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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Iggy,
 I  should  say  -  You  are  doing  a  great  job!  Not  me  I  mean  your  dedication  for  the  subject  inspires  me  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: Aphanius dispar in Uttara Kannada or Karnataka?? Reply with quote

 Hi  Aquascapes,
 It  is  my  lunch  break.    Rather  than  sitting  in  the  coffee  room  having  a  chat,  I  am  carrying  on  with  the  search.
 
 I  have  just  noted  from  the  paper  that  you  put  on  the  forum  that:
 Aphanius  dispar  dispar  in  India
 Comments:  Found  in  Uttara  Kannada,  Karnataka  (Ref.  45204);  common  in  Gujarat  and  Rajasthan  (Ref.  45255).  Recorded  from  Kutch  (Ref.  41236).  
 
 So  I  need  to  follow  up  the  Uttara  Kannada,  Karnataka    connections.
 
 Are  there  any  aquarist  in  Uttara  Kannada  or    Karnataka  willing  to  help?
 
 All  the  best,
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 Dear  Iggy,
 You  can  check  with  'ASK'  -  check  the  thread  on  the  aquarium  fish  exibition  or  something  at  this  link
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2592#20978
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: Apahanius in India Reply with quote

 Here  are  the  rest  of  the  references  from  Master  Index  of  Freshwater  Fishes
 
 Ref  45204:  Found  in  Uttara  Kannada,  Karnataka:    Bhat,  A.,  2000.  Fish  germplasm  inventory  of  Sharavati,  Aghanashini,  Bedti  and  Kali  rivers,  Uttara  Kannada..  p.  148-151.  In:  Ponniah,  A.G.  and  A.  Gopalakrishnan  (eds.)  Endemic  Fish  Diversity  of  Western  Ghats.  NBFGR-NATP  Publication.  National  Bureau  of  Fish  Genetic  Resources,  Lucknow,  U.P.,  India.  1,347  p.
 
 Ref  45255:  Common  in  Gujarat  and  Rajasthan:    Kapoor,  D.,  R.  Dayal  and  A.G.  Ponniah,  2002.  Fish  biodiversity  of  India..  National  Bureau  of  Fish  Genetic  Resources  Lucknow,  India.775  p.
 
 Ref  41236:  Recorded  from  Kutch:    Menon,  A.G.K.,  1999.  Check  list  -  fresh  water  fishes  of  India..  p.  234-259.  Rec.  Zool.  Surv.  India,  Misc.  Publ.,  Occas.  Pap.  No.  175,  366  p.
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 I  have  not  seen  the  original  papers  yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: Aphaneus dispar in Karnataka Reply with quote

 Dear  Trevor  (Planted  Nut),
 Hopefully  you  have  seen  some  of  the  Forum  discussions  on  Aphaneius  dispar  under  native  Indian  Fish.
 
 I  just  found  a  paper  that  suggests  that  this  killifish  is  also  found  in:
 Ref  45204:  Found  in  Uttara  Kannada,  Karnataka:    Bhat,  A.,  2000.  Fish  germplasm  inventory  of  Sharavati,  Aghanashini,  Bedti  and  Kali  rivers,  Uttara  Kannada..  p.  148-151.  In:  Ponniah,  A.G.  and  A.  Gopalakrishnan  (eds.)  Endemic  Fish  Diversity  of  Western  Ghats.  NBFGR-NATP  Publication.  National  Bureau  of  Fish  Genetic  Resources,  Lucknow,  U.P.,  India.  1,347  p.
 (Master  Index  of  Freshwater  Fishes)
 
 I  was  hoping  that  you  and  the  Aquarist  Society  of  Karnataka  might  have  suggestions  on  how  to  proceed?
 
 Look  forward  to  hearing  from  you.
 
 All  the  best,
 Iggy
 
 
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 Just  as  a  reminder  as  what  Aphanius  dispar  dispar  looks  like:
 
 
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 Disappointment  as  no  replies  as  yet  from  Aquarist  Society  of  Karnataka.
 
   Help  Please.
 
 Meanwhile  check  out  this  great  site  for  Native  Indian  Fish:  http://www.fish.mongabay.com/data/India.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Aphaneus in Karnataka? Reply with quote

                                                   
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Disappointment  as  no  replies  as  yet  from  Aquarist  Society  of  Karnataka.
 
   Help  Please.
 
