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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Yahh  ysubhankumar  is  right  and  IMO  putting  a  bio  ball  at  first  is  not  a  good  idea  because  if  you  put  bioballs  at  first  stage  in  any  filtration  then  all  the  dust  get  stuck  in  it  so  IMO  first  layer  always  should  be  of  sponge.
 I've  designed  a  filter  for  you  hope  this  helps.
 things  you'll  need  
 1  Powerfilter
 2  Sponge
 3  Ceramic  rings
 4  container
 5  pipe
 6  bio-balls
 
 First  remove  the  sponge  from  powerfilter  container  and  fill  it  with  ceramic  rings..and  then  the  diagram  will  explain...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 @Ansh  in  such  filteration  system  a  return  pump  works  well  .  make  a  inlet  option  at  the  bottom  and  let  the  return  pump  through  the  water  from  top  it  will  keep  good  good  water  circulation
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Thanks  guys,  thanks  for  your  valuable  ideas  !
 
 @  swapnil  -  I've  understood  your  design  but  will  it  be  possible  for  u  to  guide  me  in  getting  your  design  in  my  
 triangular  tank,  as  shown  by  Kuna.  I  mean  how  can  we  fit  in  your  filtration  system  in  that  compact  space,  for  the  filter  in  triangular  tank  ?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Ansh,
 
 Can  you  please  introduce  yourself  here  Smile  
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15
 
 
                                                 
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Please  add  city  in  your  profile  it  will  help  members  in  helping  you  out.
 Price  discussions  are  not  allowed  in  forum,  therefore  I  am  sending  you  approx  cost  of  such  tank  by  pm.
 Viewing  gets  distorted  in  triangular  aquariums,  further  the  swimming  area  is  also  reduced.  You  will  have  problems  in  finding  lights  for  this  shape.
 A  rectangular  tank  is  always  better,  keep  it  diagonally  in  the  corner,  it  will  serve  the  same  purpose.
 Search  this  forum,  there  was  once  a  tank  similar  to  your  tank,  it  had  quiet  a  lot  of  discussions.                

 +1  to  Sandeep.  I  reiterate  his  suggestion  for  a  rectangular  tank.
 
 
                                                 
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Sorry  to  inform  u  my  friend  but  your  concept  is  wrong...as  its  simple  physics  that  water  acquires  same  level.So  when  your  pump  runs  water  into  the  filter  box  as  designed  by  u  than  it  won't  make  somuch  pressure  that  water  will  come  from  the  outlet  below....it  will  acquire  the  same  water  level  in  the  tank  &  will  not  do  any  good  to  your  tank's  filtration....thinkpractically  about  it...............                

 Again  agree.
 
 Ansh,
 Setting  a  planted  tank  for  the  first  time  is  itself  a  major  challenge.  Do  you  still  want  to  go  for  a  DIY  filter+  a  planted  tank  and  make  it  complex.  Why  not  go  for  a  power  filter  right  now  and  experiment  on  the  DIY  method  later?  Just  a  query  to  guide  you  better  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 discus  are  very  hard  to  keep  because  of  their  water  requirements  they  need  a  well  established  tank,  should  only  have  discuses  in  there  and  they  prefer  a  tall  tank.  some  cichlids  will  be  fine  like  the  german  blue  /  gold  ram  also  the  shell  dweller  cichlid...DIY
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Thanks  Rasik  for  your  reply  !
 
 Space  is  the  main  concern  ,  so  thats  why  i  want  to  go  for  triangular  tank.  Well  I'm  just  a  beginner  in  this  hobby,  if  u  guys  suggest  me  to  go  for  power  filter  ,  I'll  do  it.  
 
 I  will  introduce  myself  on  the  link  provided  by  u.  
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Ansh,
 
 Thanks  very  much  and  welcome  to  the  IAH  community  Very Happy  
 
 Next  query,  Do  you  want  to  go  low  tech  or  high  tech?  Depends  on  your  budget.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Thanks  Rasik  !
 
 Is  there  any  range  for  the  low  tech  and  the  high  tech  ?
 
 If  yes  then  please  tell  me  about  it  ,  because  i'm  not  aware  of  it
 
 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Go  through  these  topics,  if  you  want  to  go  for  a  planted  tank.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4666
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4772
 
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4712
 
 You  can  go  in  for
 (1)  Non  planted  tank,  you  can  through  this  link  for  ideas.  ¬†http://www.elmersaquarium.com/nav/freshwater/index.html
 
 (2)  Planted  Low  Tech  Tank,  low  lights,  slow  growing  plants,  normal  substrate,  no  artificial  co2  injection/diy  co2  setup.
 
 (3)  Planted  High  Tech  Tank:  Special  branded  substrates,  powerful  lights,  artificial  injection  of  Co2,  all  other  bells  &  whistles.  Smile  
 
 You  need  to  first  decide  as  to  what  type  of  tank  you  need  to  set  up,  There  after  people  here  will  be  able  to  help  you  out.
 
