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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 I  am  confused  with  the  biotope  tanks.  I  am  seeing  many  persons  doing  biotope  tank,  and  the  basic,  if  not  the  whole,  formula  is  the  same..
 
 some  nice  driftwoods,  some  jackfruit  leaves,  low  pH,  peat  moss  or  tea  licker,  low  light,  slight  brownish  looking  tank,  add  with  these  some  java  ferns/anubias/crypts  and  some  neon/harlequin,  it's  ready.
 
 How  did  we  maintain  the  biotope  if  in  all  the  cases  the  ingredients  r  same?  I  planned  for  Sunderban  biotope  once,  had  some  talk  with  Bappada,  it's  really  difficult  I  felt.
 
 
 Btw,  someone  having  biotope  tanks  dont  feel  bad,  I'm  just  curious  for  sunderban  biotope.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 @  tiger,  Biotope  setup  is  nothing  but  keeping  fish  in  the  same  setup  that  they  would  have  been  in  the  wild.  Not  all  biotope  setup  need  almond  leaves  or  drift  wood  with  moss.
 
 Suppose  you  want  a  biotope  setup  of  palar  river  (close  to  chennai)  you  just  need  some  river  sand  and  pebbles.
 
 For  a  sunderbans  setup  you  will  need  some  branching  driftwood  to  simulate  mangrove  roots,  and  soil  substate  and  most  important  put  fish  like  archerfish,  Lutjanus  sp.,  Terapon  sp,  Scatophagus  argus  or  other  brackish  water  fish.  A  baril  or  a  garra  would  look  out  of  place.
 
 Am  not  an  expert  on  biotope  setups  but  I  guess  this  would  start  you  up.  Take  a  look  at  Nayaks  fish  room  thread  he  has  a  few  nice  biotopes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:07 am Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 Agree  with  Marc.
 
 
                                                 
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I  am  confused  with  the  biotope  tanks.  I  am  seeing  many  persons  doing  biotope  tank,  and  the  basic,  if  not  the  whole,  formula  is  the  same..
 
 some  nice  driftwoods,  some  jackfruit  leaves,  low  pH,  peat  moss  or  tea  licker,  low  light,  slight  brownish  looking  tank,  add  with  these  some  java  ferns/anubias/crypts  and  some  neon/harlequin,  it's  ready.
                 

 
 You  wouldnt  do  all  that  if  it  had  to  be  an  African  rift  lake  biotope  setup,  where  it  requires  almost  no  plans  and  no  tea  water  at  all.
 
 A  setup  that  fancies  a  collection  of  organisms  pertaining  to  a  specific  ecosystem(and  ofcourse  the  decorative  mateiral  counts  too),  thats  what  a  biotope  setup  is.  If  a  certain  plant  doesnt  exists  in  the  particular  biotope  you  like  to  portray,  then  theres  no  point  calling  it  one.  If  it  does,  then  its  ruled  out  from  being  a  biotope  tank....Simple.  
 
 Some  people  go  for  a  general  continental/area  theme(like  Asian  biotope/African  biotope/Indian  biotope),  where  homogenous  fishes  from  various  water  bodies  in  that  specific  area  are  used.  These  setups  are  accepted  as  general  biotope  setups.
 
 The  second  type  are  specific  location  wise  setups,  these  are  considered  to  be  more  authentic  type  of  setups  and  are  sought  after  by  true  enthusiasts.
 
 Goodluck  with  your  neighborhood  Sundarban  setup.  All  you  need  is  a  dedicated  research  and  a  few  collection  trips...keep  us  updated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 Nayak,
 Liked  your  classification  of  the  three.....makes  sense.  
 Avik,  the  Sunderbans  biotope  is  still  a  challenge  than  others  mainly  because  of  the  tide  simulation!  I  personally  feel  for  otther  biotopes  (BW,  East  Asian,  African,  Amazon  etc)....with  the  right  mix  of  plants  and  hardscapes  it  can  be  given  that  natural  look.  The  water  parameters  are  more  about  attaining  stability  (not  too  much  PH  and  temp  fluctuation).  However,  with  Sunderbans,  that  has  extreme  salinity  for  half  the  day  and  low  salinity  for  the  remaining  half,  it  isa  major  challenge!  
 