                 

 Hi  Iggy,
           You  could  contact  some  experts  at  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A-s-k/
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 Thanks  Trevor,
 I  will  try  that  later  today.
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 Amazingly,  I  have  tracked  down  A.  Bhat,  the  Indian  scientist  who  reported  that  Aphanias  dispar  was  found  in  Uttara  Kannada,  Karnataka:  
 Bhat,  A.,  2000.  Fish  germplasm  inventory  of  Sharavati,  Aghanashini,  Bedti  and  Kali  rivers,  Uttara  Kannada..  p.  148-151.  In:  Ponniah,  A.G.  and  A.  Gopalakrishnan  (eds.)  Endemic  Fish  Diversity  of  Western  Ghats.  NBFGR-NATP  Publication.  National  Bureau  of  Fish  Genetic  Resources,  Lucknow,  U.P.,  India.  1,347  p.
 (Master  Index  of  Freshwater  Fishes)  
 
 I  am  currently  awaiting  a  reply.
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 Sandeep  raghuvanshi  an  active  member  of  IAH  is  from  Lucknow  PM  him  for  help!
 Hey  Iggy  you  have  a  long  life!
 I  was  just  reading  your  mail  Chuckle
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 Hi  Iggy
 
 I  am  Sunil  from  Ahmedbad,  Gujarat.  I  have  seen  this  killie  fish  being  sold  in  a  local  fish  shop  about  a  year  back.  They  are  all  wild  caught  and  are  seasonal.  I  have  known  this  fish  since  the  last  8  years  and  even  tried  keeping  them  once.  They  are  very  aggresive  towards  other  fish  and  are  fin  nippers.  I  have  seen  them  being  sold  as  marine  fish  and  living  very  well  in  marine  tanks  too.  The  movement  of  this  fish  is  very  fast  and  they  keeping  shivering  which  may  make  you  think  that  they  have  some  kind  of  ich  or  body  fungus.  Very  easy  to  keep  and  they  accept  all  kinds  of  foods.  
 
 Will  try  and  ask  the  fish  shop  if  they  can  get  some  but  to  my  knowledge  they  come  from  north  west  part  of  Gujarat  specially  the  sea  coast  side  where  i  believe  they  live  in  brackish  waters.
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 Hello  Sunil,
 That  is  really  great  news  to  hear  that  the  Indian  Aphaneus  dispar  killifish  is  available  from  time  to  time  at  your  local  fish  shop  in  Ahmedbad  and  that  you  have  actually  kept  these  fish  in  your  tank.
 What  is  the  name  of  the  local  fish  shop?
 
 I  haven’t  personally  kept  this  fish  and  so  am  not  familiar  with  their  behaviour  such  as  quick  movements,  shivering,  and  aggressive  behaviour.
 
 Perhaps  Herman  Meeus  can  comment  on  this  behaviour  as  he  is  familiar  with  several  species  of  Aphaneus.
 
 I  do  understand  that  they  can  live  in  both  brackish  water  and  fresh  water.
 It  is  interesting  that  they  are  also  being  sold  as  marine  fish.    
 Perhaps  that  is  because  one  can  charge  a  higher  price  for  marine  fish.
 What  is  the  cost  per  fish  in  the  shop?
 
 If  you  have  a  digital  camera,  perhaps  you  could  be  kind  enough  to  take  a  picture  of  the  Indian  Aphaneus  dispar  killifish  at  the  shop  and  post  it  on  this  forum.
 
 Look  forward  to  hearing  more  about  this  Aphaneus  killifish  from  you  very  soon.
 
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 Sunil  Please  be  kind  and  let  me  know  the  shop's  name  -  I'll  take  care  of  the  formalities!
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 Hi  all,
 
 I  am  Heman  and  in  fact  the  one  who  "infected"  Iggy  in  the  search  for  this  Aphanius  dispar  in  Gujarat  ....    Many  thanks  to  all  of  you  for  having  put  that  much  effort  in  the  search  for  this  Indien  species  !
 
 Indeed  all  the  populations  of  Aphanius  dispar  that  I  have  show  this  "nervous"  behaviour.    They  swim  arround  constantly  and  are  allways  after  the  females.    There  too  it  seems  as  if  they  are  agressive  towards  them.    If  you  happen  to  have  several  males  and  only  a  few  females  in  the  
 tank,  the  males  pay  more  attention  to  other  males  and  less  to  the  females,  thus  few  eggs.    They  eat  very  much.
 
 For  the  research  it's  important  to  know  where  the  fishes  come  from.    The  name  of  the  village  and,  if  known,  the  name  of  the  river  or  water  body.    As  these  fishes  have  been  put  out  in  nature  for  malaria  control  it's  also  important  to  know  if  the  population  is  "original".      For  he  research  at  the  university  the  populations  of  Joruun  and  Lodaj  (in  the  north  west  of  Gujarat)  are  the  most  desired.
 
 Once  again  many  thanks  and  keep  up  the  good  work  ....
 
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