablets  .  getting  in  medical  stores
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Hi  Kush,
 
 Why  are  you  re-inventing  the  wheel?  
 
 Adult  artemia  in  frozen  form  is  readily  available.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 
 Found  this  in  my  hatchery  which  i  had  ignored  for  a  long  time  and  simply  had  aeration  running....
 IMO  its  too  big  a  PITA  to  grow  them  out....  Depends  on  what  fish  you  want  to  feed  them  to...  
 As  Suraj  said,go  for  adult  artemia  in  frozen  form...
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Spirulina  and/or  green  water  could  get  them  to  adult  size  in  less  than  a  month.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Madhu,could  you  give  some  suggestions  regarding  the  setup?  Also,just  as  there  is  some  percent  of  hatch  rate  for  cysts,any  rough  figure  as  to  how  many  of  the  cysts  that  hatch,make  it  to  adulthood?
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Hey  Friends  !
 
 Thanks  a  lot  for  the  kind  replies  and  for  caring.  Kindly  note  that  I'm  doing  this  mainly  for  a  learning  experience  and  out  of  inquisitiveness  -  I  know  that  it  will  not  be  very  practical  &  feasible  to  grow  a  large  qty  of  Shrimps  to  Adult  Size,  as  Suraj  Sir  has  rightly  mentioned  -  it  will  not  be  of  any  use  (as  regular  fish  feed)  because  the  Frozen  ones  are  easily  available  these  days...
 
 Anyways,  I  just  want  to  grow  out  a  batch  and  see  how  many  make  it  and  how  my  fish  respond  to  the  live  ones...  will  keep  you  guys  updated.  Wish  me  luck,  guys   Thumb Up  
 
 Have  a  Wonderful  day  !
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Hi  Kush,
 
 I  was  at  Chennai  SIA  in  T.Nagar  and  found  out  that  the  Artemia  Cyst  come  in  two  varieties  80%  hatch  rate  and  and  another  with  90%.  As  to  the  growth  to  adult  I  am  not  sure,  However,  I  would  be  interested  in  the  findings  as  well.  Also  a  can  of  artemis  cysts  OSI  80  Pro  will  set  you  back  about  1500  Rupees.  
 
 Wishing  you  all  the  best.  Let  us  know  what  percentage  make  it  to  adulthood.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

                                                   
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Madhu,could  you  give  some  suggestions  regarding  the  setup?  Also,just  as  there  is  some  percent  of  hatch  rate  for  cysts,any  rough  figure  as  to  how  many  of  the  cysts  that  hatch,make  it  to  adulthood?                

 
 I  had  over  90%  hatch  rate  on  OSI  BS  and  if  they  are  fed  well  more  than  80%  of  what  hatch  would  grow  to  adulthood.   I  just  had  a  well  aerated  bucket  of  salt  water  and  fed  2  capsules  of  Spirulina  a  day.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Hi  Madhu,
 
 Thanks  a  lot  for  caring  and  for  the  kind  guidance.  Wow,  a  80%  Adult  Size  would  be  great  !  I  hope  to  get  the  same  result  but  anyways  I'll  keep  you  updated  on  the  results.  Another  factor  would  be  that  I'm  using  a  lesser  water  volume  than  a  bucket.  These  guys  are  in  a  1  Liter  Fish  bowl  with  daily  water  changes.  If  this  is  a  success  then  I'll  go  for  Madhu's  idea  of  using  a  larger  water  volume  -  a  bucket  or  a  small  tank  -  I  guess  a  bucket  would  be  more  handy  though...
 
 Anyways,  another  thing  which  I'm  keen  to  find  out  with  the  help  of  this  experiment  is  -  I've  read  that  in  certain  water  conditions  (low  salinity  levels  if  I'm  not  wrong)  the  Adult  Brine  Shrimp  reproduce  a  little  differently  -  that  is  they  give  brith  to  live  young  instead  of  laying  eggs  -  Any  ideas  regarding  this  Madhu  ?  Would  be  great  to  find  out  and  see  this  in  real  -  again,  will  keep  you  friends  updated...
 
