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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: Frontosa Tank mates Reply with quote

 I  am  planning  a  5ft  long,  2ft  wide  and  2.5ft  tall  tank  for  fronts[about  12  three  inchers].
 
 Just  wondering  what  tank  mates  can  coexist  peacefully  with  them.  I  nkow  I  can  introduce  a  few[maybe  4  or  5  each]  leleupis,  reganiis,  marlieris,  brichardis,  and  brevis.  
 
 I  am  worried  these  fish  might  soon  start  breeding,  and  get  territorial  when  they  have  fry.  
 
 Whats  your  opinion?  
 
 I  was  also  thinking  of  one[or  maybe  2]  synodontis  angelicus.  I  know  this  in  not  from  Tanganyika,  but  this  is  the  only  Synodont  I  can  lay  my  hands  on.
 
 I  am  looking  at  a  long  term  plan  for  the  tank.  Please  advise!
 
 Thanks  and  Regards,
 Nitin  S.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Frontosa Tank mates Reply with quote

                                                   
nytyn  wrote:                

 Just  wondering  what  tank  mates  can  coexist  peacefully  with  them.  I  nkow  I  can  introduce  a  few[maybe  4  or  5  each]  leleupis,  reganiis,  marlieris,  brichardis,  and  brevis.  
 
                 

 
 all  of  the  above  would  be  dinner  once  the  fronts  get  bigger.  you  could  keep  grown  calvus  or  comps  thanks  to  their  armor.  also  larger  malawi  haps.
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 What  Zedd  said,  except  perhaps  the  marlieri
 
 4-5  of  each  is  a  recipe  for  disaster.  For  a  long  term  tank,  go  with  the  fronts,  6  marlieri  and  a  trio  of  altolamps.  Once  you  have  a  pair  of  marlieri  dispose  off  the  rest.
 
 Also,  S.  eupterus  is  the  only  syno  I've  seen  regularly  in  India...  are  you  sure  about  the  angelicus.
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 Hi,
 
 They  say  that  frontosas  are  mild  by  nature  unlike  other  cichlids.This  is  true  but  as  they  grow  they  begin  to  get  a  little    aggressive  even  if  not  as  aggressive  as  other  cichlids.I  currently  have  a  7"  frontosa  and  i  have  seen  its  behavioural  changes  as  the  fish  grew.From  a  fish  that  co  existed  with  tetras,then  cichlids  it  came  to  a  point  when  it  would  nip  at  my  arowana.
 
 The  malawi  dolphin  moori  is  a  good  option  and  they  get  along  well  with  frontosas.Plecos  are  another  option.The  electric  yellow  cichlid  is  yet  another  peaceful  fish  with  which  my  fronts  hav  lived.Its  a  malawi  cichlid  though.My  front  has  also  lived  with  a  silver  arowana  without  any  problems  except  for  an  ocassional  nip  which  was  nothing  to  worry  about.Overall  i  would  say  that  it  wouldnt  be  a  bad  idea  to  try  getting  your  fronts  to  live  with  a  few  other  fish
   
 .Its  all  about  experimentation.You  may  be  glad  once  you  see  that  it  works  and  that  you  have  a  lively  colourful  setup.The  only  thing  to  keep  in  mind  is  to  add  them  all  when  they  are  young  and  less  aggressive.
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 Nitin  here's  what  the  piscivorous  Frontosa  did  to  my  fish,  all  fish  were  added  together  as  1.5  inch  juveniles  including  the  Frontosa:
 
 Regani  -  all  gobbled  up
 Cylindericus  -  5  gobbled  up
 Leleupii  -  11  gobbled  up
 Brichardi  -  6  +  100s  of  fry  gobbled  up  +  2  more  brichardi's  introduced  did  not  last  a  week.
 tetracanthus  -  more  than  200  Fry  eaten  up.
 T.  Moori  -  8  gone
 