 A  brackish  setup  would  be  the  next  best  thing  but  it  wont  exactly  be  a  biotope.  
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  guys  for  your  detailed  replies.
 
 Can  one  keep  those  special  breathing  roots(locally  called  "sulo",  forget  the  eng  word)  of  the  mangroves  underwater?  Or  will  they  rot  over  time?  
 
 And  what  about  the  high  tide,low  tide  processes?How  to  maintain  this?

 
 I  am  not  in  a  stage  now  to  make  one,  but  have  a  future  plan  for  sunderban  biotope,  having  few  mudskippers  as  well.  How  could  u  miss  them  guys?
 
 So  these  brownish  water  biotope  tanks  are  in  fashion  now.  U  could  see  the  rocks,fine  sand  biotopes  very  few.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 Those  r  the  inspiration:
 
 
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Biotope tank Reply with quote

 Avik,
 I  will  be  in  Calcutta  between  20-23rd  Jan.  How  about  meeting  up  one  day  and  discussing  Sunderbans  biotope   Smile  ?
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Avik,
 I  will  be  in  Calcutta  between  20-23rd  Jan.  How  about  meeting  up  one  day  and  discussing  Sunderbans  biotope   Smile  ?                

 
 Also  mail  me  the  details  of  Sunderban  biotype.  No  words  to  explain  the  beauty.  Bappa  da,  develop  a  Sundarban  biotype  aquarium  and  I  will  sure  follow  u.
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Those  r  the  inspiration:
 
 
 
 
                 

 
 Are  those  woods  of  "Sundri"  or  any  other  plant.
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 I  am  still  working  out  the  details  in  my  mind.  I  have  a  10X2X2  tank  at  the  terrrace  where  I  can  try  these  things......the  fluctuating  salinity  of  water  is  what  that  is  bothering  me.  Getting  driftwoods,  plants  and  even  some  livestocks  isn't  much  of  a  problem.  Lets  see
 
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I  am  still  working  out  the  details  in  my  mind.  I  have  a  10X2X2  tank  at  the  terrrace  where  I  can  try  these  things......the  fluctuating  salinity  of  water  is  what  that  is  bothering  me.  Getting  driftwoods,  plants  and  even  some  livestocks  isn't  much  of  a  problem.  Lets  see
 
 Bappa                

 
 I  have  also  a  36X18X18  empty  tank  and  reserving  for  this  biotype.  Throw  away  the  idea  to  setup  a  reef  tank.  No  any  information  on  internet  but  you  guys  can  make  a  deep  research  in  Sunderban  biotype.
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 Bappada,  sure.  In  fact,  last  time  I  was  at  Tirthada's  place,  I  inquired  about  u,  but  u  were  busy  searching  something..,  I  forgot  the  joke   Very Happy  
 
 For  me  woods  are  the  main  problem,  the  fishes  can  manage  the  constant  salinity  I  think.
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For  me  woods  are  the  main  problem,  the  fishes  can  manage  the  constant  salinity  I  think.                

 
 Go  to  Henry  Island  and  pick  up  the  woods  as  many  as  you  want.  You  don't  have  to  get  'Sundari'  roots  or  Shulo  to  make  that  biotope.
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 Avik,
 Woods  you  will  get  plenty....we  just  meed  to  find  out  which  ones  sink  and  which  dont!  Btw,  Sundari  cant  be  found  or  used...there  are  some  woods  which  we  can  bring  and  not  banned,  the  rest  we  cant.  Let  discuss  these  at  a  length  when  we  meet
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 Sure  captain,  Tirthada  wanna  join  us  @Misra's?
 
 Bappada,  we  can  arrange  a  meet  with  some  kolkata  hobbyists  as  well,  if  u  want.  Will  carry  the  conversation  in  PM.
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