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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Experts,
 
 My  discus’s  are  started  pairing  off  and  need  your  guidance  for  making  a  best  pair.  I  know  they  didn’t  like  arrange  marriage!!!  But  here  is  a  quadrangle   love  started   Smile  .
 
 The  current  situation,  I  have  11  fishes  in  BB  tank.  3  males,  6  females,  2  without  guess  (stunned  and  small  in  size,  will  replace  those  soon  with  good  males).
 Males  :
 2  Blue   Torqs.  –  4  inches  (one  is  always  behind  the  sponge  filter,  come  out  only  for  feeding)
 1  Blue  diamond  –  4.5  inches,  not  in  good  shape,  has  a  sight  problem.
 
 Females  :
 1  Red  map  3.5  inches.
 2  Brown  3.5  inches.
 1  Snakeskin  4.5  inches,  has  a  sight  problem.
 1  Yellow  Crystal  3.5  inches.
 1  Red  melon  4  inches.
 
 The  male  blue  torq  is  in  form  and  trying  to  pair-off  with  snakeskin.  The  Redmap  female  is  a  territorial  and  trying  to  pair-off  with  same  blue  torq.  The  Red  Melon  and  YC  are  also  trying  their  luck.   Cheer Up  
 
 The  best  pair  will  be  Blue  Torq  and  Re  Melon,  can  I  move  them  in  separate  tank  so  that  they  can  bond  to  each  other?
 
 Let  me  know,  how  to  identify  the  exact  pair  ?  When  to  move  them  to  breading  tank  and  other  precaution  needed  for  breeding  tank.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Blue  Torq  with  Re  Melon  crossing.....  Sad  I  don't  think  so  it  will  be  a  good  idea.  Becz  u  don't  what  type  of  baby  will  come  out  !!  Expert  comments  plz.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Kiran  ,
 
 Since  you  are  a  beginner,  try  to  separate  two  discus,  which  you  always  find  together  and  trying  to  occupy  their  area.  Other  tips  for  breeding  ,  search  it  in  this  forum  ,you  will  find  out  lot  of  details  .
 
 It  is  not  advisible  to  seperate  breeding  pairs  which  are  smaller  in  size  ,  once  they  breed  and  fries  starts  pricking  their  slim  they  may  have  multiple  problems  .  
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Thanks  Abhis  for  advise.
 
 Shiva,
 
 I  forgot  to  mension  that  the  size  is  of  body  and  not  mouth  to  tail.
 
 As  per  my  observation  Snakeskin  and  Blue  torq  are  together  and  both  are  in  good  shape  and  size.
 Will  wait  for  another  couple  of  weeks  and  then  move  the  bounded  pair  in  breading  tank.
 
 I  had  a  literature  with  me  for  breading  discus  but  that  is  only  bookish  knowledge  and  in  beginning  always  need  expert  advice  from  you,  Aditya  and  Yogi.  I  always  go  through  the  IAH  forum  where  you  Three  Amigos  are  involved.
 
 Will  catch  you  any  one  of  three,  if  needed!!!
 
 Cheers,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Dear  Kiran  ,
 
 You  may  like  to  read  the  below  thread  on  Discus  Breeding  .
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17336
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Dear  Shiva,
 
 Noted  all  the  tips!!!
 
 Thanks,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Kiran
 
 First  of  all,  congrats  for  getting  your  discus  on  pair-forming.
 This  means  you  are  keeping  them  in  good  conditions,  which  indicates  pair-forming  &  breeding  later.
 
 Separate  your  Blue  Turq  male  &  LSS  female  in  18"  cube.
 Doesn't  matter  if  she  has  good  vision  problem,  fry  will  be  healthy  so  long  as  she  is  able  to  see  flat  surface  to  lay  her  eggs  on.
 
 Meanwhile  you  can  get  Jack  Wattley's  book  'Discus  Breeding  For  Beginners'  for  reference  &  future  care.
 You  should  be  able  to  get  this  book  at  http://www.nbcindia.com/Descriptions.asp?6v6yr_vq=MJEHLE&Book=Discus-Breeding-for-Beginners
 
 Abhida  is  right  is  saying  Turq  &  Melon  pairing  may  produce  some  ugly  frys.
 Keep  this  thread  posted  with  update.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Yogi,
 
 Thanks  for  the  guidance.
 
