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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 @  Gatrox
 
 I  have  lyretails  &  dispars  .  They  dont  accept  dry  food.  Need  to  be  fed  on  frozen  artemia  &  blood  worms  atleast  twice  a  day.
 
 Also  have  long  tentacle  anemones,  they  keep  moving  however  hard  you  try  to  fix  them  in  a  place.
 
 I  had  hermit  crabs  and  they  toppled  my  zooans  often.
 
 This  is  based  on  my  experience.
   
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

                                                   
gremlin  wrote  (View  Post):                
lol,  you  are  the  most  patient  hobbyist  ever  known.......lol                

 
 Are  you  indirectly  calling  me  LAZY     Whip  
 
 Na  man  i  am  not  that  Patient  it's  just  that  I  have  done  a  few  mistakes  in  the  past  do  to  impatients  and  well  now  I  am  trying  to  do  things  right.
 
 
                                                 
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 @  Gatrox
 
 I  have  lyretails  &  dispars  .  They  dont  accept  dry  food.  Need  to  be  fed  on  frozen  artemia  &  blood  worms  atleast  twice  a  day.
 
 Also  have  long  tentacle  anemones,  they  keep  moving  however  hard  you  try  to  fix  them  in  a  place.
 
 I  had  hermit  crabs  and  they  toppled  my  zooans  often.
 
 This  is  based  on  my  experience.
   
 KS
                 

 
 Well  I  have  heard  the  that  anthis  are  were  troublesome  I  will  have  to  cinsider  it  carefully.
 
 And  the  Animone  well  I  know  that  but  the  thing  is  I  have  a  weekness  for  a  Rose  buble  animone   so  i  really  wanna  put  that  in  my  tank  for  sure   as  for  my  crab  selection  they  seem  to  be  very  small  and  from  what  i  have  read  they  are  pretty  reef  safe  and  unlike  hermits  these  are  true  carbs  and  from  what  I  have  read  they  are  pretty  small  to  do  too  much  damage  if  any
 pleas  let  me  know  if  you  know  something  otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Well  in  my  experience,  Dispar  anthias  eat  Hikari,  NLS  and  cyclop  eeze..
 
 As  for  anemone's,  i've  never  had  any  problems  with  bubble  tips,  they  don't  sting  any  corals...
 
 
 And  crabs,  i've  only  kept  porcelain  crabs,  really  cool  filter  feeders..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

                                                   
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As  for  anemone's,  i've  never  had  any  problems  with  bubble  tips,  they  don't  sting  any  corals...                  
 
 
 I  will  have  to  disagree  on  that.  I  don't  think  any  coral  will  stand  a  chance  whe  touched  by  an  anemone.  The  problem  with  them  is  as  long  as  the  water  condition  is  great  they  will  stay  in  the  same  place.  The  moment  there  is  posphates  in  the  water  they  will  start  to  move  and  anything  they  touch  is  dead.  
 
 Anthias  will  eat  anything  that  is  small  and  will  fit  in  their  mouth,  but  they  have  to  be  fed  3  or  4  times  a  day  cause  they  have  short  digestive  system  and  they  are  used  to  eating  zooplankton  all  day  long  in  the  wild.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Well,
 
 I  have  one  bubble  tip  that  sits  in  between  a  colony  of  zoas..  And  I've  never  had  them  roam  around  too  much  to  cause  any  problems..  The  others  sit  right  amongst  my  other  corals  and  the  tentacles  touches  them..  Never  have  stung  any  corals...  
 
