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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: Angel isolating itself and not eating Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
           I  have  6  Angels  and  for  the  past  4-5  days  one  angel  stopped  eating  anything  and  always  goes  to  the  end  of  the  tank.  The  tank  size  is  4  feet  and  the  inmates  are
 
 4  -  clown  loaches
 2-  yo  yo
 1-  black  ghost
 2  -  corys
 6-  zebra  danios
 2  -  guppies
 
 Tank  has  lot  of  plants  and  i  feed  them  dried  blood  worms.
 The  pecilier  thing  was  it  was  eating  like  a  pig  in  the  morning  but  when  i  came  from  office  I  saw  that  angel  in  one  corner  and  when  i  offered  food  it  picked  one  or  two  dried  blood  worms.  But  gradually  in  few  days  it  stopped  eating  at  all.  Right  now  it  looks  healthy  but  i  am  bit  worried  about  it.  I  am  sure  something  is  wrong  with  that  fish.  But  donno  what  it  is?  Please  help.
 
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 Try  isolating  the  fish  in  a  quarantine  tank.  It  is  possible  it  is  being  picked  on  by  other  fish.
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 Just  thinking  aloud:  can  something  like  malawi  bloat  happen  to  angels.
 
 How  is  the  abdomen?  Distended?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Mohan:
 
 Also  check  if  it's  discharging  white  long  thread  like  structure...if  Yes,  it  could  mean  Tapeworm...(Most  common  in  Angels  other  than  Discus...)...
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 Hi  Nag,
           I  checked  that  it  was  not  in  white  colore  it  was  in  dark  color.  Can  I  try  treating  it  for  internal  worms?
 
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 Hi  Mohan:
 
 OK  fine.  Was  it  thready  like...long...?  If  Yes,  it  could  be  a  sign  of  Constipation...try  giving  Epsom  Salt  bath...
 
 Feed  fish  with  varied  diet  always...prevents  fish  constipation...
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deepesh  wrote:                
Just  thinking  aloud:  can  something  like  malawi  bloat  happen  to  angels.
                 

 
 Sure,  if  fed  an  excess  of  dry  foods.  Although  the  mechanism  is  different.
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 what  do  you  feed  it?  how  frequently?
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 Hi  All,
           Thanks  for  your  inputs.  Today  morning  it  died.  After  seeing  nag's  post  yesterday  night  i  spent  some  time  and  noticed  that  the  discharge  was  thread  like  and  was  long.  So  i  thought  of  giving  epsom  salt  treatment  as  per  nag's  suggestion.  But  morning  before  i  could  buy  epsom  salt  it  died.  Some  body  please  tell  me  what  was  the  problem  and  how  i  could  have  avoided  it  so  that  i  will  be  prepared  to  face  these  kind  of  situations.  To  answer  lancelot  i  feed  dried  blood  warms  and  never  had  problems  but  few  weeks  ago  i  started  feeding  ever  read  discus  food  (similar  to  tetra  bits).  But  i  stopped  feeding  that  after  seeing  my  angel  in  that  condition  suspecting  that  something  is  wrong  with  that  ever  red  food.  Because  as  per  the  exp  date  mentioned  in  the  food  container  it  will  exp  in  next  few  months.  Is  that  the  problem?
 
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 Freeze-dried  worms  are  not  safe  though.    They  might  contain  parasite  cysts.    Even  though  many  dry  foods  dont  have  an  expiry  date,  they  loose  their  nutritional  value  by  getting  oxidized  if  kept  for  long.    But,  I  dont  think  Ever  Red  would  have  triggered  the  parasite.    The  parasite  might  have  got  into  the  system  before  and  would  have  turned  fatal  now.    Its  better  to  treat  all  other  fishes  to  avoid  other  fishes  being  affected  in  future.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Here's  an  important  thing  to  notice...
 
 Pellet  food  tend  to  increse  in  size  when  wet...so,  be  careful  what  kind  of  pellets  you  feed...
 
 As  an  instance,  I  had  witnessed  the  death  of  few  Denisoni,  a  few  months  back...
 After  a  close  look,  it  was  apparent  that  they  had  died  due  to  stomach  bloat...further  closer  examination  revealed  that  the  food  they  had  consumed  the  previuos  night  was  the  cause  of  this!!...
 
 I  asked  what  were  they  fed...the  answer  was  "Gold  Fish  Pellets"...Alas!!
 
 Hence,  feed  food  intended  for  that  particular  sp.  of  fish  only...
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 Thanks  for  your  inputs.  Should  i  have  to  give  epsom  salt  dip  treatment  to  all  the  fishes  to  prevent  it  spreading?  Is  it  basically  an  internal  parasite  problem?
 
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 Hi  Mohan:
 
 Constipation/Stomach  Bloat  is  not  an  epidemic...so  it  doesn't  spread...
 Whereas  Internal  parasites  are,  as  they  keep  looking  for  newer  hosts...
 
 It  is  best  that  your  quarantine  all  you  new  fishes  before  releasing  them  to  the  main/display  tank...
 Also,  do  de-worm  them  once  in  six  months...
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 Hi  Nag,
           What  is  deworming.  Can  you  please  tell  me  how  to  do  it?
 
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 Something  is  terribly  going  wrong  in  my  tank.  My  another  angel  which  was  very  agressive  and  strong  started  behaving  like  the  one  died  recently.  The  peculier  thing  is  it  was  very  healthy  and  did  not  show  any  sign  of  sickness  till  saturday  night.  But  all  of  a  sudden  i  saw  it  isolating  itself  and  showing  sign  of  sickness  very  badly.  I  added  one  gauramin  on  saturday  evening  to  the  tank.  I  saw  the  discharge  as  thread  like.
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