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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  Hamza,
 
 You  are  right...   Thumb Up  
 
 By  yesterday  evening  all  the  eggs  had  been  cleared  and  everybody  moved  to  the  cave...
 
 Here  is  picture  of  the  mom  keeping  a  watch  on  the  cave....  today  morning  some  of  the  wrigglers  were  crawling  out  and  mama  was  taking  care  to  put  them  back  into  the  caves....
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 great  going!!!!
 
 Is  the  male  still  with  them?
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  Binesh,
 
 The  male  is  still  gaurding  the  place  big  time....  Today  morning  when  I  dropped  in  some  food  and  some  of  it  went  into  a  gap  not  accessible  for  the  fish...  so  I  tried  to  move  the  rock  a  little  so  that  he  could  access  the  food...  and  he  came  all  force  to  rip  my  finger...  this  is  the  first  time  I  am  seeing  him  do  that....  usually  he  backs  away  to  a  far  corner  when  my  hand  goes  into  the  tank...  
 
 One  thing  I  noticed  is  that  the  female  doesn't  allow  him  to  gaurd  the  cave  where  the  wrigglers  are....  she  is  the  one  who  stands  gaurd..  and  pushes  out  the  male  when  he  goes  very  close  to  the  cave...
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 thats  good  to  know....
 
 what  about  the  internal  filter?
 
 also  ....you  are  planning  to  keep  the  frys  in  the  same  tank?
 
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 Congrats  Ganesh.....Party  time   Drinking
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  Binesh,
 
 The  internal  filter  is  still  in  place  but  its  pumping  at  a  reduced  flowrate  of  ~600  lph  since  the  sponge  media  needs  cleaning...  also  the  nest  is  atleast  4  feet  away  from  the  filter....  thats  the  reason  why  the  filter  is  still  in  there.  Mudassir  (icecube)  was  telling  me  that  the  frys  need  some  gentle  flow  in  the  water  for  the  body  to  shape  up  properly...  So  I  am  confused  about  what  to  do  here?  Since  I  am  still  sitting  on  the  wall  not  knowing  which  side  to  jump....  I  went  to  the  store  and  got  a  sponge  filter  and  an  airpump.   Unsure  
 
 Another  confusion  is  if  I  move  the  fry  to  a  spare  tank,  the  pair  would  spawn  again.  What  am  I  going  to  do  with  so  many  Texas??   Smile  
 
 Since  the  tank  is  a  5  feet  in  size  I  am  wondering  if  the  frys  can  continue  to  stay  with  the  parents.  Maybe  a  partition?
 
 
 Hi  Kuna,
 
 Thanks  for  the  wishes.  The  congratulations  should  go  out  to  the  Texas  pair.  They  are  continuing  to  do  their  job  well  and  that  too  with  their  first  spawn.  Nature  continues  to  amaze  me.
 
 
 Thanks  again  for  all  your  replies...
 
 Cheers!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  ganesh,pls  tell  me  how  often  you  clean  the  tanks  since  the  time  you  knew  they  are  going  to  spawn.secondly  how  do  you  know  they  are  going  to  spawn.the  reason  is  i  have  around  25  chichilds  in  the  tank  and  i  would  like  to  learn.thanx
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Ganesh,
 on  filter  -  
 
 You  will  not  be  able  to  stop  the  frys  going  near  the  filter  and  i  am  sure  they  will  be  sucked  up  even  if  its  running  at  600  l/h....should  be  off  atleast  for  another  7  days  if  you  plan  to  keep  them  in  the  same  tank.
 
 if  you  are  confused  i  would  suggest  raise  some  of  them  in  a  separate  tank  and  leave  some  in  the  main  tank  with  the  parents.....
 
 you  will  continue  to  see  the  behaviour  of  the  parent  texas  (  i  am  sure  nature  will  amaze  you  again).....as  well  you  will  have  some  to  raise  on  your  own.
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  kkumar,
 
 Breeding  depends  a  lot  on  type  of  fish  you  have,  the  tank  setup,  tank  mates,  size  of  the  fish,  water  conditions.  Please  start  a  new  topic  thread  and  give  you  tank  details.  I  am  sure  the  experts  here  would  help  you  out.
 
 In  my  case  I  multiple  discussions  with  experienced  hobbyists  and  tried  to  make  my  setup  as  natural  as  possible  and  without  over  stocking.  My  water  change  regime  was  50%  every  10-12  days.  I  got  four  texas  when  they  were  like  2  to  2  1/2  inches  and  hoped  to  find  a  pair  in  them.  Eventually  a  pair  did  form  and  now  the  spawning.  Laila  had  brought  the  water  temperatures  down  and  four  days  before  that  I  had  made  a  water  change.  I  think  the  temperature  reduction  along  with  the  water  change  could  have  triggered  the  spawning.  But  this  might  not  work  for  the  type  of  fish  you  have.
 
