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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 I  have  been  battling  with  BBA  in  my  tank  for  the  past  6  months.
 
 Tank  size:  15  gallons
 Lighting:  2.5  watts/gallon
 Fertilizers:  DIY  fertilizers  once  a  week  after  50%  weekly  water  change
 CO2:  DIY  CO2  system
 
 I  think  that  CO2  fluctuation  is  the  cause  of  the  BBA,  since  DIY  CO2  gives  good  amount  of  gas  for  the  first  few  days  and  then  after  4  days  there  is  a  decrease  in  the  rate  of  bubbles.  Also  at  2.5  watt  per  gallon  i  think  a  high  concentration  of  CO2  is  needed.
 
 What  will  happen  if  I  reduce  the  lighting  to  1  watt/gallon.  Will  the  plants  grow  and  will  the  BBA  starve?
 
 Is  there  any  other  solution  to  this  problem  can  I  fix  it  permanently?
 
 What  will  happen  if   I  give  high  lighting  and  no  CO2  system  at  all?   
 
 Regards,
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 What  plants  do  you  have?  
 what  do  you  mean  by  DIY  fertilizer?
 What  substrate  do  you  have?
 where  is  the  BBA  growing?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 I  am  not  the  right  person  to  answer  this  query,
 On  the  other  hand  if  you  had  worded  it  as  "BBA  experts  need  your  input  with  regards  to  planted  tanks"  i  would  have  qualified  eminently   Chuckle  
 
 
 How  do  you  filter  the  tank?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Walter
 
 Tackling  BBA  is  very  difficult.  Please  take  the  following  steps...
 
 Use  a  double  dose  of  Flourish  Excel  daily  (  or  Glutaraldehyde  )  for  a  week  and  BBA  should  disappear.  (  This  is  a  temporary  soln.  )
 
 A  permanent  soln  to  stop  it  re-growing...
 
 Use  more  stem  plants  which  are  fast  growing.  They  use  up  most  of  the  excess  Phosphates  and  Nitrates  in  the  tank.
 Reducing  the  light  is  not  the  soln.  
 Dosing  a  small  quantity  every  alternate  day  of  Macros  and  Micros  is  better  than  a  higher  dose  once  a  week.
 If  you  have  too  many  fish,  reduce  them  and  feed  them  Micro  pellets  which  will  stay  afloat  for  a  long  time.  This  will  help  you  to  determine  the  quantity  of  food  that  is  really  required  for  your  fish  and  wastage  will  be  reduced  leading  to  less  phosphates  in  the  tank
 Remove  any  dying  or  decaying  leaves  from  the  tank  manually.
 For  the  time  being  change  50%  water  every  alternate  day  till  you  get  rid  of  the  algae
 
 You  can  give  high  light  and  use  flourish  excel  instead  of  DIY  CO2  in  the  long  term.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Hi  ,
      I  have  a  write-up  of  my  experiences  at  controlling  BBA  in  my  tanks.
 You  can  find  it  in  my  blog    HERE
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 try  adding  shripms..  it  really  worked  for  me,,  I  added  100  red  cherry  's  for  my  4  ftr..  its  clean  now.u  can  keep  things  in  control  
 
 http://simontay78.com/aquartic/trying-out-new-experiment-to-get-rid-of-bba-black-bush-algae/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

                                                   
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try  adding  shripms..  it  really  worked  for  me,,  I  added  100  red  cherry  's  for  my  4  ftr..  its  clean  now.u  can  keep  things  in  control  
 
 http://simontay78.com/aquartic/trying-out-new-experiment-to-get-rid-of-bba-black-bush-algae/                

 
 Pradeep,  did  not  know  that  RCS  can  control  BBA.  Never  read/heard  of  it  before.  Are  you  sure  of  this  ?!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

                                                   
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try  adding  shripms..  it  really  worked  for  me,,  I  added  100  red  cherry  's  for  my  4  ftr..  its  clean  now.u  can  keep  things  in  control  
 
 http://simontay78.com/aquartic/trying-out-new-experiment-to-get-rid-of-bba-black-bush-algae/                

 
 Pradeep,  did  not  know  that  RCS  can  control  BBA.  Never  read/heard  of  it  before.  Are  you  sure  of  this  ?!                

