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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 my  electric  solenoid  is  heating  up  very  very  much,  its  like  u  cant  even  touch  it.  im  worried  about  my  cylinder  heating  up  and  might  blow  my  safty  valve  breaking  all  my  tanks  as  its  kept  behind  the  tanks.  i  also  touched  the  cylinder  tap  and  its  quiet  warm.  can  any1  also  tell  me  how  much  heat  can  a  co2  cylinder  bear  before  breaking......
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 How  long  can  you  keep  your  fingers  on  the  "Cylinder  tap"  ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 the  cylinder  is  jus  warm  not  hot.  the  solnoid  is  hot.  can  keep  my  hand  for  hrs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 Don't  fret  about  anything  then.
 Change  the  CO2  tubing  connected  to  the  solenoid  every  6  months.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 i  just  wana  know  about  the  max  temp.  a  co2  cylinder  can  bear.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 Google  for  the  melting  point  of  steel.  
 The  whole  length  of  the  cylinder  is  not  warmed  by  the  solenoid,  cannot  happen.
 You  can  hold  the  "cylinder  tap"  for  hours,  so  the  gas  at  the  tap  is  not  overheated  by  any  stretch  of  imagination.
 Everybody's  solenoid  heats  up  as  much  as  yours.  Rest  easy.
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 CO2  TANK  SAFETY  –  Using  your  Outback  Air   CO2  System:  
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   . VERY  IMPORTANT!  Your  Outback  Air   CO2  system  was  designed  for  use  when  sitting  on  its  base  and  upright.  It  may  be  stored  on  its  side  or  any  other  position  when  not  in  use.  There  is  liquid  CO2  in  the  tank  when  filled  and  you  don’t  want  that  coming  out  of  the  hose!  You  want  to  use  the  CO2  gas  at  the  top  of  the  cylinder.  
 
   . Open  the  tank  valve  completely  when  in  use.  Close  the  tank  valve  tightly  for  storage.  
 
   . Take  care  of  your  Outback  Air   CO2  system.  It  was  designed  for  rugged  outback  use  but  the  regulator  and  tank  valve  must  be  protected  from  damage.  If  you  didn’t  purchase  one  with  your  system,  an  Outback  Air  tank  bracket  will  keep  it  safely  secured  until  you  need  it.
 
   . Your  Outback  Air   CO2  system  comes  with  a  150  psi  static  regulator.  Be  sure  any  air  tool  you  may  use  has  a  maximum  rating  of  150  psi  or  greater.  The  actual  usable  pressure  at  the  tool  end  of  the  coilhose  is  about  120  psi.  Tools  with  a  lower  max  psi  rating  can  be  used,  but  must  not  be  run  for  long  periods  of  time  to  avoid  damage.  Use  your  best  judgment.  Outback  Equipped  is  NOT  RESPONSIBLE  for  damage  to  tools  you  may  use  other  than  the  air  chuck  supplied  with  your  system  at  time  of  purchase.
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 CAUTION!  –  Please  Read  This  Carefully!  
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   . A  CO2  cylinder  is  filled  with  liquid  CO2  by  weight.  At  the  time  of  fill  the  temperature  of  the  charge  is  extremely  cold  and  the  pressure  is  around  100  psi.
 
   . When  a  fully  charged  CO2  cylinder  warms  up  to  room  temperature  (70  F),  the  pressure  inside  the  cylinder  increases  to  837  psi.
 
   . When  the  same  cylinder  reaches  87.9  F  the  entire  charge  becomes  a  gas  no  matter  what  the  pressure.  A  fully  charged  CO2  cylinder  at  87.9  F  will  have  an  internal  pressure  of  approximately  1100  psi.
 
   . At  120  F  the  same  cylinder  will  have  an  internal  pressure  of  nearly  2000  psi.  This  cylinder  at  120  oF  now  has  an  internal  pressure  greater  than  the  marked  service  pressure  of  a  cylinder  that  is  properly  filled,  not  overfilled.
 
   . At  155  F  the  same  cylinder  will  reach  a  pressure  of  3000  psi,  a  pressure  great  enough  activate  the  safety  vent  on  the  valve,  venting  the  CO2  charge.
 
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 . As  you  can  see,  when  the  temperature  of  the  fully  charged  cylinder  increases,  the  pressure  increases.  A  temperature  of  155  F,  at  which  the  safety  would  actuate  and  vent  the  contents  of  the  cylinder,  is  not  that  high  of  a  temperature.  This  temperature  could  easily  be  reached  in  many  different  environments  (i.e.  in  a  shed  or  a  vehicle  on  a  hot  day,  etc.).  Unexpected  venting  of  a  cylinder  through  its  safety  can  be  startling  to  say  the  least,  potentially  leading  to  accidents,  property  damage,  or  personal  injury.  Coming  into  contact  with  the  venting  of  the  CO2  charge  of  a  cylinder  can  cause  personal  injury  such  as  frostbite.  
 
 When  using,  handling,  transporting,  and  storing  a  CO2  cylinder  always  be  aware  of  the  temperature  to  which  the  cylinder  will  be  exposed.  This  is  not  just  the  temperature  the  cylinder  is  exposed  to  at  that  point  in  time,  but  also  the  maximum  temperature  that  the  cylinder  will  be  exposed  to  at  any  time  in  it's  service.  Outback  Equipped,  along  with  the  CGA,  recommends  that  CO2  cylinders  not  be  used  at  temperatures  exceeding  120  F.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:33 am Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 Now  get  a  thermometer  and  measure  the  cylinder  wall  temperature  !
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: solenoid heating tremendously..... Reply with quote

 now  its  much  cooler,  the  solenoid  was  a  bit  loose.  tht  was  my  mistake
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