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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Project Starts Reply with quote

 Well  bro,
 Here  its  44.5  degC  as  per  Dev.  I  know  you  sent  us  some  heat  from   there.
 
 Let  me  post  few  pics  of  the  DIY-probable-cheap-porous-rings,  thats  in  the  evening.
 I  used  the  "Diya",  ones  used  for  Diwali,  wasnt  as  effective  as  brick  pieces.  Brick  piece  remained  intact  even  after  10months,  so  you  can  vouch  on  it  on  next  WC.
 
 Till  then  cheers  mate!
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 I  used  the  "Diya",  ones  used  for  Diwali,  wasnt  as  effective  as  brick  pieces.  Brick  piece  remained  intact  even  after  10months,  so  you  can  vouch  on  it  on  next  WC.
                 

 
 Thanks  for  suggestions,  will  do  that.  I've  a  lot  of  them  on  one  construction  site.
 
 
                                                 
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 Well  bro,
 Here  its  44.5  degC  as  per  Dev.  I  know  you  sent  us  some  heat  from   there.
                 

   ROFL
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Project Starts Reply with quote

                                                   
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 What  does  porous  mean,  if  that  means  water  should  pass  through  it  then  yes  these  are  porous.
 Since  these  are  rings,  they  have  a  tunnel  and  the  water  easily  flows  through  it.
 Since  it  is  made  of  ceramic,  walls  are  not  porous.
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 Porous  in  the  sense  that  it  has  minute  holes  all  over.  This  will  give  lots  of  space  for  bacteria  to  colonise.  The  ceramic  rings  we  get  in  electrical  shops  are  not  porous.  You'll  get  a  better  idea  if  you  compare  that  with  the  ceramic  rings  meant  for  aquariums.  The  electrical  shop  ones  are  smooth  and  shiny;  whereas,  the  ones  meant  for  aquarium  use  is  rough  and  full  of  small  holes  all  over.
 
 Hence,  my  suggestion  to  use  brick  pieces  instead.  Break  them  into  small  pieces  and  wash  them  thoroughly  before  use.
 
 Btw,  nice  tank  you  have  there.  I  don't  see  any  cooling  fans.  Nice  lush  growth  in  this  heat.
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

 Saurabhbhai.  there  are  2  types  of  ceramic  materials...1  with  very  smooth  and  closed/compact  surface  with  gloss/polisg...  the  other  is  a  complete  rough  surface  which  is  practically  porous  (has  tiny  holes  where  air  can  pass  easily.  You  have  probably  brought  the  "insulation  conductor  rings"  which  have  a  compact  surface  and  actualy  shines  like  polish,  IMO...it  would  not  give  the  right  results.  If  you  realy  want  ceramic  material  with  porosity,  get  those  ceramic  crucibles  (small  jars)  from  afoundry  or  a  goldsmith  who  do  vaccum  casting,  break  them  and  add  these  fragments  into  the  filter,  then  see  the  magic  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

 Has  anyone  tried  using  Pumice  stone  as  a  media....  its  the  stone  which  is  generally  used  for  scrubbing  the  feet...  Its  highly  porous  and  tents  to  float  in  water  but  I  have  read  that  it  sinks  when  soaked  in  water...
 
 Link  to  wiki:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumice
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

                                                   
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Has  anyone  tried  using  Pumice  stone  as  a  media....  its  the  stone  which  is  generally  used  for  scrubbing  the  feet...  Its  highly  porous  and  tents  to  float  in  water  but  I  have  read  that  it  sinks  when  soaked  in  water...
 
 Link  to  wiki:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumice                

 
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

 Fine  Saurabh,
 
 Good  evening  atlast.  Smile  
 2  pics  for  your  reference  as  to  how  I  wanted  you  to  use  the  "Filter-candles"
 Hope  they  leave  you  with  ZerO  doubts  and  -1problems.
 
 PIC1:
 
 
 PIC2:
 
 
 They  surely  will  be  much-MUCh  economical  than  commercial  available  things.
 Just  take  care  to  buy  branded  stuff,  RAMA  does  give  you  good  thing(one  in  the  pic  from  top  filter),  one  of  cheap  quality  I  used  earlier  melted  away  in  canister.
 Few  required  links  for  ref.
 
 http://www.ramawaterfilter.com/wf.html
 http://www.faireyceramics.com/products/filter-candles-a-cartridges.html
 
 Luck  in  loads  to  you!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:53 am Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

 why  don't  you  post  one  clear  image  of  the  working  sump?
 
 the  effort  was  fantastic
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

                                                   
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Fine  Saurabh,
 
 Good  evening  atlast.  Smile  
 2  pics  for  your  reference  as  to  how  I  wanted  you  to  use  the  "Filter-candles"
 Hope  they  leave  you  with  ZerO  doubts  and  -1problems.
 