 The  18  inch  cube  is  ready  and  will  ship  to  my  place  by  today  evening.  Already  ordered  sponge  filter  and  Sera  heater  from  Nirav  for  breading  tank.  Will  remove  one  sponge  filter  from  existing  tank  to  breading  tank.
 
 Will  check  the  new  tank  for  leakages  and  will  clean  all  the  excess  silicon.  Think  it  would  be  better  to  cycle  the  tank  for  one  week  with  siphoned  water  and  old  sponge  filter,  what  did  you  think?
 
 About  Discus  Breeding  for  Beginners,  is  it  really  required?   Kindly  guide.
 
 Guys,  I  am  looking  for  two  good  discus  males  around  4  inches  body  size,  about  one  and  half  year  old.  PM  me  if  anyone  wants  to  sale.
 
 Regards,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 If  you  are  using  Sponge  Filter  from  your  existing  tank,  IMO  no  need  to  wait  for  week  to  cycle  new  tank.
 A  day  or  two  is  enough  to  get  your  tank  ready  to  dump  discus  pair  inside.
 
 Book  is  not  at  all  essential  for  breeding.  Chuckle  
 Just  suggested  it  for  your  reference  for  some  good  breeding  &  fry  care  information.
 
 I  have  both  Blue  Turqs  &  Red  Map  males  in  size  you  are  looking  for,  PM  or  call  for  information  if  interested.  Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 I  prefer  to  keep  them  in  same  tank  &  let  them  spawn  in  community.  In  community  they  bond  very  well.  Many  times  i  got  good  pairs  in  community  tank.  If  they  are  eating  eggs  immediately  after  spawning  or  not  interested  in  guarding  the  eggs  then  they  can  create  problem  at  the  time  of  actual  breeding.  In  other  hand  if  they  fight  with  others  &  manage  to  keep  eggs  more  than  24  hours  then  chances  of  good  pair  is  little  high.  Even  i  got  good  spawn  in  my  community  tank  &  i  shifted  pair  &  spawn  later  in  breeding  tank.  
 
 Good  luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Guys,
 
 What’s  happening  in  my  community  tank  is  Red  Map  female  is  very  territorial  and  trying  to  pair  with  Blue  Torq  but  Blue  Torq  is  going  after  Snakeskin  female.  Whenever   Blue  torq  and  Sankeskin  start  acting  Red  Map  female  is  bulling  on  snakeskin  female.  Red  Melon  female  also  trying  her  luck  but  other  both  the  females  are  bulling  on  her.
 
 Poor  Blue  Torq  male,  it  is  situation  like  Marathi  drama  “Teen  Bayaka  Fajiti  Aaika”   ROFL  
 
 Yogi,  I  am  ordering  that  book  and  will  call  you  today  night.
 
 Cheers,
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Guys,  I  am  confused   Confused   and  need  your  precious  guidance.
 
 Blue  Torq  male  flirting  with  Red  Map  and  Snakeskin  female.
 
 Last  night  Red  Map  female  has  spawn  on  filter  pipe  and  Blue  torq  male  has  fertilized  it.  After  15  to  20  minutes  both  have  ate  the  spawn  and  not  guarded  at  all.  Again  blue  torq  male  has  twisting  and  dancing  with  snakeskin  female.  Really  don’t  know  what’s  going  on,  as  per  my  observation  Blue  Torq  is  liking  snakeskin  female  and  he  always  try  to  get  her  in  the  spawning  place.  Snakeskin  female  is  also  giving  the  response  but  Red  Map  female  is  a  territorial  and  bulling  on  her.
 
 My  breading  tank  is  cycled  and  ready  with  all  the  equipment  to  move  the  confirm  pair  in  it  but  I  am  confused  which  pair  is  a  confirmed  one!!!
 
 Kindly  advise.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Discus Pairing Off Reply with quote

 Kiran  ,
 
 Try  to  seperate  the  pair  at  the  earliest  ,Don't  keep  the  pair  in  community  tank  ,  once  they  get  the  habbit  of  eating  eggs  ,  they  will  continue  the  same  in  breeding  tank  also  .
 Once  i  notice  any  pair   in  community  tank  ,  I  try  to  seperate  them  at  the  earliest  and  provide  them  their  own  breeding  tank  .
 
 
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 Shiva,
 
 I  really  confused  which  pair  has  to  move,  spawned  one  or  trying  to  get  together?
 Can  I  move  Red  Map  and  Blue  Torq?  as  they  already  laid  the  eggs.
 
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 Kiran  ,  
 
 Remove  Blue  turq  and  Snake  Skin  .
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