 All  this  before  they  chased  each  other  and  4  frontosa  largest  5  inches  jumped  out  -  The  only  thing  that  could  have  been  prevented  with  a  cover!
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 Nytin,
 Altos  can  survive.    Another  advantage  is  both  being  slow  growers  would  reach  adulthood  at  almost  the  same  time.    Another  option  is  tetracanthus,  but  the  prob  is  they  grow  much  faster  than  fronts  and  compete  for  food  faster  than  Fronts.
 I've  got  8  fronts,  the  biggest  at  around  3"  and  smallest  at  around  2"  with  their  own  hirarchy  and  IMO  better  to  leave  them  on  their  own  or  have  them  with  Altos  or  tetracanthus  and  any  malawi  cichlid  would  put  them  in  stress  atleast  until  they  grow  to  adults.
 WHATEVER  YOU  PUT  ALONG  WITH  FRONTS,  COVER  THE  TOP.    I'VE  HEARD  STORIES  OF  FRONTS  LEAPING  OUT  OF  TANKS  FROM  A  SIZE  OF  2  FT  TO  8FT.
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 Sorry  Nitin,  I  just  wanted  to  know  the  same  thing,  is  it  ok  if  we  keep  Oscars  with  them.  I  am  also  planning  for  the  tank  of  same  size  of  that  of  Nitin.  I  am  planning  to  put  two  Oscars  in  that  .  The  size  of  the  Oscars  is  around  9-10  inches.  But  they  are  generally  not  so  aggressive.  So  will  be  advisable  if  I  add  some  fronts  with  them.  Once  they  grow  big  I  will  change  them  to  a  new  tank  of  their  own.  Please  advise.
 
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 Apart  from  temperament,  Oscars  are  very  messy,  which  triggers  a  water  quality  problem.    Also  they  always  seem  to  be  hungry  and  will  gobble  up  all  the  food  you  feed  leaving  the  Fronts  to  starve.    If  you  are  adding  Fronts  to  an  Oscar  tank,  the  fronts  may  not  settle  at  all.    Even  if  you  are  adding  Oscars  in  a  Front  tank,  Oscars  can  easily  scare  Fronts.    For  these  reasons  i  won't  put'em  together.
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Also,  S.  eupterus  is  the  only  syno  I've  seen  regularly  in  India...  are  you  sure  about  the  angelicus.                

 
 Rahul,  sorry  about  that  one,  its  the  eupterus.
 
 
                                                 
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The  only  thing  that  could  have  been  prevented  with  a  cover!                

 
 Madan,  I  totally  agree.  I  learnt  my  lesson  very  early  on  that  one.  Lost  2  fronts,  that  were  given  to  me  for  holding  by  a  friend.  Housed  them  in  separate  tanks,  and  they  grew  well,  and  jumped  well  too.
 
 I  would  never  look  at  fish  like  Oscars,  or  Arowanas.
 
 I  was  wondering  if  I  do  need  the  synodontis,  or  at  least  a  sucker  cat,  to  take  care  of  the  algae,  and  do  a  bit  of  scavenging  too.
 
 Another  big  Q!  Got  12  fronts  in  here[5X2X2.5],  that  are  3  inchers.  
 
 I  also  have  a  dozen  1.5  inch  big  ones  that  I  am  growing  out,  in  a  separate  tank.  Can  I  dump  them  in  here,  and  get  some  out  once  they  have  grown,  or  would  it  be  over  crowding?
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 A  syno  will  not  eat  algae,  and  a  pleco  will  end  up  producing  more  waste...
 
 12  fronts  is  pushing  it  in  that  tank...  add  more  you  risk  stunting  growth.
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 Yeah,  I  guess  the  stunting  factor  should  be  taken  into  account!  So  I  will  hang  on  with  these  12  buggers!
 
 I  do  understand  that  just  the  frontosas  should  do.  But  if  some  other  fish  can  be  added  to  break  the  monotony,  was  just  wondering!
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 12  would  be  fine.    Anyways  when  they  grow  you  should  be  giving  the  males  and  be  left  out  with  around  8  which  is  a  fair  enough  stock.
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 J.  marlieri  or  Altolamps  if  you  want  to  stick  with  tangs
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 Or  blue  dolphins  if  you  don't  mind  the  malawi/tang  mix
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 I  have  decided  to  keep  it  a  totally  front  only  tank!
 
 At  least  for  the  time  being!
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