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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Hello  All,
 
 Please  HELP  me  in  my  dilemma.  Some  background,  I  just  got  a  new  Width:  48"  (121.92cm)  Height:  24"  (60.96cm)  Depth:  18"  (45.72cm)  350L  or  90G  tank  last  week  and  I  am  cycling  water  in  it(got  dolphin  canister  filter  with  ceramic  rings  and  no  carbon).  I  have  another  small  tank  2x1x1  feet  with  6  discus  babies  (sanmera,  blue  diamond  &  redmap  all  smaller  than  3  inches)  since  around  2  months  and  they  are  doing  perfectly  fine  (no  casualties  so  far   Clapping  ,  I  got  6  and  I  have  6  Wink  swear  on  that  Razz  Razz  )  The  smaller  tank  was  a  interim  arrangement  till  I  buy  and  setup  the  new  tank  for  discus.
 
 Now  here  are  my  questions  Wink  
 1)  Should  I  keep  tank  completely  empty  till  they  grow  big  in  size?  as  it  is  good  to  little  overfeed  and  then  clean  the  leftover  food  and  it  is  easy  in  barebottom.
 2)  If  yes  will  there  be  a  problem  moving  them  later  when  they  grow  big  (I  might  get  4  more  fishes).  Moving  the  fishes  in  tub,  arranging  the  tank  (could  take  upto  half  a  day  or  more),  cycling  the  water  and  moving  the  fishes  back.  What  will  be  the  impact  of  this  on  fishes?
 3)  Should  I  plant  the  tank  now  (  I  am  not  considering  heavy  planting  but  moderate)  arrange  everything  and  keep  it  that  way  and  let  fishes  grow  slowly.
 Any  other  suggestions...?
 
 Thanks  in  advance....
 -Fellow  Discus  lover.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Hi,  
 Keeping  the  tank  empty  meaning,  you  want  to  make  a  BB  tank,  right?  Yes  you  should  grow  the  babies  in  BB  tank.  Later  when  they  become  adults,  you  can  go  to  a  planted  one.  If  a  good  care  is  taken  while  shifting,  the  adults  will  not  be  having  an  problem  I  suppose.  As  per  my  knowledge  babies  should  be  grown  in  a  BB  tank  rather  than  a  planted  one,  as  it  is  better  to  feed  them  4-6  times  a  day.  and  clean  the  tanks  daily.  In  planted  one  it  is  very  difficult.  I  had  a  planted  discus  tank  long  back,  I  lost  2  babies  in  that  and  believe  me,  it  is  very  difficult  to  clean  a  planted  tank  specially  in  case  of  leftover  foods.  After  that  I  have  again  shifted  to  BB.  Babies  will  have  problems  if  there  is  leftover  organic  matter  in  tank.  Adults  will  not  be  having  that  kind  of  a  problem.  So  shift  to  the  planted  one  after  they  become  adults.  AND  THE  MOST  IMPORTANT  THING  IS  THAT,  IT  IS  BETTER  TO  KEEP  DISCUS  IN  A  BB  RATHER  THAN  PLANTED  ONE.  But  everyone  has  personal  choices.  Experts  will  give  more  light  on  this.
 Thanks  and  regards.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

                                                   
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1)  Should  I  keep  tank  completely  empty  till  they  grow  big  in  size?  as  it  is  good  to  little  overfeed  and  then  clean  the  leftover  food  and  it  is  easy  in  barebottom.                

 Why  do  you  want  to  keep  it  empty  till  your  discus  grows  bigger,  they  will  not  grow  properly  in  your  smaller  tank  (211)  anyways.
 Shift  them  all  to  your  90G  tank  &  watch  them  grow  bigger  (provided  they  get  enough  food  &  water-changes)  .
 Overfeeding  should  not  be  an  issue  if  you  are  willing  to  siphon  out  leftover  food.  However,  best  practice  is  to  feed  as  much  as  your  discus  can  consume  within  5-7  minutes  max.
 
 
                                                 
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2)  If  yes  will  there  be  a  problem  moving  them  later  when  they  grow  big  (I  might  get  4  more  fishes).  Moving  the  fishes  in  tub,  arranging  the  tank  (could  take  upto  half  a  day  or  more),  cycling  the  water  and  moving  the  fishes  back.  What  will  be  the  impact  of  this  on  fishes?                

 If  you  shift  them  to  bigger  tank  now,  use  smaller  tank  as  Quarantine  Tank  for  new  additions.
 Anyways  instead  of  worrying  much  about  cycling,  concentrate  more  on  water  parameters.  There  should  not  substantial  difference  between  water  parameters  of  both  tanks.
   
