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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Biotope  aquarium  affords  some  measure  of  creativity  but  no  imagination  !
 Imagination  could  very  easily  be  a  hallucination,  so  let's  cut  that  out.  
 
 Then  call  it  a  biotope,  I'll  accept  that  with  all  the  short  comings.                

 
 I  guess  that  sums  up  a  lot.  Good  example  I  take  from  this  very  thread........branched  sticks  being  used  to  mimic  mangrove  roots.  I  guess  that  is  creativity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 [quote="Marc";p="228083"]                                                  
madhu_ulysses  wrote  (View  Post):                
                                                 
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 ¬†For  eg,  I've  seen  gachuas  and  Killies  co-exist  in  the  same  biotope  in  the  wild  and  we  all  know  what  happens  when  they  both  end  up  in  the  same  tank.                

 
 Well  said  Madhu  Thumb Up  
 
 None  of  us  thought  that  angle.....I  dont  think  anybody  can  make  a  C.  gachua  and  A.  parvus  live  together  in  a  tank..........whatever  be  the  setup.  But  actually  they  happily  live  everafter  in  the  wild  Smile                

 
 That  is  one  very  good  point,  I  have  gone  to  the  extent  of  keeping  swordtails  with  Viejas  and  what  happened  is  anybodys  guess  Chuckle  
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Marc  I'll  accept  that,  but  PVC  pipes  don't  masquerade  for  caves  !  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Yup.......accepted  in  good  spirit  Thumb Up  .  Actually  I  meant  mangrove  roots  made  out  of  PVC  Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Wait  until  nayak  posts  more  pics  of  his  close  to  100%  biotope  tank.
 I  guess  that  will  be  tomorrow  !
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Hey  guys,  A  paper  on  the  concept  of  Biotope  http://www.uff.br/ecosed/EcoMar1.pdf
 
 Gives  some  good  information   Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Guys,  kindly  do  not  ask  embarrassing  questions  to  Mr.  Heiko.  He  is  a  proven  fish  explorer  around  the  world  and  documents  his  work  brilliantly  too.  Such  critic  questions  to  him  will  keep  him  away  from  valued  discussions  and  we  need  experts  like  him.
 
 Regarding  the  species  query  in  Bihar,  after  all  Heiko  is  a  human  too.  Some  LFS  could  have  mislead  him  with  a  wrong  location  name.  Trade  games,  you  all  know!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Biotope- Concept and implementation! Reply with quote

 Someone  emailed  a  link  referencing  my  Youtube  clip  and  this  thread  asking  if  I  have  better  images  of  those  fishes.
 
 FYI,  that  clip  was  taken  with  an  old  cam  under  a  low  lighting.  Here  are  some  clearer  shots  of  the  discus.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I  have  2  or  3  Satanoperca  lilith  in  the  same  tank  and  2  were  doing  well  but  one  just  don't  seem  to  gain  weight  and  waste  away.
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 Nice  pics  Ben.  Heckels  are  right  at  the  top  of  my  favourites  list.
 
 My  attempt  at  a  Myotope  tank  for  the  Angels.
 
 
 Would  be  interested  in  Heikos  opinion  on  whether  these  are  true  Altum  Angels.
 
 
 Sand  from  East  Coast  Road,  Rocks  from  our  garden,  Driftwood  from  Malaysia?  and  even  a  PVC  pipe  from  a  local  hardware  store  Thumb Up  
 Other  inhabitants  are:
 Corydoras  sterbai  -  Brazilian
 Corydoras  panda  -  Peruvian  and  prefer  cooler  waters
 Hemigrammus  rhodostomus  -  ¬†Orinoco  river?
 Hyphessobrycon  herbertaxelrodi  -  Brazilian
 Ancistrus  sp.  -  Widely  distributed  in  SA.
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Here  are  some  clearer  shots  of  the  discus                

 Nice  Heckels,  Ben.
 Only  the  fish  in  second  pic  seem  to  have  sunken  forehead  &  body.  But  that  is  normal  with  these  WC  fish  as  they  travel  long  distance  with  parasites.  Me  too  had  one  chap  with  similar  sunken  forehead,  after  deworming  things  improved  a  bit  but  not  upto  my  expectations.  Later  I  gave  that  fish  to  someone  informing  him  the  fact.  All  the  heckels  with  me  now  have  nice  curvy  &  thick  foreheads  similar  to  your  other  heckels.  Smile  
 
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 Now.....where  was  I?  Ah  yes.....the  Biotope  tank   
 
 Sorry  for  the  delay......did  a  lot  of  things  since  my  last  post  till  now.  Took  Customers  for  dinner  too.  So  you  can  guess....  Chuckle  
 
 
 The  Location.....
 
