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do you think discuss are hardy fishes?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: Keep this fishes only if you have big money and time!! Reply with quote

 [Based  on  a  topic  on  MAS]
 
 Common  name  -  Scientific  Name  -  Gallons  required  -  Max  Size
 
 1.  Silver  Arowana  (Osteoglossum  bicirrhosum)  -  200+  gallons  -  4ft
 
 2.  Pearl  Arowana  (Scleropages  jardini)  -  180+  Gallons  -  30"
 
 3.  Florida  Gar  /  Spotted  Gar  (Lepisosteus  platyrhincus/Lepisosteus  oculatus)  -  (Tank  width  of  2ft)  -  2ft
 
 4.  Alligator  Gar  (Atractosteus  spatula)  -  2000  Gallons  -  10ft
 
 5.  Discuss  fish  -Symphysodon  aequifasciatus/discus  300  Gallons  -  3ft
 
 6.  Giant  Gourami's  (Osphronemus  goramy)  -  200  Gallons  -  20"+
 
 7.  Pacu  /  Red  Belly  Pacu  (Colossoma  brachypomum)  -  300  Gallons  -  24"+
 
 8.  RTC/Red  Tail  Catfish  (Phractocephalus  hemioliopterus)  -  pond  is  best
 
 9.  TSN/Tigher  Shovel  Nose  (Pseudoplatystoma  fasciatum)  -  pond  is  best
 
 11.  Tiger  Shark  (Pangasius  hypophthalmus)  -  300  Gallons  -3ft
 
 12.  Koi/Carps  -  (Needs  a  pond)  -  3ft+
 
 13.Oscar  (Astronotus  ocellatus)-300gallons-2ft+
 
 14.Archer  Fish  (Toxotes  jaculatrix)
 
 15.Clown  Knifefish  ((Notopterus)  Chitala  ornata)
 
 16.stingrays
 
 17.Flowerhorns  [adults]-300gallons-2ft+
 
 18.Neon  Tetra  (Paracheirodon  innesi)
 
 19.Striped  Panchax  Killifish  (Aplocheilus  lineatus)
 
 any  suggestions  are  welcome...  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 thats  pretty  much  all  the  monster  fishes..nothing  is  left..i  suppose  a  newbie  can  keep  these  fishes  if  he  spends  a  good  amount  of  time  on  research  first.all  one  needs  to  do  is  cycle  the  tank  and  provide  good  food  and  water  conditions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 Yes,  IMO  that  list  should  include  some  more  sensitive  fish  too,  like  the  'ick  prone  clown  loaches',  'sensitive  Rams',  'diff  to  keep  alive  for  long  neon  tetras'  etc.  +  some  brackish  water  fish  like  puffers,  scats,  monos  which  are  sold  as  freshwater  fish  in  quite  a  few  LFS's  and  which  are  pretty  aggressive  too.  Also  all  the  African  Rift  lake  Cichlids  should  fall  into  this  list,  considering  that  they  are  commonly  available  around,  and  many  beginners  are  enticed  by  their  vibrant  colours.
 
 Or  would  it  be  easier  to  make  a  list  of  beginner  fishes,  and  conclude  that  all  others  not  in  the  list  aren't  suitable  for  beginners.   Chuckle  
 
 Also  to  add,  some  of  those  fish  listed  above  are  pretty  hardy,  and  if  the  beginner  has  a  big  enough  tank  and  has  done  the  required  research  as  stated  by  Rameez,  I  dont  see  why  they  cant  be  kept  with  ease.
 
 Btw,  300  gallons  for  1  oscar/flowerhorn???  And  I  think  you  meant  tank  min-size  and  not  max  size.  Smile   Min  4  feet  seems  too  less  for  RTC/TSN.  RTC's  need  ponds.  Some  other  stats  in  there  also  are  wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Yes,  IMO  that  list  should  include  some  more  sensitive  fish  too,  like  the  'ick  prone  clown  loaches',  'sensitive  Rams',  'diff  to  keep  alive  for  long  neon  tetras'  etc.                