 
                                                 
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3)  Should  I  plant  the  tank  now  (  I  am  not  considering  heavy  planting  but  moderate)  arrange  everything  and  keep  it  that  way  and  let  fishes  grow  slowly.                

 If  you  want  planted  tank,  consider  planting  after  they  attain  size  of  about  4.5-5".
 Would  not  recommend  planted  environment  during  grow-out  stage.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Yes  yogesh  da.  
 I  meant  they  should  be  kept  in  that  big  tank  in  BB  condition.  The  small  tank  is  no  no.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 yes  completely  agree  with  you  yogesh  da.  Clapping  .
 
 it  will  easier  to  maintain  a  bare  bottom  tank  than  a  planted  one.if  you  feed  them  BHM  or  GHM  in  a  planted  tank  then  this  will  be  a  problem  Sad  .and  obviously  those  juvenile  discus  will  grow  at  faster  rate  in  your  4  ft  tank  Very Happy  .
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  reply  Pravu  &  Yogesh,  yes  I  mean  BB.  
 Yes  211  is  no  no  Wink  the  fishes  are  going  in  4x2x1.5  anyways.  The  question  is  will  I  keep  big  tank  empty  or  planted  for  discus  to  grow.  I  agree  that  many  keep  discus  tank  BB  and  that  is  good  for  them.  What  looks  good  to  our  eyes  might  not  be  good  for  fishes  Wink  
 
 So  far  I  think  I  am  going  with  BB  tank  with  drift  wood  and  few  pebbles  arranged  for  plecos  to  hide.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 If  you  meant  BB  by  empty,  that's  the  way  to  go  for  grow-outs.  Thumb Up  
 Sorry  just  misinterpreted  your  query  earlier,  thought  you  are  gonna  keep  bigger  tank  empty  until  discus  grow  bigger  in  smaller  tank.  Chuckle  
 
 BTW  which  Plecos  you  wish  to  keep  with  discus?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 yes,  Normal  plecos  are  a  bit  risky  to  keep  with  discus,  right  yogesh  da?  I  have  heard  they  act  upon  small  size  discuses  at  night  when  they  dont  get  enough  food  in  the  tank.
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 You  are  absolutely  correct  Prabuddha  da.  Smile  
 Plecos  get  very  active  during  night  time  when  its  dark  while  its  rest  time  for  discus.
 Dwarf  fancy  plecos  should  not  be  problem,  I  have  kept  mine  with  discus  as  a  temporary  arrangement.
 Common  Pleco  is  very  dangerous  tankmate  for  discus  and  when  starved  for  too  long;  it  has  a  habit  of  sticking  to  slow  moving  fish  like  discus,  goldfish  etc.  Common  Pleco  loves  to  suck  slime  on  such  slow-movers  and  discus'  flat  body  makes  it  easy  for  this  predator  to  knock  him  down  and  poor  prey  die  in  the  end.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 what's  about  bristlenose  pleco?
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 I  haven't  kept  Bristlenose  so  far,  but  have  read  they  attack  discus  slime  too.
 Ideally,  there  should  be  no  pleco  in  discus  tank.  Smile
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 exactly  keep  ONLY  discus  fish  in  your  tank  and  see  the  beauty  of  it.  Thumbs Up  years  ago  i  kept  clown  loach  and  black  ghost  knife  along  with  discus.now  i  keep  only  discus.and  beauty  of  the  tank  is  just  aweome  ROFL
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 Yes  yogeshda  and  bengalman,  Discus  itself  is   such  a  beauty,  nothing  more  is  required  in  order  to  decorate  the  tank.  They  are  awesome  of  their  own.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Lol  Yogesh  Wink   1  week  of  water  cycle  is  testing  my  patience  Wink  I  cant  wait  more
 
 Wow  that  was  some  info,  currently  I  have  common  pleco  pair,  they  are  babies  though,  just  about  1  inch  or  may  be  little  more,  but  they  are  growing  fast  as  even  after  sucking  food  out,  there  is  a  lot  remaining  which  they  feed  on  at  night.  My  small  tank  has  gravel  and  it  is  planted.
 I  will  consider  getting  some  dwarf  plecos,  I  think  it  will  cost  me  some  amount  (common  ones  I  bought  at  XXrs  a  pair  Wink  )...  I  want  to  keep  placo  for  eating  the  leftover  food,  thought  it  will  be  good  for  tank.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Got a new 90 gallon tank for discus - help me decide... Reply with quote

 Try  Corydoras  if  issue  is  leftover  food  only,  have  seen  people  using  them  for  the  purpose.
 Myself  have  some  wild-caught  Corys  in  my  wild-discus  tank.  Smile
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