 If  this  is  true  and  fairly  easy  to  achieve,  then  may  be  these  little  guys  can  also  be  kept  as  pets  in  a  small  tank  and  the  excess  could  be  used  as  handy  live  feed  (  gut-loaded  with  vitamins  and  spirulina  )
 
 Thanks  again  for  the  time  and  suggestions  friends  -  really  appreciate  it  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 Friends,  just  wanted  to  share  another  interesting  thing  regarding  the  baby  brine  shrimps,  which  I  read  earlier  and  have  tried  personally  /  practically.  I  know  this  may  be  common  knowledge  among  the  more  experienced  guys  but  I  just  thought  that  may  be  beginners  like  me  would  find  it  interesting  &  useful  -
 
 As  we  all  know  the  Nutritional  Content  of  the  Newly  Hatched  Brine  Shrimp  is  very  high  when  they  hatch,  and  it  gradually  (or  should  I  say  rapidly)  deteriorates  over  a  period  of  24  hours,  after  which  the  baby  shrimps  are  almost  considered  worthless.  This  is  because  the  Yolk  Sac  of  the  babies  are  the  REAL  nutrition  and  the  same  are  used  by  the  babies  for  their  own  growth.  I  wanted  to  preserve  this  nutrition  AND  also  keep  the  babies  alive  at  the  same  time  (so  that  they're  more  enticing  to  the  baby  fish)  atleast  for  a  few  hours  more  (enough  for  the  next  feeding)  I  started  reading  about  this  on  the  net  and  a  few  books  that  I  have  and  found  that  when  the  Brine  Shrimps  are  kept  at  low  temperatures  (  as  like  in  a  fridge  -  not  the  freezer  -  freezing  will  kill  them  and  we'll  loose  the  'Live-Food-Factor'  )  the  shrimps  become  almost  inactive  (but  they  dont  die)  and  hence  they're  unable  to  use  the  yolk  sac  (the  real  nutrition  that  nature  designed  for  them)  which  helps  us  aquarists  pass  on  the  same  to  our  baby  fish.  When  the  Shrimps  are  removed  from  the  Fridge  and  left  at  room  temp,  they  start  gaining  activity  and  are  in  full  motion  in  a  few  minutes  -  just  take  them  in  a  pipet  and  feed  to  your  babies  -  easy  and  effective  Smile  
 
 I  personally  found  this  amazing  and  very  useful,  and  have  also  tried  &  seen  this  practically.  I  really  hope  that  this  was  an  interesting  (and  useful)  reading  for  a  few  other  beginners  like  me  :)
 
 Have  a  Wonderful  day  !
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 Hi  Kush,
 
 I  dont  see  any  harm  in  trying  to  rear  your  own  artemia  to  a  adult  stage  because  you  can  load  their  guts  with  any  sort  of  food/additives  that  you  might  want  to  feed  your  fish  but  are  not  able  to  because  it  does  not  come  in  pellet  form.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 @Madhu
 Do  you  hatch  your  cysts  in  the  bucket  itself,or  hatch  them  first  in  a  smaller  bottle  and  then  transfer  them  to  a  bigger  container?  When  i  tried  to  transfer  the  bbs  hatched  in  a  bottle  to  a  bucket,all  of  them  vanished  in  2-3  days...
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 As  we  all  know  the  Nutritional  Content  of  the  Newly  Hatched  Brine  Shrimp  is  very  high  when  they  hatch,  and  it  gradually  (or  should  I  say  rapidly)  deteriorates  over  a  period  of  24  hours,  after  which  the  baby  shrimps  are  almost  considered  worthless.                

 
 No  living  organism,  is  a  worthless  food.
 
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 I  hatch  them  in  a  bottle  and  then  into  a  bucket.   They  will  perish  if  they  don't  get  enough  food.   That  might  be  a  reason.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Growing Out Brine Shrimps Reply with quote

 ok.  thanks  for  clarifying  madhu,will  try  out  your  method  and  post  here...  Spirulina  capsules  of  the  "Himalaya"  brand  will  be  ok?
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