 Please  do  not  try  to  do  too  many  things  at  one  time,  patience  is  key  virtue  in  keeping  aquariums.  Thumb Up
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 about  triangular  tank.  there  are  triangular  shape  powerfilter  are  also  available  in  market  which  fits  in  the  V  shape.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Thanks  Sandeep  &  Swapnil  !
 
 I  think  I  should  go  for  the  2nd  option  -  The  Planted  Low  Tech  Tank.  I'm  new  to  this  and  also  I  will  have  to  do  some  extra  work  for  getting  the  plants.  
 
 In  my  city,  even  aquarium  plants  are  not  so  easily  available.  But  I  think  I  should  go  for  the  planted  low  tech  tank.  
 
 What  next  ???
 
 
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 Anyone  ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Himanshu,
 
 Planted  tanks  is  a  vast  subject  and  instructing  you  step  by  step  will  be  very  difficult.  So  I  suggest  we  follow  the  guiding  principles  as  in  college  professor.
 
 Next  step.  Search  on  IAH  or  Google  the  following  topics  using  the  keywords  in  priority  of
 
 Priority1:
 1)  Substrate
 2)  Laterite  in  aquariums
 3)  River  sand  or  gravel  in  aquariums
 4)  Diana  Walstad  and  garden  soil  in  aquariums
 5)  DIY  CO2
 6)  Photosynthesis  in  aquariums
 7)  Types  of  plants(Stem,  Rosette  and  Rhizome)
 8-  Lighting  in  a  planted  tanks(  In  your  case  tubelights  or  PLL  will  be  sufficient)
 9)  Substrate  feeders  and  water  column  feeding  plants
 10)  macros  in  planted  tank
 11)  Micros  in  planted  tank
 12)  Tom  Barrs  Dosing  regimen  in  planted  tanks
 
 Priority2:
 13)  Nutrient  deficiency  in  aquatic  plants
 14)  Types  of  Algae  and  their  controls
 15)  Fish  compatibility  in  planted  tanks
 16)  Algae  eating  fishes
 
 I  will  add  more  as  and  when  I  remember  more  points.  Start  reading  and  slowly  implementing.  If  you  have  any  specific  doubts  please  feel  fee  to  ask  Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Upgrading the Aquarium Reply with quote

 Hi  Rasik  ,  thanks  for  your  reply  !
 
 I've  already  gone  through  most  of  the  topics  and  will  cover  up  the  rest.  As  Sandeep  gave  me  3  options  and  out  of  those  3  ,  i've  opted  for  the  2nd  one  (low  tech  planted  tank).  I  just  wanted  to  know  do  I  still  need  to  go  for  CO2  setup  ?  
 
 Another  thing  is  the  filtration  system,  so  should  I  go  for  the  power  filter  for  my  tank  ?  It  will  be  around  56G  tank.  I  went  through  several  options  like  aqueon,  whisper,  aquaclear,  Hagen,  Penguin,  etc.  Would  you  like  to  suggest  any  other  ?
 
 The  reason  I'm  in  a  rush  for  filter  and  plants  are  only  because  I  know,  I  wont  get  these  items  in  Chandigarh.  So  I  will  have  to  definately  get  it  from  a  place  suggested  by  you  or  any  other  member  and  i.e.,  either  from  New  Delhi  or  cities  like  Bangalore,  etc.  which  is  going  to  take  time.  
 
 Please  suggest  !
 
 Thanks  for  helping  me  out  Rasik  !
 
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Hi  Rasik  ,  thanks  for  your  reply  !
 
 I've  already  gone  through  most  of  the  topics  and  will  cover  up  the  rest.  As  Sandeep  gave  me  3  options  and  out  of  those  3  ,  i've  opted  for  the  2nd  one  (low  tech  planted  tank).  I  just  wanted  to  know  do  I  still  need  to  go  for  CO2  setup  ?  Ansh                

 Depend  on  the  plants.  If  you  go  for  vallisneria,  Cryptocoryne,  Echinodorous,  Moss,  Ferns  etc  etc  you  can  make  do  without  CO2.  But  your  choices  of  plants  will  be  limited  and  their  growth  will  be  slow.  
 
 
                                                 
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 Another  thing  is  the  filtration  system,  so  should  I  go  for  the  power  filter  for  my  tank  ?  It  will  be  around  56G  tank.  I  went  through  several  options  like  aqueon,  whisper,  aquaclear,  Hagen,  Penguin,  etc.  Would  you  like  to  suggest  any  other  ?
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 No.  Take  your  pick  from  one  of  them.
 
 
                                                 
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 The  reason  I'm  in  a  rush  for  filter  and  plants  are  only  because  I  know,  I  wont  get  these  items  in  Chandigarh.  So  I  will  have  to  definately  get  it  from  a  place  suggested  by  you  or  any  other  member  and  i.e.,  either  from  New  Delhi  or  cities  like  Bangalore,  etc.  which  is  going  to  take  time.  
 Regards  
 Ansh
                 

 Chandigarh  is  quiet  a  city,  I  have  been  told.  If  you  are  ready  to  do  some  footwork,  I  am  sure  you  will  find  a  lot  of  your  needs  there  itself.
 
 Regards,
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