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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 turles  are  an  avatar  of  lord  vishnu,he  helped  devtas  become  immortal  by  becoming  this  avatar,  turtles  was  stupidusly  thought  of  as  a  bad  luck  because,  in  ancient  india  which  relied  on  rains  for  its  crops,  we  have  terrapins  the  leather  terrapin  that  digs  up  into  soft  and  miost  soils  if  it  runs  out  of  water
 
 if  farmers  came  across  this  in  their  irrigated  dry  areas,  they  would  run  out  of  the  land  because,  they  were  frightened  of  water  in  their  near  by  lake  has  gone  dry  and  their  wells  would  follow,  
 
 what  would  have  that  poor  terrapin  would  know  its  just  surviving  its  calamity  of  shortage  of  water!!!,  so  it  was  seen  as  an  indicator  of  draught,
 so  people  got  frightened  of  it  and  percieved  it  as  bad  luck,
 
 but  today  we  have  dams  that  supplies  with  water  for  us  till  the  end  of  that  river  or  when  humans  die  out  as  a  species,
 
 but  seriously  watching  turles  behaviuor  gives  u  patience,calmness,brilliance,the  knowledge  to  stay  out  of  trouble,  it  has  the  same  characters  as  mentioned,  so  what  more  can  u  ask  for  go  and  acquire  one
 
 ther  is  a  village  near  tumkur  where  they  have  turtles  running  all  around  the  village  and  if  it  enters  one  house  they  are  worshipped  and  then  sent  away,
 i  think  turltes  bring  u  good  luck  rather  than  bad  luck,  its  just  stupid  to  listen  to  superstitions,  that  one  wise  guy  innovates  because  he  has  fill  his  stomach  and  his  families,  
 
 this  superstitious  teacher  brings  u  more  bad  luck,  if  u  belive  in  stupid  superstions  your  on  the  road  to  selfdestruction,  if  u  dont  your  on  the  way  to  selfrealization  and  happiness.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 Who's  the  member  who  often  types  in  CAPS  and  uses  the  word  HELL?
 
 Edit:  ^^  Thanks  for  the  edits.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 All  I  can  say  is  if  they  bite  you,  you  will  be  very  very  unlucky   Chuckle
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 actually,  the  turtle  is  sharing  the  aquarium  with  a  Short  body  flower  horn  (fengshuish  item  !!!!  i  guess)
 its  separated  by  a  glass  divider......
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 Again,  in  which  part  of  India  you  are  all  in.
 
 In  Tamilnadu  they  say  this  "Aamai  pukuntha  veedu"   (House  where  'turtle'   entered.  -  which  is  wrong  interpretation)  
 
 But  I  hope  its  not  the  meaning,  in  one  film  Vivek  has  answered  this,  this  "Aamai  is  not  turtle  but  -  Kallamai,  illamai,   and  many  similar  ammai's  and  not  turtle)
 
 Diseases  from  pets  -  Yes  true  from  all  pets,  if  you,  dont  take  care  of  it.  Even  without  any  pets  if  we  dont  keep  our  houses  clean,  we  can  get  problems  with  the  dust.
 
 Lucky  or  Unlucky  is  in  what  you  think  and  not  with  any  other  things.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 NOthing  related  to  luck  or  something.  How  I  got  my  turtle  was  because  some  vastu-guy  came  to  my  place  and  he  suggested  few  things..  One  of  them  was  to  get  a  turtle  and  keep  it  in  the  'north'  corner  of  the  house,  whatever  the  north  corner  means.  So  anyway,  the  same  day  my  cousin  got  me  one.
 
 I  have  gotten  quite  attached  to  it,  and  I  can't  say  there  is  anything  lucky  or  unlucky  with  it.  been  15  months.  And  to  hell  with  north  corner!
 