 
 
 
 The  Inspiration....A  creek(  Actually  this  is   the  Tunga  river  much  before  she  joins  Bhadra  and  becomes  the  formidable  Tungabhadra  river)
 Dated:15-May-2010
 
 
 
 Three  parts  of  a  creek...
 1)  The  shallow  cascades
 Dated:15-May-2010
 
 
 
 2)  The  calmer  cove
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 3)  The  deep  waters,  with  slower  currents
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 To  be  contined.....
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 Intention....To  create  a  part  of  this  creek  .
 Length  to  recreate-  10  meters  or  30  feet
 Consists-  fast  current(Cascade),  slow  current(depths)  and  very  slow  current(Cove).
 
 
 Observations......
 
 Overall  creek-
 High  Oxygen  lever
 Cool,  probably  around  25  degrees  Centigrade  average
 
 The  Cascade-
 Substrate-Rocky.
 Waterflow-  High.
 Fauna-  Barilius,  osteochilicthys,  Loaches-S.denisonii,  S.semiarmatus,  N.anguilla
 Flora-None
 Algae-None
 aufwuchs-None
 Length-Around  20  feet  of  the  intended  30  feet.
 
 
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 Observations....
 
 The  Cove
 
 Substrate-Rocky  and  with  rough  gravel.  
 Waterflow-  Very  slow.  
 Fauna-  P.fasciatus,P.sahyadrensis,  Garra  mullya,  osteochilicthys,  Loaches-S.denisonii,  S.semiarmatus,  Unidentified  Schisturs  sp.,  N.anguilla,  N.stigmofasciatus
 Flora-Drifting  weeds,  specially  Hydrilla.  Strangely  no  leaf  litter!  
 Algae-Rocks  covered  with  algae.  Very  slippery.  
 aufwuchs-Rocks  and  gravel  covered  with  aufwuchs  at  dead  spots,  Where  there  was  no  water  currents  at  all.  Saw  a  lot  of  Fry's  here.  Like  a  nursery  
 Temperature-  water  was  a  bit  warmer,  around  28  degrees.
 Length-To  the  side  of  cascade,  around  10ft.  
 
 Catching  fishes  in  the  Cove.
 Dated:15-May-2010
 
 
 Studying  the  Biotope.  I  do  not  think  anyone  can  study  the  Biotope  any  more  closer  or  minutely  than  this!  Chuckle  
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 We  had  been  there  to  the  same  spot  with  Madan.  This  picture  is  by  Madan,  and  I  hope  I  have  his  permission  to  post  it  here  Very Happy
 Dated:11-April-2009  
 
 
 A  catch  from  the  Cove.  Check  the  substrate  in  the  Photography  tank.  That  is  in  Situ  substrate!
 Dated:15-may-2010
 
 
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 Observations....  
 
 The  deep  waters  
 
 Substrate-Gravel  and  sand.  
 Waterflow-  Medium.  
 Fauna-  Osteochilicthys  sp.,  Filamentosus  complex  sp.,  Garra  mullya.
 Flora-None.  
 Algae-Green  water.  Visibility  was  very  poor.
 aufwuchs-Aufwuchs  near  the  bank.  Fishes  too  where  all  adults!
 Temperature-  water  was  the  coolest  here.  About  24  degrees.
 Length-Around  10feet.  
 
 We  were  not  very  much  interested  here.  Too  deep  to  see  or  catch  anything!  Might  be  with  Marc's  cast  net?  Very Happy  
 
 
 
 Next:-  THE  PLAN
 
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