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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 
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 Will  anything  grow  on  its  own  here?  Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Dear  garotham,
 it  would  be  better  if  you  could  keep  your  DIY  co2  at  a  level  above  the  level  of  the  tank.
 When  i  was  stating  my  DIY  i  was  suggested  by  a  friend  to  attach  the  outlet  to  a   filter  air  outlet.  I  found  this  to  be  of  great  help  as  it  gave  my  tank  very  fine  bubbles.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Dear  garotham,
 it  would  be  better  if  you  could  keep  your  DIY  co2  at  a  level  above  the  level  of  the  tank.
 When  i  was  stating  my  DIY  i  was  suggested  by  a  friend  to  attach  the  outlet  to  a   filter  air  outlet.  I  found  this  to  be  of  great  help  as  it  gave  my  tank  very  fine  bubbles.
 best  of  luck
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 Kuldip,  Could  you  explain  to  Garothman  why  the  DIY  CO2  bottles  should  be  kept  at  a  level  above  the  level  of  the  tank.   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Dear  garotham,
 it  would  be  better  if  you  could  keep  your  DIY  co2  at  a  level  above  the  level  of  the  tank.
 When  i  was  stating  my  DIY  i  was  suggested  by  a  friend  to  attach  the  outlet  to  a   filter  air  outlet.  I  found  this  to  be  of  great  help  as  it  gave  my  tank  very  fine  bubbles.
 best  of  luck
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 Thanks  Mats....  I'll  do  that,  but  should  I  place  it  above  the  tank...?  I  have  used  a  "  T  "  between  the  air  supply  and  the  CO2...  I  have  used  a  controller  on  the  CO2  bottle  also.  when  the  air  passes  thru  the  "  T  "  it  also  carries  the  CO2  with  it.  I'll  show  the  picture  in  the  evening...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 garothmaan,
 i  have  connected  my  diy  co2  directly  to  the  filter  and  not  kept  any  air  inlet  attached  to  it.  This  lets  me  know  when  the  co2  is  going  to  get  finished  and  needs  to  be  replaced  with  a  new  setup.  (It  stops  giving  bubbles).  The  bottle  is  kept  above  the  level  of  the  outlet  as  we  do  not  want  the  water  in  the  tank  to  move  backwards  and  go  to  the  bottle.  if  that  happens  it  will  be  a  disaster  for  the  aquarium.  incase  you  do  keep  the  bottle  below  the  level  of  the  outlet  then  a  valve  is  used  to  block  the  flow  from  moving  bakwards  to  the  bottle.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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 garothmaan,
 i  have  connected  my  diy  co2  directly  to  the  filter  and  not  kept  any  air  inlet  attached  to  it.  
                 

 
 Do  you  mean  that  you  do  not  have  any  air  pump  to  give  out  airto  the  tank  except  the  DIY  gas?
 
 
                                                 
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   incase  you  do  keep  the  bottle  below  the  level  of  the  outlet  then  a  valve  is  used  to  block  the  flow  from  moving  bakwards  to  the  bottle.
                 

 
 Yes  I  am  using  that  one-way-valve,  but  I  can  difuse  the  CO2  with  the  air  pump  right?...  And  my  DIY  CO2  is  giving  out  very  little  bubbles......plus  it  is  making  the  water  cloudy....what  do  you  think?  Smile
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 Garothmaan,  have  you  put  sand  as  the  top  layer???  are  you  sure  the  sticks  you  have  planted  are  aquatic  plants?
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Garothmaan,  have  you  put  sand  as  the  top  layer???  are  you  sure  the  sticks  you  have  planted  are  aquatic  plants?                

 
 Yes  all  the  sticks  are  aquatic  plants,  but  1  of  my  neighbours  son  has  put  those  mats  from  his  tank  on  the  drift  wood,  I  dont  know  what  that  is....its  green  mat,  today  the  water  is  completely  green  and  cloudy  Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Hi  Garothmaan  ,
 
 Had  missed  this  thread  a  bit.
 Your  tank  looks  like  a  Alien's-lair(last  level  in  Contra)  brown  spongy  like  sand,  white  smog  like  fungus?and  the  leaf  less  plants.
   Shocked  scary  for  sure.
 Your  lucky(?)  wood  looks  to  be  uncured(?),  so  that  white  layer  of  fungus(?).
 
