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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:08 pm Post subject: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 hello,  my  tank  dimesions  are  3*1*1.5  feet  and  i  have  2*36  watt  Philips  PLL(6500k)  and  one  2  feet  light  (2700k).
 please  suggest  about  the  lighting  is  enough  or  i  have  to  add  somemore.
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please  suggest  about  the  lighting  is  enough  or  i  have  to  add  somemore.                  

 
 For  What??  Kindly  mention  details  of  your  setup  and  what  exactly  are  you  planning  to  house...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 i  am  going  to  plant  
 1  hygrophilia  polesperma
 2  Cabomba  caroliniana
 3  Anubias  barteri  var.  nana
 4  Cryptocoryne  wendtii
 5  Hygrophila  sp.  'Tiger'
 6  Hygrophila  difformis
 7  Aponogeton  crispus
 8  ludwiga  repens
 9  amazon  sword
 10  vallisneria  americana
 and  i  have   1  inch  laterite  and  2  inch  normal  gravel  and  will  regularly  dose  micro  nutrients  and  will  have  pressurised  co2  setup.
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 iam  going  to  house  in  that  mainly  some  tetra's  and  1  SAE.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 Thats  good  lighting,  considering  you  are  going  to  have  a  pressurized  CO2.  
 
 Apart  from  that  I  would  suggest  you  to  go  for  some  serious  nature-style  aquascaping,  with  a  less  and  selective  variety  of  plants.
 
 Most  of  those  hygros,  valisneria  and  swords  will  grow  odd  and  out  of  proportion  for  that  sized  tank.  Better  drop  them  off  the  list.  They  are  more  suitable  for  larger  tanks.  
 
 Also  if  you  can  afford/feel  like  spending,  go  for  some  good  branded  fertilizers  and  substrate  base,  that  will  make  a  huge  difference.
 
 And  try  read  as  much  on  aquascaping,  plants  and  planted  tanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 hi,
 
      i  think  the  lighting  is  insufficient,  if  u  can  efford,  try  MH  70w,and  a  36w  PLL.
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 Hello  moonwalker  -  MH  for  18  inches  height   and  for  the  plants  listed   Surprised  
 
 Shah  -  the  amount  of  lighting  you  have  would  be  sufficient,  i  would  suggest  retaining  Hygrophila  difformis  as  it  will  look  nice  (my  personal  opinion)...also  if  you  do  no  intend  to  buy  commercial/branded  substrate  then  reverse  your  substrate  calculation....i.e.   2  inch  laterite  and  1  inch  gravel...
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 Thanks  Hamza,cokeamod,Binesh  and  moonwalker  for  your  advice,will  try  to  get  good  branded  substrate  also  i  have  ADA  ferts.
 by  the  way  hamza  can  we  not  regularly  prune  those  hygrow's,vall's  and  swords.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 @  Binesh,
   
               the  tank  he  specified  is  33g  capacity.lumns  are  not  cumulative  example  36w  pll  gives  2500l,it  doesn't  mean  that  2nos  36w  plls  gives  5000l.the  final  lumns  will  be  2500.
 
 suppose  for  6footer  how  much  light  you  ll  suggest?
 
 the  lesser  surface  area  requires  more  intense  lighting.  its  my  opinion,  i  may  wrong  sometimes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

                                                   
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@  Binesh,
   
               the  tank  he  specified  is  33g  capacity.lumns  are  not  cumulative  example  36w  pll  gives  2500l,it  doesn't  mean  that  2nos  36w  plls  gives  5000l.the  final  lumns  will  be  2500.
 
 suppose  for  6footer  how  much  light  you  ll  suggest?
 
 the  lesser  surface  area  requires  more  intense  lighting.  its  my  opinion,  i  may  wrong  sometimes.                

 
 Hi  Moonwalker  you  may  be  wrong  in  calculating  lumes,  2  tubes  of  each  2500  lumen  output  will  produce  5000lumens  of  light.It  is  the  colour  temperature  which  should  not  be  added  such  as  2  tubes  of  6500k  produces  6500k  colur  output  only.
 
 Hi  shah2002,
 Regarding  the  light  output,  you  need  to  have  3wpg  which  is  ~100W  light  for  your  tank,  your  current  lighting  is  okay.Since  your  tank  is  1.5  feet  high  you  dont  need  a  MH  to  get  the  desired  amount  of  light.
 Hope  experts  can  give  you  the  exact  details.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 @moonwalker...Its  not  advisable  to  have  an  MH  on  12"  deep  tank  for  many  reasons.
 
 @Shah...Actually  I  had  a  tank  of  very  same  dimensions,  check  my  previous  threads  for  photo  journals.
 And  hygros  and  vals  were  properly  invasive  in  there,  I  dint  even  dose  them  properly  then,  even  though  I  wasnt  able  to  keep  up  with  their  pace  of  growth.
 I   started  with  some  10  vals  and  later  had  to  remove  over  a  100  in  a  matter  of  months,  every  weekend  if  I  dint  trimmed  them  to  surface,  they  used  to  cover  half  of  the  tank,  and  hygro  difformis,  which  is  quite  a  beautiful  plant,  outgrew  some  rotalas,  hm  and  started  spreading  horizontally  over  the  foreground  plants  almost  killing  them,  eventually  had  to  pull  them  out  completely,  even  after  that  ,  their  roots  inside  were  producing  new  shoots.
 And  for  biggr  amazon  swords,  these  plants  grow  really  huge,  good  old  settled  specimens  can  cone  over  half  of  your  tank  size,  and  their  enormous  root  systems  are  another  threat  for  other  plants  arount  them.  They  can  even  spread  throughout  your  whole  tank,  making  it  impossible  for  most  of  the  other  plants  to  establish  root  system.
 
 And  if  you  are  planning  to  have  such  plants  in  good  lighting  and  pressurized  Co2,  cant  imagine  how  they  can  bother  you.
 
 These  plants  IMO  are  good  for  lowtech(walstad  type)  tanks  with  minimal  or  no  dosing  at  all  or  maybe  some  large  tanks  where  such  a  growth  pace  is  desired.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: PLL lighting question Reply with quote

 @  Hamza,
 
          what  do  you  suggest  the  tank  depth  to  use  MH
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@  Hamza,
 
          what  do  you  suggest  the  tank  depth  to  use  MH                

 
 At  least  18",  there  are  a  couple  of  discussions  on  this  in  our  forum.
 
 Even  I  was  planning  to  have  a  75w  MH,  but  dint  take  it  for  the  same  reason.
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 Hi,
 I  need  some  help  on  PLL  Ballast.
 I  have  few  36W  Phillips  PLL  4p,  which  electronic  ballast  i  should  use?  dealers  are  recommending  Phillips  EB-F  136  SUMO  ballast  but  it  has  only  TL  /  TLD  written  on  it.  Phillips  website  does  not  have  any  detail  on  that  ballast.
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 hello  Mohan.G  tell  the  dealor  to  get  you  philips  bonsai  it  comes  with  the  holder,an  electronic  ballast  and  the  PLL  itself,  its  of  36  watts
 it  is  easy  to  set  up  and  the  ballast  is  already  connected  to  the  holder  and  is  4pin  type.
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