 The  neon  tetras..i  haven't  been  able  to  keep  these  little  guys  alive  for  a  long  time  in  my  mini  tank.  Its  kinda  heartbreaking  really   Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 All  of  these  are  monster  fishes  and  require  to  spend  a  lot  of  money.  A  newbies  can  also  keep  these  fishes  if  he  want  to  spend  money+time+passions.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 You  might  want  to  amend  the  topic  title.  The  fish  in  that  list  are  all  fairly  easy  to  maintain,  they  just  end  up  growing  too  large  for  home  aquaria.  Even  "experts"  shouldn't  keep  them  if  they  cannot  provide  proper  homes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

                                                   
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You  might  want  to  amend  the  topic  title.  The  fish  in  that  list  are  all  fairly  easy  to  maintain,  they  just  end  up  growing  too  large  for  home  aquaria.  Even  "experts"  shouldn't  keep  them  if  they  cannot  provide  proper  homes.                

 
 Well  said!  What  I've  seen,  all  the  kids  getting  arowanas  do  so  cos  they  are  fascinated  by  the  idea  of  watching  the  hunt,  of  the  arowana  eating  live  feed.  And  the  arowanas  also  do  quite  well  until  they  begin  to  outgrow  the  tanks  and  the  water  quality  deteriorates.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 Dear  Shantanu,
 
 Almost  all  fish  listed  there  are  pretty  hardy  &  can  be  kept  by  anyone  provided  you  meet  their  basic  requirements.
 
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 Discus:  Can  be  kept  in  50+G  tank  but  you  should  be  particular  about  water  changes,  food  etc.
 Arowana/Rays:  Tank  Width  &  Volume  is  important  alongwith  water  quality  etc.
 Other  Fishes:  Tank  Volume  influence  their  growth,  territorial  issues  etc.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 we  should  not  be  bothered  about  many  of  the  fish  there  in  the  list  that  are  not  easily  available  in  LFS  here  in  India...more  appropriate  would  be  to  list  those  that  are  easily  available  in  LFS  so  that  newbies  can  avoid  them...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

 In  my  opinion,  everyone  can  get  the  above  fishes  if  there  is  proper  knowledge  about  it.  Nowadays  there  r  tonnes  of  resources  available  over  net.  So  first  one  have  to  decide  what  type  he  wish  to  have.  Then  a  research  over  net.  Then  proper  tank  and  filteration.  Then  comes  regular  maintainance.tats  it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Keep this fishes only if you have big money and time!! Reply with quote

 Topic  name  changed*                  If  you  think  there  should  be  some  more  fishes  tell  me  I'll  add  them*
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fishes that shouldn't be kept by newbies!! Reply with quote

                                                   
koolbanti  wrote  (View  Post):                
we  should  not  be  bothered  about  many  of  the  fish  there  in  the  list  that  are  not  easily  available  in  LFS  here  in  India...more  appropriate  would  be  to  list  those  that  are  easily  available  in  LFS  so  that  newbies  can  avoid  them...                

 
 
 hmmmm.....about  80-90  percent  in  the  above  list  are  easily  available  in  Bangalore.  and  sparing  a  few(like  red  arowana).  others  are  decently  priced.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Keep this fishes only if you have big money and time!! Reply with quote

 May  I  ask  why  Aplocheilus  lineatus  is  in  the  list?
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 Smile  I  dont  agree  with  it....  people  just  keep  fish  because  of  cool  blue  heart  throbbing  love  for  it.....  and  for  that  there  is  no  reason  except  love....  meri  neend  ud  gayi  hai,  mera  chayne  kho  gaya  hai,  tere  pyar  mein  meri  jaan  yay  kya  ho  gaya  hai.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Keep this fishes only if you have big money and time!! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Smile  I  dont  agree  with  it....  people  just  keep  fish  because  of  cool  blue  heart  throbbing  love  for  it.....  and  for  that  there  is  no  reason  except  love....  meri  neend  ud  gayi  hai,  mera  chayne  kho  gaya  hai,  tere  pyar  mein  meri  jaan  yay  kya  ho  gaya  hai.....                

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