 Well  sand  needs  to  be  atleat  3-4mm  in  grain  else  will  cause  anareobic  substrate,  bad  for  any  tank.
 Get  few  amazon  swords/crypts  for  starters.  stems  seem  to  have  hard  time  with  your  lights.
 No  idea  if  its  algae(good)  or  terrestrial  moss(bad).
 
 
                                                 
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I  have  used  a  "  T  "  between  the  air  supply  and  the  CO2...  I  have  used  a  controller  on  the  CO2  bottle  also.  when  the  air  passes  thru  the  "  T  "  it  also  carries  the  CO2  with  it.  I'll  show  the  picture  in  the  evening...                  

 Your  CO2  setup  is  vague,  you  dont  need  a  "T"  at  all.  If  you  have  thought  of  giving  air  and  CO2  then  just  use  your  airpump,  air  has  Good  amount  of  CO2  too.
 Your  setup  should  be  like  bottle>bottle  cap>tube>powerhead>aquarium.  Any  hole  or  leak(your  T  junction)  anywhere  makes  this  setup  useless.
 
 1st  thing  change  the  substrate,  then  restart.  else....  Good  luck.
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

 Garothmann,  You  are  making  everyone  tense.  
 
 Guys  in  Bangalore  are  wondering  what  is  in  your  DIY  bottle  to  get  that  type  of  color.  
 
 Excess  yeast  is  my  bet.
 
 You  have  only  alcohol  in  your  bottle.
 
 Suggest  you  follow  only  one  guys  advice.  Saikumar  looks  reliable.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Moving to Planted Tank-Economy Class Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Garothmaan  ,
 Your  tank  looks  like  a  Alien's-lair(last  level  in  Contra)  brown  spongy  like  sand,  
                 
  Chuckle   Ya  right....
 
 
                                                 
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 white  smog  like  fungus?and  the  leaf  less  plants.  Shocked  scary  for  sure.Your  lucky(?)  wood  looks  to  be  uncured(?),  so  that  white  layer  of  fungus(?).                

 Fungus?  oops....  but  the  wood  is  from  a  reliable  source....  it  is  from  an  LFS...
 
 
                                                 
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 Well  sand  needs  to  be  atleast  3-4mm  in  grain  else  will  cause  anareobic  substrate,  bad  for  any  tank.Get  few  amazon  swords/crypts  for  starters.  stems  seem  to  have  hard  time  with  your  lights.
 No  idea  if  its  algae(good)  or  terrestrial  moss(bad).                

 ok  Sad  ....
 
 
                                                 
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 Your  CO2  setup  is  vague,  you  dont  need  a  "T"  at  all.  If  you  have  thought  of  giving  air  and  CO2  then  just  use  your  airpump,  air  has  Good  amount  of  CO2  too.Your  setup  should  be  like  bottle>bottle  cap>tube>powerhead>aquarium.  Any  hole  or  leak(your  T  junction)  anywhere  makes  this  setup  useless.                

 Can  you  show  me  a  more  demonstrative  thread  with  pictures  for  CO2  please?  Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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 1st  thing  change  the  substrate,  then  restart.  else....  Good  luck.                

 But  isnt  this  mud  laterite?
 
 
                                                 
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 Garothmann,  You  are  making  everyone  tense.  Guys  in  Bangalore  are  wondering  what  is  in  your  DIY  bottle  to  get  that  type  of  color.  Excess  yeast  is  my  bet.You  have  only  alcohol  in  your  bottle.
 Suggest  you  follow  only  one  guys  advice.  Saikumar  looks  reliable.  Thumb Up
                 

 
 I  am  doing  that   Crying or Very sad  ....  I'll  pick  up  slowly....  Surprised
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 Mud  is  not  laterite.  Laterite  is  red  in  colour.  The  more  red  the  better.  laterite  and  mud  have  different  textures.


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 This  planted  bowl  did  not  require  anything,  such  as  CO2,  Air  pump,  it  had  no  fungus,  no  extra  substrate,  no  T5's.  The  soil  is  not  even  laterite...  its  plain  garden  mud...  Surprised  
 
 This  bowl  WAS!....  simply  getting  natural  light,  natural  air,  and  the  plants  were  quite  good,  infact  I  have  planted  those  sticks  from  this  bowl....
 
 Only...  in  monsoon,  the  bowl  got  algae,  which  I  cleaned  it  by  hand  and  next  day  everything  was  back  to  normal...
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