 From  what  I  have  read  on  the  internet,  if  you  are  willing  to  buy  turtle  for  fengshui  purpose,  then  most  likely  it  is  the  green  turtle  thing  which  can't  be  housed  no  way,  or  keeping  a  turtle  ornament  lol
 
 The  only  fengshui  argument  for  fish-keeping  I  am  willing  to  buy  is  to  keep  your  fish-tank  near  the  main  entrance  gate  (sitting  room,  or  whatever).  Because  fish  never  sleep,  and  hence  that  will  keep  the  'ill'/negative  energy/  whatever  from  coming  in  your  home.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 No  body  can  change  your  Destiny.   Smile  
 Keeping  any  pet  is  good  or  Lucky  for  you  as  u  can  pass  your  Time  easily,  they  wont  demand  anything  from  you  like  your  girlfriend,kids,servant  etc.What  these  animals  want  is  Love   some  food.In  our  India  a  cage  bird  Parrot  tells  the  Future.  Now  you  have  seen  an  octopus  named  Paul  was  predicting  the  future  of  Football  Shocked  
 Superstition  all  over  the  globe...
 
 Anyways  why  do  you  want  an  amphibian  as  your  Pet???
 Wash  your  hands  properly  after  you  touch  your  terrapin  as  terrapins  carry  a  kind  of  bacteria  called  "Salmonella  spp"  which  can  give  you  diarrhoea.  
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

                                                   
Junior7  wrote  (View  Post):                
.In  our  India  a  cage  bird  Parrot  tells  the  Future.  Now  you  have  seen  an  octopus  named  Paul  was  predicting  the  future  of  Football  Shocked  
 Superstition  all  over  the  globe...                

 
 
 
 yeah...it  was  unbeliveable  but  i  guess  he  was  just  lucky  nothing  eles
 
 now  back  to  the  topic
 
 STOP  being  so  superstious!!!!
 all  these  are  just  stupid  beliefs!!!  .....  how  can  a  poor  animal  change  your  luck!!!.....  i  always  wonder  how  the  hell  500  years  back  Chinese  wrote  that  flowerhorns  are  lucky?...at  that  time  was  there  a  concept  of  hybrids??  i  dont  think  so...  this  all  cause  illiteracy  nothing  else
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 Guys,  I  kept  4  RES  in  my  house  and  they  were  pretty  amazing  animal  to  keep  and  I  was  very  happy  to  keep  them  but  i  must  admit  they  grow  big  (4  of  mine  went  big  as  1ft  and  there  were  no  place  at  my  house  to  keep  those  big  4  and  moreoevr  i  was  moving  out  of  Bangalore  So  I  donated  them  in  the  Bannerghatta  National  Park  in  Bangalore.They  have  a  big  enclosure  for  RES  and  anyone  in  Bangalore  can  still  go  and  visit  them.They  are  very  happy  and  doing  quIte  well).
 
 The  feeding  was  very  interesting  and  I  used  feed  them  turtle  food,  green  veg,  boiled  meat,  chicken,  calcium  tablet  dust,  boiled  egg,  fruits  and  live  fish  (after  quarantine  the  fish  for  atleast  week)  and  what  not  and  sometimes  I  used  to  feed  them  live  cricket  as  well  they  used  be  very  happy  and  used  to  eat  food  from  my  hand  and  I  still  miss  them  a  lot   Sad  .
 
 The  LFS  people  will  tell  you  that  they  will  not  grow  but  the  fact  is  the  size  is  1t  or  more  if  they  grow  with  healthy  diet  and  one  has  to  be  very  careful  to  accomodate  them  in  a  small  enclosure  as  well...I  used  to  keep  them  in  a  3ft  Aquarium  and  made  it  in  such  a  way  that  they  can  access  the  water  and  the  sand  and  dry  area  simultaneouely....My  electricity  bill  was  little  high  as  per  the  extra  light  i  need  to  put  on  for  them.If  you  want  I  can  share  the  tank  plan  with  the  forum.
 
 I  strongly  suggest  reading  about  them  200%  before  even  you  bring  them  at  home  and  you  should  not  be  surprised  and  think  once  you  have  trouble  with  them.I  must  suggest  to  read  the  disease  and  problems  that  your  RES  may  faced.Everyone  likes  to  see  the  animal  healthy  but  one  should  be  prepared  to  face  when  they  are  not  well  too.
 
