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rasikanayak
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Hi,
Majority of us fishkeepers here have beautiful fishes, but only Phone cameras or Point and shoot to capture their glory!
I will be posting pics of my fishes taken using my phone camera and P&S and I invite you to do the same
Very, very important:Please post your fishy pictures information too.
The Idea is to give information of each pictures so that we can learn and expert Photographers can comment or Criticize them.
Another Very very important point: Please do not post if you cannot handle criticism!
Aim: To capture pictures which will do justice to our fishkeeping skills as well as display the beauty of the fishes and aquatic plants with minimal distortion.
Camera-Sony DSC H-5
Date: 08-Mar-2011
Flash: Used -0.7
Focal length- 12.1mm
Exposure: 1/60
F number: f/3.5
White balance- Auto
Metering mode: Center weight
Exposure program: Aperture priority
ISO: 80
Stage2:
Opened with Microsoft Office picture manager
Auto correct
Crop
Resize
Save
Stage3:
Opened with Adobe photoshop 7.0
Select: All
Filter: Sharpen-> Sharpen
Select: Modify->Border
Select the width in the pop up box
Select the color
Edit: Fill
Select the type of border in the pop up box
Select: Text tool
Type text
and this is the result.
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sarge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Very good initiative  and awesome snap. Will be looking forward to the posts this thread.
I have never captured my fishes thinking it needs special cameras, lenses and external flash and after failed attempts to take a clear photo. You have made me believe otherwise. Will definitely try it out although my cam would not be having as many settings as you have mentioned 
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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This thread is going to be interesting. Hope to learn lot more. Thanks Nayak.
Few things on whatever I have tried and tested.
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Will definitely try it out although my cam would not be having as many settings as you have mentioned
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Many P&S users wont look into what features their cameras have got. Few basic things which might help -
1. Macro mode - Almost every camera (even my mobile) has this. This is for taking pictures of smaller objects.
2. Aperture priority / Shutter priority - These are semi-manual options where you can control one parameter and the camera will decide on the rest.
3. Continuous shooting - Have seen this in quite a few cameras. This will take a bunch of quick shots and you can configure it to save first few or last few shots. This will be very helpful for capturing fast swimmers.
4. Flash options - I would want to know more about effectively using flash. If anyone else can add some information on this part, it would be very helpful.
5. Scene modes - These modes are available in almost all P&S cameras. Modes like action/sports could be helpful for capturing fishes (Even if there is not much of any control over shutter speed or aperture). |
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sarge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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@random2: Very useful information indeed.
And talking of using flash effectively would like to know how to avoid the reflection from the tank. Most times I click the flash interferes right where the fish is and ruins the shot. I can see the flash on Nayak's first photo but it is nowhere near the fish and hence edited out later. Whats the trick? |
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Marc
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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A really good topic Nayak,
I would like to learn a lot about simple aquarium photography. |
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hayath_dyno
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Lovely thread idea Nayakre 
My idea of a learning thread got buried pretty quick
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=16029
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3. Continuous shooting - Have seen this in quite a few cameras. This will take a bunch of quick shots and you can configure it to save first few or last few shots. This will be very helpful for capturing fast swimmers.
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Continuous shooting will work well only when flash is not used. The recycle time for flash is pretty high.
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4. Flash options - I would want to know more about effectively using flash. If anyone else can add some information on this part, it would be very helpful.
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A couple of tips -
1. Try diffusing the flash by placing a paper towel over the flash, probably tape it over the pop-up flash
2. Decrease the Flash intensity a notch or two. Most P&S allow this. Flash is always calculated by the camera based on the ambient and often results in over-exposed/blown out shots
3. Shoot at a slight angle - probably the most important and overstated tip 
4. Do not use flash from far off distances. Often gives fish the "red eye" or the "steel eye" |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Shoot at a slight angle - probably the most important and overstated tip
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I press my flash right against the tank glass. No back flashes. : )
@ Nayak, lovely thread indeed! |
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Madan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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I press my flash right against the tank glass. No back flashes. : )
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Ayyyaee !!! 
TIP OF THE DAY ! |
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rasikanayak
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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@random2: Very useful information indeed.
And talking of using flash effectively would like to know how to avoid the reflection from the tank. Most times I click the flash interferes right where the fish is and ruins the shot. I can see the flash on Nayak's first photo but it is nowhere near the fish and hence edited out later. Whats the trick?
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You mean like this?
To avoid,
Point 1: If the fish is after the second half or back of the tank and you should be standing near the glass of your aquarium and use zoom.
Point 2: If the fish is near the front glass of your aquarium you should step farther back and use zoom. Here you will have to stand at an angle to your aquarium.
This will keep the flash reflection away from your subject and will be easier to edit out later.
But there are other problems also with flash,
Like reflecting off a particular shiny fish
Over lapping the colors and details
Reflecting off the invisible water marks on the glass and blurring the picture.
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A really good topic Nayak,
I would like to learn a lot about simple aquarium photography.
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We will both learn together,Marc
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rasikanayak
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Lovely thread idea Nayakre
My idea of a learning thread got buried pretty quick
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=16029
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3. Continuous shooting - Have seen this in quite a few cameras. This will take a bunch of quick shots and you can configure it to save first few or last few shots. This will be very helpful for capturing fast swimmers.
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Continuous shooting will work well only when flash is not used. The recycle time for flash is pretty high.
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4. Flash options - I would want to know more about effectively using flash. If anyone else can add some information on this part, it would be very helpful.
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A couple of tips -
1. Try diffusing the flash by placing a paper towel over the flash, probably tape it over the pop-up flash
2. Decrease the Flash intensity a notch or two. Most P&S allow this. Flash is always calculated by the camera based on the ambient and often results in over-exposed/blown out shots
3. Shoot at a slight angle - probably the most important and overstated tip
4. Do not use flash from far off distances. Often gives fish the "red eye" or the "steel eye"
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Shoot at a slight angle - probably the most important and overstated tip
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I press my flash right against the tank glass. No back flashes. : )
@ Nayak, lovely thread indeed!
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I press my flash right against the tank glass. No back flashes. : )
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Ayyyaee !!!
TIP OF THE DAY !
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Oops, was typing furiously and did not see your posts. Slow typer you see
Thanks,
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Kuna
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Nice thread Nayak...
Beginners like me can learn a lot...thanks again for bring such thread... |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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| i cant see any images. why is that? |
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madhu_ulysses
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Looks like one more block buster from you.
When most of us were in the opinion that P&S were only for family clicks, Trevor was the first to prove us wrong when he came out with pics from his pocket cam that outsmarted many DSLR shots and now you are fitting into his shoes.
There is this one time I remember telling Hayath that his PS shots were better than his DSLR shots when he brought his 450D |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Getting the fish into focus has been a very big problem for me while taking pictures. I end up taking 50-60 pictures at a time hoping that one of them has come out right. Any tips on focusing on the subjects. Most of the time the auto focus focuses on the glass rather than the fish  |
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Madan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Camera phones and P&S |
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Preetham, why are you complaining about 50-60 clicks now in the digital world.
Once you take about 5000 pictures of fish with the same camera, the keeper count will increase. |
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