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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Hi  friends,
 
 After  an  extended  hiatus  I  am  back  to  meddling  with  aquariums.  This  time  the
 planted  aquarium  bug  has  bitten  me.  I  didn't  want  a  hi-tech  set  up  and  have
 chosen  to  start  off  with  some  less  demanding  and  hardy  variety  of  fauna  that's
 easy  to  maintain.
 
 So  what  I  have  as  of  now  is  just  one  glass  tank  60"  X  18"  X  18"  (approx  85
 gallons  /  315  lts)  that  I  have  filled  with  2"  layer  reddish  brown  aquarium
 gravel  (3  -  5  mm  size)  over  a  thin  layer  (less  than  1  cm)  of  red  soil.
 
 I  haven't  yet  filled  water  in  the  tank.  Have  been  sprinkling  just  enough  to  keep
 the  gravel  moist.
 
 For  lighting  I  have  4  nos.  Philips  truelite  4ft  tubelights  36W  6500  K
 
 Also  have  2  nos.  submersible  filters  of  chinese  make.  At  least  the  info  on  the
 packing  claims  to  filter  @  700  lts  per  hr.
 
 No  CO2  and  no  fertilisers.
 
 Am  expecting  my  plants  to  arrive  in  a  day  or  two.
 
 Hopefully  the  supply  will  consist  of  the  following  plants.  All  suggested  by
 another  more  experienced  planted  tank  buff  I  met  on  the  Net.
 
 Anubias  Barteri  1  no.
 Anubias  Nana  1  no.
 Cryptocoryne  Sp  Retrospiralis  20  nos.
 Echinodorus  Amazonicus  -  Small  5  nos.
 Echinodorus  Parvifloris  5  nos.
 Echinodorus  Tennelus  20  nos.
 Eichhornia  Diversifolia  5  nos.
 Hygrophila  Difformis  5  nos.
 Hygrophila  Polysperma  "Green"  5  nos.
 Hygrophila  Polysperma  "Variegated"  -  Red  5  nos.
 Hygrophilla  Angustifolia  5  nos.
 Hygrophilla  Guyanensis  5  nos.
 Hygrophilla  Corymbosa  5  nos.
 Hygrophilla  Corymbosa  "  Compacta"  (  Dwarf  )  5  nos.
 Microsorium  Pteropus  -  Windelov  (12  ~  15  Leaves  In  A  Bunch)  1  no.
 Microsorium  Pteropus  Ordinary  (10  Leaves  In  A  Bunch)  1  no.
 Microsorium  Pteropus  Narrow  Leaf  1  no.
 Microsorium  Pteropus.Wrinkled  Leaf  1  no.
 Sagittaria  Sp.  (Dwarf)  20  nos.
 
 Now  I'll  let  you  into  a  secret.  The  impressive  sounding  botanical  names  I've
 rattled  off  above  are  thanks  to  the  cut  &  paste  facility  of  Win  XP  and  must  not
 be  attributed  to  my  knowledge  of  aquarium  fauna.  Its  going  to  fun  connecting  the
 names  to  the  plants  when  the  supply  does  reach  me.  So  that's  the  extent  of  my
 knowledge  and  experience  with  planted  tanks.
 
 Looking  forward  to  help  and  guidance  from  friends  on  the  forum  to  make  a  success
 of  my  venture.  But  please  don't  push  me  into  adopting  any  hi-tech  equipment  or
 paraphernalia,  at  least  until  I  see  some  success  with  a  low  tech  set  up.
 
 Will  post  pics  of  progress  as  and  when  it  happens.
 
 Regards,
 
 Raja.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Sounds  exciting..
 
 waiting  for  the  pictures
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Hi  Raja,
 
 Waiting  for  the  pics...   Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 OH  WOW  !  Thumbs Up  
 
 IAH  is  living  up  to  its  reputation  as  THE  most  happening  aquarium  forum.  The  'enthu'  is  always  at  a  high.
 I'm  just  as  excited  as  you  guys  but  as  I  said  in  my  post,  the  tank  is  just  loaded  with  substrate  and  waiting  for  the  plants  to  arrive.  I'm  told  the  plants  will  reach  me  by  Friday.  Hope  the  courier  guys  come  out  and  deliver  on  Diwali  day   Huh  
 
 So  the  only  pics  I  can  post  now  will  be  that  of  my  tank  with  just  the  substrate.  Ok,  I'll  post  that  pic  tomorrow,  just  for  the  record.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 waiting  for  set  up  to  start  Cheer
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Please  upload  the  pics  as  and  when  you  finish  planting  your  aquarium.
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 All  The  Best  Friend  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Hi  friends,
 
 For  a  change  everything  worked  as  planned  and  my  planted  tank  was  ready  for  Diwali  !
 
 You  can  see  all  pics  at  http://picasaweb.google.com/kollamraja/85G315Lts60X18X18PlantedAquarium#5536000883479538018
 
 No  CO2  now  but  am  toying  with  the  idea  of  installing  a  DIY  CO2  set  up  using  sugar  &  yeast.  Not  sure  about  the  proportion  of  water  /  sugar  /  yeast.  Can  someone  help  with  the  right  proportion  for  a  2  ltr  pepsi  bottle?
 
 I'll  like  to  once  again  remind  you  that  I'm  a  novice  at  this  and  any  help,  suggestion  or  guidance  will  be  highly  appreciated.
 