 And  i  did  have  a  lot  of  phosphates  somewhere  around  1.90  and  now  its  dropped  down  to  about  0.36  when  i  checked  a  month  back..
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Hi  Vipul,
 
 Comments  on  your  fish  list:
 
 Naso  Tang  ---  Good  fish,  grows  big,  increases  bioload
 Purple  Tang  ---  Good
 Yellow  Tang  ---  Marine  Staple
 Blue  Hippo  Tang  ---  Once  settled,  very  tough.  Got  one  thats  7  years  old  now
 Copperband  Butterfly  ---  Leave  for  later
 Yellow  Wrasse  ---  No  experience
 Cleaner  Wrasse  ---  Would  recommend  picking  up  a  feeding  specimen,  and  will  eat  tiny  pellet  food
 Midas  Blenny  ---  Have  one,  find  it  a  bit  too  aggressive
 Blue/Green  Chromis  ---  Great  to  start  off  with
 Anthias  ---  Have  5  local  anthias,  fed  ONCE  a  day.  Eat  any  pellet  that  fits  in  their  mouth.  Keep  more  than  one.  Behave  like  chromis  once  settled.  
 Fire/Purple  fish  ---  Very  docile,  don't  advise
 Flame  angle  ---  Beautiful,  but  wait  for  complete  cycle
 Emperor  Angle  ---  Not  with  anemones
 Queen  Angle(hopefully  if  in  budget)  ---  "ditto"
 Green  Spotted  Mandarin  ---  If  you  get  a  feeding  specimen,  or  have  a  running  full  blown  reef,  OK
 Psychedelic  Mandarin  ---  "ditto"
 Bangaii  Cardinals  ---  Nice
 Pyjama  Cardinals  ---  Nice
 Ocellaris  Clown  ---  Nice,  but  remember  that  when  people  vist,  they  will  forget  all  other  fish  and  go  "NEMO,  NEMO,  NEMO!"
 Rose  Bubble  Nem  ---  Very  nice,  if  you  can  get  one,  never  kept
 Green  Bubble  Nem  ---  Never  kept
 Spine  Urchin  ---  Hmm...  dunno  haven't  though  about  this...ever!
 Serpent  Stars  ---  Get  a  few  of  these  
 Sally  Light  Foot  Crab  ---  Where  from???
 Porcelin  Crab  ---  Nice
 Nassarius/Astrea/Stomella  Snails  ---  Astreas  are  crazy  diatom  algae  eaters,  but  they  seem  to  just  refuse  to  move  onto  aragonite  sand  IME.  Stoms  seem  useless  IME  
 Cleaner  Shrimp  ---  Good  choice
 Fire  Blood  Shrimp  ---  Even  better  choice,  have  2
 Coral  banded  Shrimp  ---  Don't  like,  personal  opinion
 
 I  know  you've  spent  a  lotta  time  on  this,  but  trust  me,  get  it  wet.  When  I  do  tanks,  this  is  my  typical  approach,
 1.  Choose  size,  build  tank
 2.  Make  stand
 3.  Add  basic  equipment
 4.  Fill  with  h20
 
 Cabinetry  and  what  not  comes  months  later...  Its  a  constant  process  and  you'll  find  yourself  upgrading  pretty  often.
 
 From  your  stocklist,  seems  that  you  wanna  go  FOWLR.
 
 My  opinions:
 If  FO:  Knock  yourself  out  with  whatever  fish  you  want
 If  FOWLR:  Big  ones  are  fine
 If  Reef:  Smaller  fish
 
 Good  luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Vipul,
 
 Comments  on  your  fish  list:
 