 PIC1:
 
 
 PIC2:
 
 
 They  surely  will  be  much-MUCh  economical  than  commercial  available  things.
 Just  take  care  to  buy  branded  stuff,  RAMA  does  give  you  good  thing(one  in  the  pic  from  top  filter),  one  of  cheap  quality  I  used  earlier  melted  away  in  canister.
 Few  required  links  for  ref.
 
 http://www.ramawaterfilter.com/wf.html
 http://www.faireyceramics.com/products/filter-candles-a-cartridges.html
 
 Luck  in  loads  to  you!!
 Good  night.                

 
 Sir,  Don't  such  candles  have  a  lot  of  calcium  in  them?
 
 What  do  you  guys  have  to  say  about  clinkers  that  are  formed  in  Industrial  boilers.
 These  clinkers  could  be  broken  into  small  pieces  and  then  used.  The  basic  component  of  clinker  is  silica  and  some  amount  of  carbon
 it  might  have  traces  of  iron  only  if  the  clinker  is  obtained  from  an  iron  foundry  otherwise  if  you  get  it  from  a  sugar  factory  boiler,  it  is  mostly  silica  and  carbon.  No  probs  in  that  I  think.  Confused??:
 
 
                                                 
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 why  don't  you  post  one  clear  image  of  the  working  sump?
 
 the  effort  was  fantastic
                 

 
 The  sump  is  between  the  aquarium  and  the  wall  behind  it.  So  image  could  only  be  clicked  from  top.  I've  already  posted  a  top  shot.
 The  background  of  my  tank  is  black  hence  the  working  could  only  be  viewed  from  top.
 I  don't  own  a  digicam,  I  used  a  roll  camera  to  shoot  the  whole  process  now  the  roll  is  finished,  would  be  buying  a  digicam  this  week,  then  would  certainly  post  a  better  shot.  Please  bear  in  between.
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 What  do  you  guys  have  to  say  about  clinkers  that  are  formed  in  Industrial  boilers.
 These  clinkers  could  be  broken  into  small  pieces  and  then  used.  The  basic  component  of  clinker  is  silica  and  some  amount  of  carbon
 it  might  have  traces  of  iron  only  if  the  clinker  is  obtained  from  an  iron  foundry  otherwise  if  you  get  it  from  a  sugar  factory  boiler,  it  is  mostly  silica  and  carbon.  No  probs  in  that  I  think.  Confused
                 

 
 Yes  I  agree  with  this  fully....  but  those  candles  are  also  worth  it,  many  people  in  our  colony  suggested  it,  but  I  am  not  quite  sure...  
 
 meanwhile  my  matten  filters  are  doing  good....  But  rest  assured  I  am  going  to  use  this  sump  idea  sooner  or  later  and  I  will  use  it  for  atleadt  2  tanks  together...the  idea  is  fantabulous  except  that  I  still  am  not  very  comfortable  with  the  powerhead  functionality  yet..  Unsure   Unsure   Unsure
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Working... Reply with quote

 man  u  TOTALLY  gave  me  an  idea  for  my  tank!  awesome  work  Saurabh!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Disaster... Reply with quote

 Guys  Here's  some  really  bad  news.
 It  was  a  great  folly  to  go  for  3mm  acrylic  instead  of  6mm.
 
 One  fine  morning  when  I  was  busy  working  in  my  office,  my  father  called  up  to  report  that  the  sump  has  ripped  off.
 All  my  drawing  room  was  flooded  with  water,  my  father  who  was  alone  at  home  at  that  time  has  to  wipe  out  aprrox  50-70  litres  of  water  from  our  house.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Disaster... Reply with quote

 hi  saurabh
 well  i  too  had  a  disaster......  Sad  
 my  no  nreturn  valve  got  chocked.......and  ma  room  was  flooded...this  is  the  first  time  in  3years....
 i  rectified  it  and  is  runnin  good  now  ,  it  has  been  only  3  months  since  my  marine  aquarium  was  converted  into  a  planted  and  the  first  disaster  Thumb Down  .......
 
 hoping  that  yo  got  it  rectified......good  luck
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Sump, Disaster... Reply with quote

 Should  have  stuck  with  glass...
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 Thats  bad  news  Sad  Do  you  intend  to  redo  the  whole  thing  with  glass?
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