 
 
 check  the  link  i  have  attached..  it  really  works  .  they  even  eat  all  the  dead  leaves  n  prevent  algae  growth.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Type  of  algae                   Cause                                                                                                   Solution
 Black  Beard  Algae  (BBA)               Low  CO2                                       Add  CO2,  trim,  spot  treat  with  Excel
 Blue  Green  Algae  (BGA)            Low  nitrate                                                           Blackout  +  add  nitrate
 Cladophora                                       Low  nitrate  +  Low  CO2                                                     Add  nitrate,  add  CO2
 Diatoms                                   Excess  silicates,  Low  light                           Wait,  add  catfish,  use  RO  water/sponge
 Green  Dust  Algae  (GDA)                    Spores                                       Wait  out  life  cycle,  remove  +  WC
 Green  Spot  Algae  (GSA) Low  phosphate  +  Low  CO2?                       Add  phosphate,  possibly  add  more  CO2
 Green  Water  (GW)      Ammonia  +  high  light                              Reduce  light,  Wait,  Small  WC,  UV  filter
 Hair  Algae                                      Excess  nutrients,  silicates                          WC,  Excel,  feed  less,  is  something  limited?
 Hydra                                          Stowaway  in  live  food                          Use  cleaner  live  food,  flubendazole,  H2O2
 Milky  Water                                                  Bacteria  bloom                                                     Wait  out,  protect  filter,  add  fish  slowly
 Staghorn                                          Ammonia  +  low  CO2                                       Remove,  WC,  protect  filter,  Excel
 String  Algae                                                Excess  nutrients                                               WC  +  get  biofilter  working
 I  hope  the  above  information  helps  you.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Try  with  Glutaraldehyde  ..........it  works  for  me.....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 do  regular  water  changes,donot  have  lots  of  fish,heavy  planting  that  too  fast  growing  stems  helps  absorb  excess  nutrients  and  waste,have  lots  of  shrimps,
 
 manually  remove  bba  wherever  it  grows,  have  an  eheim   or  any  other  canister  filter,get  an  co2  pressurized  system,  and  if  u  dont  have  mosses
 buy  one  siamese  algae  eater  it  will  eat  all  the  bba,and  also  clean  the  filter  once  every  month,
 
 but  it  is  always  a  war  ,  there  is  no  permanent  solution,  it  can  propogate  in  air  itself,all  u  can  do  is  restrict  it
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 Hey  Guys,
 
 Looks  like  everyone  has  forgotten  the  good  old  SAE  Smile   (Siamese  algae  eater)
 
 Its  one  of  the  few  fishes  that  can  digest  BBA,  and  loves  to  gorge  on  it!  Thats  what  i  have  been  using  for  a  long  time!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hey  Guys,
 
 Looks  like  everyone  has  forgotten  the  good  old  SAE  Smile   (Siamese  algae  eater)
 
 Its  one  of  the  few  fishes  that  can  digest  BBA,  and  loves  to  gorge  on  it!  Thats  what  i  have  been  using  for  a  long  time!                

 As  batman  mentioned,  you  cannot  have  SAE  if  u  have  moss  in  your  tank
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Planted Tank Experts need your Input with regards to BBA Reply with quote

 waltee  fihing  very  firstly  give  more  details  of  you  aqua  fauna  as  mentioned  by  preeth  
 its  not  about  doing  something  blindly  or  taking  a  kneejerk  reaction  all  guys  who  have  replied  here  are  experienced  guys  passed  thru  such  phase  
 so  if  we  have  more  info  some  one  can  guide  you
 start  from  substrate  because  BBA  is  a  big  problem  I  have  defeated  it  you  can  also  do  it
 few  images  of  my  set  up
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/emmanuel.nalli/Aquagarden#
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 Guys,  Happy  New  Year!
 
 Thanks  for  all  your  inputs,  I  was  on  x'mas  holidays  just  got  back  3  days  back  and  i  had  a  leaking  tank  so  got  a  bit  busy.
 
 as  asked  for  more  details.  
 
 I  have  a  Laterite  Substrate  with  River  sand,  flora  I  have  Vallisneria  spiralis,  Amazon,  oval  ludrwigilpedi,  Bacopa  caroliniana,  Egeria  densa  and   Dwarf  sagitaria  
 
 BBA  id  growing  all  over  the  place  on  substrate  as  well  as  leaves.
 
 I  use  K2SO4,  KNO3,  KH2PO4  and  microsol-2  to  dose  once  every  week
 
 steps  taken  have  reduced  lighting  to  4  hours  per  day.
 
 thanks  
 
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