 Naso  Tang  ---  Good  fish,  grows  big,  increases  bioload
 Purple  Tang  ---  Good
 Yellow  Tang  ---  Marine  Staple
 Blue  Hippo  Tang  ---  Once  settled,  very  tough.  Got  one  thats  7  years  old  now
 Copperband  Butterfly  ---  Leave  for  later
 Yellow  Wrasse  ---  No  experience
 Cleaner  Wrasse  ---  Would  recommend  picking  up  a  feeding  specimen,  and  will  eat  tiny  pellet  food
 Midas  Blenny  ---  Have  one,  find  it  a  bit  too  aggressive
 Blue/Green  Chromis  ---  Great  to  start  off  with
 Anthias  ---  Have  5  local  anthias,  fed  ONCE  a  day.  Eat  any  pellet  that  fits  in  their  mouth.  Keep  more  than  one.  Behave  like  chromis  once  settled.  
 Fire/Purple  fish  ---  Very  docile,  don't  advise
 Flame  angle  ---  Beautiful,  but  wait  for  complete  cycle
 Emperor  Angle  ---  Not  with  anemones
 Queen  Angle(hopefully  if  in  budget)  ---  "ditto"
 Green  Spotted  Mandarin  ---  If  you  get  a  feeding  specimen,  or  have  a  running  full  blown  reef,  OK
 Psychedelic  Mandarin  ---  "ditto"
 Bangaii  Cardinals  ---  Nice
 Pyjama  Cardinals  ---  Nice
 Ocellaris  Clown  ---  Nice,  but  remember  that  when  people  vist,  they  will  forget  all  other  fish  and  go  "NEMO,  NEMO,  NEMO!"
 Rose  Bubble  Nem  ---  Very  nice,  if  you  can  get  one,  never  kept
 Green  Bubble  Nem  ---  Never  kept
 Spine  Urchin  ---  Hmm...  dunno  haven't  though  about  this...ever!
 Serpent  Stars  ---  Get  a  few  of  these  
 Sally  Light  Foot  Crab  ---  Where  from???
 Porcelin  Crab  ---  Nice
 Nassarius/Astrea/Stomella  Snails  ---  Astreas  are  crazy  diatom  algae  eaters,  but  they  seem  to  just  refuse  to  move  onto  aragonite  sand  IME.  Stoms  seem  useless  IME  
 Cleaner  Shrimp  ---  Good  choice
 Fire  Blood  Shrimp  ---  Even  better  choice,  have  2
 Coral  banded  Shrimp  ---  Don't  like,  personal  opinion
 
 I  know  you've  spent  a  lotta  time  on  this,  but  trust  me,  get  it  wet.  When  I  do  tanks,  this  is  my  typical  approach,
 1.  Choose  size,  build  tank
 2.  Make  stand
 3.  Add  basic  equipment
 4.  Fill  with  h20
 
 Cabinetry  and  what  not  comes  months  later...  Its  a  constant  process  and  you'll  find  yourself  upgrading  pretty  often.
 
 From  your  stocklist,  seems  that  you  wanna  go  FOWLR.
 
 My  opinions:
 If  FO:  Knock  yourself  out  with  whatever  fish  you  want
 If  FOWLR:  Big  ones  are  fine
 If  Reef:  Smaller  fish
 
 Good  luck!                

 
 MAN  THANKS  A  LOT
 I  am  truly  happy  that  someone  took  the  time  to  respond  to  my  query  in  such  detail
 As  you  can  see  I  am  still  pretty  much  a  Novis  in  this  side  of  the  hobby  
 your  suggestion  is  very  very  helpfull
 kindly  if  you  dont  mind  PM  me  your  number  so  that  I  can  call  you  and  thank  you
 If  you  dont  mind  that  is.
 
 also  to  clarify  the  thing  with  thw  wood  work   and  all  before  is  because  of  polish  and  painting  
 I  am  pretty  sure  that  no  matter  how  much  ever  carefull  i  am  
 the  chemicles  would  be  introduce  in  the  water  and  then  it  will  be  harmfull
 I  have  the  basic  equptnment  now  i  think   I  just  need  the  chiller  
 and  yet  my  Aim  for  the  start  is  FOWLR  
 but  in  like  4  months  i  intend  to  graduate  to  REEFFFFF
 
 BTW  You  are  from  bombay  right     Gator  X  has  a  ROSE  BUBBLE  TIP  for  sale  I  think,just  thought  i'd  let  you  know.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Well  if  that  was  my  tank  i  would  either  go  for  any  of  these
 
 Predatory:
 
 Volitan  Lionfish
 Antennta  Lionfish
 Radiata  Lionfish
 Zebra  Moray  Eel
 Blue  Spotted  Stingray
 One  of  the  smaller  cat  sharks
 and  a  Miniatus  Grouper
 
 OR
 
 Angelfish  Tank
 
 Queen  Angelfish
 Emperor  Angelfish
 Blue  Face  Angelfish
 Blue  Girdled  Angelfish
 Regal  Angelfish
 Asfur  Angelfish
 and  the  Flagfin  Angelfish..
 
