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 hi,
 
 Finally  in  the  third  attempt  of  my  angelfish  spawn,  am  seeing  the  eggs  for  more  than  2  days.    All  is  fine,  till  the  third  day.    I  was  eagerly  went  running  to  see  the  wrigglers,  but,  only  to  see  all  the  eggs  turning  white.    What  could  be  the  problem  here.    There  were  few  eggs,  may  be  1  or  2,    turning  white  on  the  2nd  day.    Is  it  something  to  do  with  the  water  quality?
 
 Am  having  the  pair  in  a  18"  cube,  water  upto  75%  of  the  tank.    Though  I  have  a  PVC  tube  kept,  my  fishes  chose  the  plastic  tube  in  the  sponge  filter  to  spawn.    I  didn't  change  water  since  the  egg  is  laid  and  so  some  debris  were  collected  in  the  bottom.
 
 Please  advice  on  any  improvements  that  I've  to  do.


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 Hi  Thillu,
                           What  is  the  temperature  of  the  tank?  Also  the  eggs  that  turn  white  are  the  unfertilised  eggs  and  are  eaten  by  the  parents  before  they  catch  fungus  and  spoil  the  other  eggs  too.  It  also  may  be  a  case  of  a  mature  female  and  a  not  so  mature  male.  Give  them  some  more  time.  They  should  be  usually  spawning  every  20  days  or  so.  Feed  them  live  food  and  also  keep  the  water  really  clean  to  induce  them  to  spawn  often  with  good  number  of  broods.
 
           Well  if  they  still  dont  seem  to  be  taking  care  of  their  eggs  after  quite  a  few  spawns  then  i  guess  you  will  have  to  resort  to  seperating  the  eggs  from  the  parents  and  then  hatching  them.  Lets  hope  they  will  take  care  of  their  eggs  and  u  wont  have  to  do  this  process.  
 
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 Thillu,  are  you  sure  one  of  them  is  a  male?
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retro_gk  wrote:                
Thillu,  are  you  sure  one  of  them  is  a  male?                

 First  confirm  on  that  because  sometimes  even  2  females  can  make  romance  &  lay.    Another  reason  could  be,  initially  inexperienced  males  would  not  be  able  to  fertilize  the  eggs.    They  make  it  in  the  2nd  or  3rd  try.
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Thillu,  are  you  sure  one  of  them  is  a  male?                

 
 I'm  sure  it  is,  because  my  friend  was  raising  fries  from  this  brood.    
 
 I  now  see  some  fungul  kind  of  stuff  around  many  eggs.    They  seems  to  be  a  thin  line  over  the  eggs.    I  don't  see  the  parents  eating  the  unfertilized  eggs.    Whenever  the  guy  goes  on  to  peck  the  unfertile  egg,  the  female  chases  away  the  guy.    
 
 I  still  have  some  good  eggs,  atleast  they  didn't  turn  white  yet.    What  is  the  usual  period  for  the  eggs  to  hatch.
 
 Nikhil,  the  temperature  is  29  C.
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 At  29C,  the  eggs  should  hatch  in  3  days.  If  this  pair  have  spawned  successfully  before,  there  is  no  reason  for  them  to  screw  things  up.  Just  give  them  some  time.
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 Thillu,
 
 If  the  fish  are  healthy  and  mature,  they  WILL  spawn.  Dont  worry  at  all.  
 
 I  suggest  you  keep  doing  your  water  changes  normally.  Dont  worry  about  the  fish  spwaning,  they  will  do  it.  Once  you  are  sure  the  female  is  able  to  release  eggs,  then  its  no  hassles.  
 
 I  too  had  a  pair  that  refused  to  do  it  right,  though  the  previous  owner  was  succesfully  hatching  batches  of  400  and  500  fries!  A  place  change  rings  an  insecure  feeling  to  the  fish  too.  So  once  they  settle  down,  they  will  do  it  right!
 