 Be  careful  about  the  infection  and  wash  your  hand  everytime  you  handle  them.They  were  never  unlucky  to  me  and  i  kept  them  for  3  years  and  still  i  had  plans  to  keep  them  once  again  as  they  make  great  pets  and  Karthik  Contact  me  if  you  need  any  help  or  suggestion  you  may  need  to  take  care  of  them  and  I  will  be  happy  to  answer.  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 I  have  one  ..  and  I  cannot  any  lucky  or  unlucky  event  due  to  it  ..  but  yes,  it  gets  big  and  messy.  Keep  only  if  you  can  care  ....  I  want  to  donate  mine  ...  any  takers?   Do  the  Bannerghatta  Park  guys  still  accept  RES?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 YES  Pradeep  they  have  a  separate  enclosure  for  RES  and  a  separate  for  tortoise.You  can  go  talk  to  them  and  donate  yours  if  you  want.  The  problem  is  when  they  grow  big  and  you  cannot  reallly  keep  them.  Good  idea  to  donate  them  there  at  BNP  and  donot  release  them  in  the  nearby  water  bodies  as  they  are  not  natural  habitat  for  them  and  the  local  fauna  and  flora  will  be  destroyed.
 
 Let  me  know  if  you  need  any  help.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 i  ahve  turtles...
 9  turtles...
 6  are  red  eye  slider..
 2  are  marsh...
 1  is  *turtle....
 i  dont  think  they  wer  unlucky...
 marsh  are  with  me  frm  4  yrs...  where  as  RES  sar  with  me  frm  2  yrs,  n  *  is  frm  last  6  month...
 i  have  6  tank  in  ma  house  in  which  2  are  for  marsh  n  res  respectively...  n  *  roams  in  house...
 they  are  quiet  lucky  4  me...  i  cnt  stay  away  frm  them


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 There  is  no  way  Turtles  can  be  unlucky......
 
 All  animals/Birds/amphibians/reptiles/fishes  are  lucky.......  Its  the  Humans  who  are  unlucky.
 
 Dude,  you  want  the  turtle,  then  go  buy  it.....But  ensure  that  you  provide  good  care  for  it.  They  are  tough  to  handle  in  the  long  term.
 
 As  to  ease  your  Elder's  superstition,  tell  them  as  per  Hindu  Mythology.....  Lord  Vishnu  had  taken  the  form  of  a  turtle  to  save  earth......  and  Lord  Shiva  has  a  turtle  .........Check  out  any  shiv  temple.
 
 If  the  Gods  don't  think  it  as  Unlucky....why  listen  to  humans?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 Hey  guys,
 
 Am  not  against  turtles  but  I  guess  you  shouldknow  this.
 
 Most  native  turtles  and  tortoises  are  highly  endangered  and  protected  under  the  Wildlife  Act  1972.  Some  of  them  are  even  'Schedule  I'  which  makes  them  'unfit'  to  be  pets.  
 
 Red  eared  sliders  are  ok  as  they  are  exotic  but  other  native  turtles  be  careful.  I  had  a  friend  who  had  a  indian  flap  shell  turtle  for  a  few  months  but  I  adviced  him  to  release  it  back  into  the  wild  and  he  did  it.
 
 They  are  not  unlucky  but  let  us  not  break  rules  Thumb Up  
 
 Following  are  a  few  Shedule  I  species  which  is  better  to  steer  clear
 
 Terrapin  (Batagur  basika)
 Eastern  Hill  Terrapin  (Melanochelys  tricarinata)
 Ganges  Soft-shelled  Turtle   (Trionyx  gangeticus)
 Kerala  Forest  Terrapin  (Hoesemys  sylratica)
 Peacock-marked  Soft-shelled  Turtle  (Trionyx  hurum)
 Spotted  black  Terrapin  (Geoclemys  hamiltoni)
 Sail  terrapin  (Kachuga  Kachuga)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Turtles - Lucky / Unlucky Reply with quote

 I  cmpletely  agree  with  Marc.  
 Let  us  not  buy  the  endangered  species  of  turtles  or  tortoeise  and  encourage  the  poaching  of  them  from  their  wild  habitat.This  is  against  the  WildLife  Protection  act  and  above  mentioned  are  the  list  of  them  to  stay  away  from.
 
 I  request  for  all  the  TURTLE  KEEPERS  as  the  turtles  are  going  to  grow  big  and  donot  leave  the  turtles  in  the  environment  if  they  are  not  the  native  for  that  area  and  it  is  better  to  give  them  away  to  the  Zoo  or  to  the  animal  shelters.
 
 RES  are  really  small  when  you  buy  them  and  they  are  really  adorable  but  they  grew  1ft  each  in  my  case.
 So  please  be  well  equipped  with  the  knowledge  before  u  buy  one  from  the  local  LFS.
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