 
 
 Or  
 
 You  could  go  for  a  mixed  FOWLR
 
 Green  Chromis
 Maldives  Lyretail  Anthias
 Bi-colour  Blenny
 Midas  Blenny
 Lawnmower  Blenny
 Zebra  Barred  Dartfish  
 Purple  Dottyback
 Bangaii  Cardinals
 Spotted  Cardinalfish
 One  Spot  Foxface
 Longnose  Hawkfish
 Harlequin  Tusk  Wrasse  -  Might  not  be  compatible  with  the  other  fish
 Yellow  Wrasse
 
 As  for  tangs:
 Yellow  Tang
 Regal  Tang
 Powder  Brown  Tang
 Powder  Blue  Tang
 
 
 With  a  tank  of  that  size  you  have  endless  choices  where  fish  are  concerned,  you  just  have  to  decide  what  fish  you  want  and  make  changes  according  to  it...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Geez,  insomnia  is  a  bitch!!!
 
 No  problem,  if  you  have  a  plan  on  stepping  up  to  a  reef  soon  or  in  the  next  year  or  even  later,  go  as  per  the  mixed  FOWLR  recommendation  as  listed  above  by  GatorX.
 
 Thanks  for  the  tip  on  RBTA,  but  I'm  not  really  into  anemones.....  Dunno  why  actually?  They  can  be  pretty  nice...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 @  Vipul,
 
 Everyone  starts  with  a  FOWLR  and  the  addiction  of  adding  new  fishes  never  stops.
 
 It  is  painstaking  to  tear  down  the  complete  set  up  to  catch  the  fishes.  IMO  ,  Traps  are  not  very  useful  when  you  want  to  get  the  fishes  out  .  So  be  careful  while  selecting  the  fishes  as  the  time  taken  to  convert  a  FOWLR  to  a  reef  tank  is  very  minimal  as  you  will  always  be  tempted  to  add  few  beginner  corals  and  this  keeps  continuing  .  Smile  
 
 Most  of  the  hobbyists  who  claim  to  start  with  a  FOWLR  and  upgrade  to  a  reef  will  always  be  experimenting  with  corals   Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:14 am Post subject: The carpenter came finally Reply with quote

 The  cover  is  almost  finished.
 Now  just  the  opening  functions  have  to  be  done  
 finished  polishing        Cheering  
 
 tell  me  what  you  think  guys   Rock On
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Amazing,  it  was  worth  the  time  you  spent  on  it.  Now  let  us  talk  fishes  :)
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 Vipul  do  some  justice  to  it,  click  pictures  at  night  with  all  the  lights  on   and  rooms  lights  closed.  I  am  sure  it  will  look  a  certain  stunner...  On  a  personal  note,  wouldnt  have  a  black  polish  looked  better  than  woody  look  ...Its  too  brown  and  woody  for  me.  However  i  am  not  certain  of  your  room  interiors  though....  looking  forward  to  being  in  nagpur  soon  and  getting  this  tank  up  and  running  ..  Diwali  launch  ???
 
 Warm  Regards
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

 I  agree  with  Nirav,  do  post  some  better  shots.
 
 As  of  now,  I  love  the  exterior  more  than  the  interiors.  Goodluck  on  future  developments!  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Tank as of now Reply with quote

                                                   
Hamza  wrote  (View  Post):                
I  agree  with  Nirav,  do  post  some  better  shots.
 
 As  of  now,  I  love  the  exterior  more  than  the  interiors.  Goodluck  on  future  developments!  Thumb Up                

 
 
 
   Sad      u  dont  like  the  inside  ????
 
 but  thanks  that  you  like  the  woodwork
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