 So  please  do  start  a  thread  and  you  would  for  sure  find  help.  The  key  to  a  good  setup  is  to  listen  to  the  experienced  folks  and  be  receptive  to  their  advice.  This  is  where  I  see  lot  of  newbies  making  a  mistake.   Smile  
 
 Hope  you  find  gold  soon...   Thumb Up  
 
 Cheers!!
 Ganesh
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hi  Binesh,
 
 I  would  remove  the  filter  and  put  the  sponge  filter  in  there.  Now  have  a  doubt.  If  the  fry  decide  to  take  a  swim  away  from  the  parents  wont  the  school  of  giant  danios  makes  merry.  I  am  sure  they  wont  allow  them  to  reach  as  far  as  the  filter.  Sad  
 
 The  problem  right  now  is  that  the  two  spare  tank  are  full.  One  has  a  school  of  10  serpaes  and  the  plecos  (removed  from  the  Texas  tank).  The  other  has  the  P.lalas  and  chromides  collected  from  the  Sunday  collection  trip.  
 
 Wifey  doesnt  want  me  to  give  away  the  tetras  nor  the  danios...   Thumb Down  
 
 Any  other  solution  in  this  present  scenario.  Can  I  keep  the  serpae,  P.lala  and  chromides  in  a  same  tank.  Then  the  plecos  can  go  back  to  the  main  tank  and  the  fry  can  come  to  the  spare  tank.
 
 Or  should  I  stay  away  from  all  this  and  see  how  Darwin's  theory  unfolds.
 
 
 
                                                 
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 you  will  continue  to  see  the  behaviour  of  the  parent  texas  (  i  am  sure  nature  will  amaze  you  again).....as  well  you  will  have  some  to  raise  on  your  own.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Binesh                

 
 Please  throw  more  gyaan  on  this  one.
 
 Thanks!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 SRK  anna,
 
 Let  them  be  with  the  parents  and  let  the  fittest  survive(avoids  sick  fellos).
 
 As  Saad  said  earlier,  you  arent  a  breeder  you  are  a  keeper  Thumb Up  so  enjoy  keeping  them.
 Cichlids  parenting  is  a  sight  man,  danios/any  fish  should  be  at  bay.
 
 Less  trouble  more  enjoyement  please!!
 
 Good  day.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Hello  Sai  thambi,
 
 I  too  feel  the  same  way  at  times...  want  to  sit  back  and  watch  how  they  handle  the  situation.  The  sponge  filter  thing  makes  sense  but  i  wonder  how  the  parents  are  going  to  take  care  of  the  babies  from  others.  Maybe  I  should  just  sit  back  and  watch  how  they  manage  the  situation  instead  of  acting  like  a  ring  master  and  controlling  the  happenings.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Texas Cichlid Spawned Reply with quote

 Ganesh,
 
 if  you  dont  have  a  spare  tank  then  let  them  be  in  the  main  tank....now  the  only  concern  is  Danios  in  the  same  tank....
 
 the  male  will  ensure  the  frys  dont  go  far....he  is  going  to  pick  them  from  his  mouth  and  drop  it  back  to  a  place  in  the  tank  which  he  consider  to  be  safe.....and  this  will  continue  whole  day....
 
 lets  see  what  happens.
 
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 Hi  Binesh,
 
 Right  now  the  parents  have  been  able  to  keep  everyone  else  at  bay...  that  includes  me  too...
 
 I  also  hope  that  the  male  would  ward  off  the  danios....  else  i  am  even  thinking  of  leaving  the  danios  back  into  their  habitat...
 
 Some  updates  from  today  evening...
 
 
 The  parents  have  camouflaged  themselves  into  ninja  assassins...
 
 
 
 You  can  see  the  wrigglers  appearing  as  a  grey  mass  in  the  pit  and  lot  more  in  that  cave...
 
 
 
 The  DIY  BBS  hatchery...  this  is  my  first  attempt  and  I  am  keeping  my  fingers  crossed...
 
 
 
 Tried  to  take  a  video  with  my  camera...  very  bad  resolution  and  also  like  a  manirathnam  movie  (shot  in  dark)...  Chuckle  
 The  initial  part  attempts  at  capturing  the  wrigglers....  in  the  later  half  you  can  see  the  alpha  attacking  my  finger  when  I  take  in  near  the  glass....  he  doesn't  want  anything  moving  within  one  feet  of  the  pit....
 
             
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 Thanks  again  for  all  your  replies...
 
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 Hello  all,
 
 Update  from  today  evening  is  that  all  the  frys  are  free  swimming  now...  there  are  LOTS  and  LOTS  of  them  in  pit  and  they  are  slowy  starting  to  move  out  of  the  pit  and  spread  over....  the  mama  fish  is  trying  to  get  them  back  into  the  pit....  The  first  feed  was  egg  yolk  mixed  well  in  water...  took  it  with  the  help  of  a  tube  and  syringe  and  released  it  near  the  frys....
 
 Since  the  frys  have  decided  to  start  moving....  I  am  a  little  worried  if  they  would  wander  far  away  in  the  5  feeter  and  parents  would  lose  track  of  them...   Confused  
 
 today  morning  the  danios  were  removed  from  the  tank....  so  the  tank  is  left  with  just  the  parents  and  their  frys...  also  added  a  sponge  filter  has  replaced  the  powerhead...  
 
 Cheers!!
 Ganesh
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