 Raja.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Raja
 Good  attempt!!!  Nice  collection  of  plants  you  have.   I  liked  your  idea  of  using  the  stones  to  make  a  retaining  wall  in  order  to  create  another  level.  This  is  something  that  I  should  try.
 
 
 I  noticed  from  the  photos  that  the  stand  that  you  are  using  does  not  have  a  top  sheet  to  support  the  entire  base  of  the  tank.  Am  I  correct?  You  have  also  used  pieces  of  thermocol  instead  of  a  complete  sheet.  This  would  add  multiple  stress  points  across  the  base.   I  do  not  know  the  thickness  of  the  bottom  glass  but  I  recommend  the  use  of  a  1  inch  plywood  +  complete  thermocol  sheet  between  the  stand  and  the  tank  bottom.
 
 85  gallons  of  water  on  the  floor  of  your  room  would  not  be  a  pretty  sight  in  case  the  bottom  glass  decides  to  give  way.
 
 Just  my  two  paise..
 
 Regards,
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Hi  rraja
 
 Very  beautiful............It's  really  commendable  the  way  u  have  arranged  the  stones........
 
 Nice,  v'll  have  to  wait  n  see  how  well  it  does  in  a  months  time.........keep  updating  the  pics.........  Clapping  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 @Anish  @JackOfAllTrades:  Thanks  for  the  encouragement.  I  hope  the  tank  gives  me  reason  to  smile  a  month  down  the  line....
 
 
 
                                                 
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 I  noticed  from  the  photos  that  the  stand  that  you  are  using  does  not  have  a  top  sheet  to  support  the  entire  base  of  the  tank.  Am  I  correct?  You  have  also  used  pieces  of  thermocol  instead  of  a  complete  sheet.  This  would  add  multiple  stress  points  across  the  base.   I  do  not  know  the  thickness  of  the  bottom  glass  but  I  recommend  the  use  of  a  1  inch  plywood  +  complete  thermocol  sheet  between  the  stand  and  the  tank  bottom.
                 

 
 Opinion  is  divided  on  the  ideal  support  for  the  base  of  a  tank.  There  is  a  school  of  thought  that  promotes  the  idea  of  giving  support  at  equal  intervals  along  the  base  rather  than  one  continuous  support.  I'm  not  knowledgeable  enough  to  explain  the  actual  physics  but  as  in  the  case  of  buildings  or  bridges,  the  load  is  distributed  to  the  base  through  points  of  support.  The  places  where  you  see  the  thermocol  are  the  places  where  there  is  a  steel  support  across  the  stand.
 
 I  hope  somebody  will  throw  more  light  on  this  topic  here.
 
 In  the  mean  time,  I  hope  someone  will  guide  about  my  query  on  the  proportion  of  water/sugar/yeast  for  setting  up  a  DIY  CO2  feed  in  a  2  ltr  Pepsi  bottle.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 Hi  Raja,
 Below  links  to  set  up  DIY  co2  and  has  the  measurements  as  well
 
 http://www.plantedtank.net/articles/DIY-Yeast-CO2/7/
 http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/diy-aquarium-projects/14453-diy-co2-guide-pictures-recipes.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

 I  would  agree  with  'JackOfAllTrades'  (sorry,  would  have  preferred  to  use  your  name  if  you  had  mentioned).
 
 If  you  had  atleast  posted  a  snap  of  the  tank  setup  before,  lot  of  people  would  have  suggested  the  same.  The  present  way  might  work,  but  will  definitely  have  more  chances  of  cracking.  You  seem  to  have  spent  quite  a  bit  of  money  and  effort  into  it  and  it  would  be  a  painful  experience  if  something  happens.  I  had  my  65gallon  tank  leak  out  once  because  of  a  goofup  i  made  and  it  was  not  a  pretty  sight  (thank  god  no  one  was  home  Smile  )  
 
 Best  thing  is  to  have  plywood  sheet  and  thermocol  over  the  whole  base.  This  way,  the  weight  will  be  evenly  distributed  over  the  whole  surface  area.
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Raja
 I  noticed  from  the  photos  that  the  stand  that  you  are  using  does  not  have  a  top  sheet  to  support  the  entire  base  of  the  tank.  Am  I  correct?  You  have  also  used  pieces  of  thermocol  instead  of  a  complete  sheet.  This  would  add  multiple  stress  points  across  the  base.   I  do  not  know  the  thickness  of  the  bottom  glass  but  I  recommend  the  use  of  a  1  inch  plywood  +  complete  thermocol  sheet  between  the  stand  and  the  tank  bottom.
 
 85  gallons  of  water  on  the  floor  of  your  room  would  not  be  a  pretty  sight  in  case  the  bottom  glass  decides  to  give  way.
 
 Just  my  two  paise..
 
 Regards,                

 
 Thanks  to  you  and  some  others  who  expressed  similar   opinion,  I  have  filled  up  the  spaces  with  additional  support.  This  is  the  best  I  could  do  and  appears  adequate.  I'm  now  able  to  sleep  better   Very Happy  
 
 Have  also  added  a  DIY  CO2  set  up  (2  units).  All  plants  seem  to  be  taking  hold.  However  I'll  have  to  wait  and  see  if  the  Echinodorus  Tennelus  and  Sagittaria  Sp.  (Dwarf)  in  the  foreground  take  hold  as  well.
 
 You  can  see  the  video  of  the  CO2  fed  into  the  tank  through  the  power  filters.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Setting up a 85 gallon planted aquarium from scratch Reply with quote

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