 I  would  suggest  you  add  methylene  blue,  or  acriflavine,  once  the  eggs  are  laid.
 
 It  usually  takes  6  to  7  days  for  the  fries  to  free  swim,  though  they  do  hatch  in  2  or  3  days.
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 Hi
 
 Thillu
 
 From  my  experiance,  I  give  below  the  Procedure  I  followed.
 
 I  place,    Half  of  the  normal  Slate,  used  for  writing,  and  after  6  Hours,the  Eggs  were  removed  with  the  slate  and
 placed  in  a  4  Lit  Transperant  Bucket  with  water  of  MB  and  a  Airstone  just  below  the  Eggs  to  give  Good  turbulance  to  avoid  Fungs.  After  three  days  you  can  notice  Wriglers,then  go  for  a  Water  Change  using  the  Net,  and  after  every  feed,change  the  water  and  in  about
 4  to  6  weeks  after  Hatching,  you  can  remove  to  the  normal  grow  out  Tanks.With  this  method  you  get  about  250  to  300  Fry.Try  it.
 
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 Thanks  for  all  the  replies  friends.    
 
 The  whole  lot  of  eggs  turned  unfertile/got  fungus.    I'll  have  to  wait  for  the  next  spawn.    What  surprises  me  is  that  the  guy  was  trying  to  clean  up  the  pipe  but  the  mom  is  still  adament  and  chasing  away  the  guy  and  doing  the  fanning.
 
 I  chose  to  remove  the  tube  myself  and  clean  it.
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 Nice  method  Sundar.    But,  I  love  to  watch  the  parents  doing  the  care.    May  be  sometime,  when  I  have  time  and  more  tank  I  could  follow  the  way  you  suggested.    Thanks  for  the  suggestion.
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 So  sorry,  I  missed  out  on  the  main  thing!
 
 Thillu,  please  do  check  and  monitor  the  eggs  closely.
 
 Let  us  know  if  the  eggs  are  turning  white,  or  if  they  are  infested  with  fungus.  These  are  totally  different  things.  Eggs  turning  white  indicate  that  the  eggs  are  not  fertilized,  that  could  probably  be  due  to  the  male  not  doing  his  job.
 
 Regarding  fungus,  I  have  raised  about  200  plus  fries  after  a  whole  batch  of  eggs  was  to  be  devoured  by  fungus!  
 
 So,  white  eggs,  or  fungussed  eggs?  Once  you  are  clear  with  that,  then  we  can  go  ahead  and  fine  tune  other  aspects.
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 Nitin,  I  see  some  eggs  that  turned  white  and  many  eggs  with  white  colored  hair  like  growth  in  it,  guess  it's  a  fungus.    
 
 I  was  thinking  of  cleaning  up  the  pipes,  but  the  parents  were  quick  and  they  did  the  job  for  me,  finally.    No  eggs  left,  no  fries  from  this  batch.    Waiting  patiently  for  them  to  spawn  again.    But  then,  before  that  I  should  correct  my  errors,  whatever  I've  done.
 
 Experts,  please  throw  some  light.
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 I've  never  had  fertilised  eggs  fungus.  Sounds  like  your  fish  are  not  doing  a  proper  job  cleaning  the  eggs.  From  your  description,  looks  like  the  female  has  issues.  Next  time  they  spawn,  remove  the  female  from  the  tank,  or  use  a  divider  to  keep  her  away  from  the  eggs.  Leave  the  male  to  take  care  of  the  spawn.
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 If  the  eggs  are  turning  white  and  opaque,  that  means  they  are  not  transparent,  then  they  have  not  been  fertilised.  To  combat  the  fungus  add  a  few  drops  of  methyl  blue  (Rid  All  or  other  blue  Ich  meds  contain  this)  to  the  water.  
 
 The  only  thing  to  remember  is  methyl  can  stain  the  silicon  on  the  sides  of  the  tank.
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