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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:00 am Post subject: Loosing Fishes.. Reply with quote

 Guys,
 
 I  bought  some  Cardinals,  Neons  and  Harlequins  this  evening.    The  fishes  were  packed  with  oxygen  filled  in  and  I  reached  home  within  30  minutes.
 I  wanted  to  clean  the  aquarium  before  introducing  the  fishes.
 
 I  moved  the  fishes  to  a  container,  aerated  the  water  and  carried  on  vaccuming  the  tank.
 Within  one  hour,  three  Harlequin  died  followed  by  two  cardinals.
 After  three  hours  I  have  lost  4  Harlequins,  3  Cardinals  and  2  Neons.
 
 I  still  cant  figure  out  what  caused  the  deaths.  
 
 The  fishes  were  kept  in  the  same  water  that  they  were  brought  in.  
 
 There  was  no  significant  temperature  change.
 
 How  can  the  fishes  die  suddenly  and  within  a  short  span  of  time?
 
 -  Veera
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:05 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Few  things  you  need  to  tell...
 
 1.Did  you  dechlorinate  the  water?  How  much  of  the  water  did  you  change?
 2.Did  you  change  anything  like  the  filter  media  or  something?  Even  if  its  just  a  sponge?
 3.How  many  fish  did  you  put  in  you're  tank?  Whats  the  dimensions  of  your  tank?
 4.Did  the  container  you  move  to  have  anything  in  it...  if  it  was  a  bucket  or  something,  it  was  probably  used  before  to  clean  something  else.  adn  has  some  detergent  or  something...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:18 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 I  did  not  put  the  fishes  in  the  tank.  
 
 I  moved  the  fishes  to  a  temporary  container.  
 
 I  washed  the  container(plastic  bucket)  clean  before  adding  the  fishes  and  the  water  used  to  wash  was  chlorine  free.
 After  that  I  transferred  the  fishes  and  water  to  the  container.
 
 The  fishes  died  in  the  container.
 
 So  there  was  no  change  except  for  the  container  and  the  aerator  tube  that  was  inserted  in  the  water.
 
 -  Veera
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 Hmm...  I  cant  seem  to  think  of  anything  else  at  this  time,  I'll  leave  it  to  the  pro's.    Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:38 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Veera:
 
 High  Mortality  Rate:
 
 This  is  one  of  the  most  frustrating  experience  as  a  hobbyist.  It  is  almost  impossible  to  determine  what  exactly  is  going  wrong  inside  the  aquarium.
 
 Reasons:
 1.  New  fish  added  might  have  died  from  unusual  stress  caused  from  capture  and  transfer  (Neons  are  more  prone  to  this!)
 
 2.  As  the  signs  of  death  are  invisible,  it  might  be  more  likely  that  you  have  a  problem  with  Water  Condition.  So,  pay  attention  to  Ammonia,  Nitrites,  Filter,  Overcrowding,  Temparature  and  Aeration.  (In  a  non-established  tank,  adding  just  one  fish  can  affect  the  biological  balance!)
 
 3.  If  fish  were  not  eating;  uneaten  food  decays...causing  a  rapid  buildup  of  bacteria,  depleting  oxygen  and  the  fish  dies  of  suffocation.
 
 4.  New  fishes  may  even  die  out  of  Starvation!!  OR  Natural  death  if  they  have  finished  their  life  span  (natural  aging  in  a  set  tank  and  dies  when  moved  to  a  new  tank).
 
 Well,  after  these  reasons,  what  can  be  done  further  is:
 
 If  water  parameters  are  normal,  a  disease  OR  parasite  may  be  present  invisible  to  your  eyes  and  may  be  killing  the  fishes.  Unfortunately  you  don't  have  much  choice  but  to  treat  all  your  fish  for  diseases  and  quarantine  them.
 
 Move  all  fishes  to  Hospital  Tank.
 
 1.Treat  with  Rock  Salt  for  3  days  @  1  Tbsp  per  5  Lts  of  water.
 
 2.  Do  a  60%  Water  Change  and  treat  the  fishes  for  ICK  for  2  days
 
 3.  Do  a  50%  WC  and  treat  with  Epsom  Salt  for  3  days  @  10gms  per  10  Lts  of  water.
 
 4.  Do  a  50%  WC  and  wait  for  a  week:  Observe  the  fishes  on  feeding  and  watchout  for  other  symptoms.
 
 If  everything  seems  OK,  release  the  fishes  to  Main  Tank.
 
 Enjoy,
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:41 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Thanks  Guys
 
 I  did  30%  water  change  twice  and  it  helped.  
 Three  Neons  and  one  Cardinal  have  survived.
 
 One  more  point  I  would  like  to  highlight.  The  fishes  were  handled  roughly  by  the  person  who  caught  the  fishes.  Even  though  I  requested  the  guy  to  be  careful  with  these  fragile  fishes,  he  never  heeded.  
 The  fishes  were  caught  using  net  and  transferred(rather  thrown)  to  the  bag  using  hand.
 
 -  Veera
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 You're  under  no  obligation  to  buy  them  if  he's  being  a  j3rk.  Just  walk  if  you  aren't  happy.  It's  you're  money  afterall.
 
 You'd  have  paid  quite  a  bit  for  them  too  right?  How  many  fish  did  you  buy  in  all?
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 Thats  right  Abhi.  I  should  have  done  that
 BTW  I  brought  home  6  Harlequins,  6  Neons  and  4  Cardinals
 
 -  Veera
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