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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 My  friends  wild  discus  lot  has  got  devasted  due  to  possible  discus  plague  Sad  
 he  has  now  tanken  them  to  hopital  tank  but  the  question  arise  how  to  sterelise  the  main  tank  now
 i  suggested  him  to  change  the  whole  setup  i.e  tank+nets+filter  etc  Sad  
 does  expert  have  any  advise  in  such  case  as  my  advise  is  quite  expensive
 he  has  another  grown  up  size  lot  in  another  room
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:47 am Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 I  think  overdosing  the  main  tank  with  potassium  permanganate  with  all  the  equipments  running  for  atleast  5hrs  will  help.  I  had  a  similar  issue  which  killed  all  my  discus,  now  after  the  treatment  i  got  some  new  batch  and  all  seems  to  be  fine.   Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 If  you  are  serious  about  this,  nuke  it.  take  the  tank  and  equipments  outside,  wash  it  down  with  fresh  water,  wash  it  with  a  anti  bacteria  soap,  soak  the  filter  intakes,  insides  etc  well.  rinse  it  out  properly  and  then  wash  it  down  with  bleaching  powder.  wash  well  and  sun  dry.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 I  second  ruchit.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 Emmanuel,
 Ruchit  has  hit  the  bullseye  with  the  pp  suggestion.Ask  your  friend  to  overdose  the  tank  and  equipments  with  pp  and  leave  it  for  as  long  as  he  can  afford  to.The  only  other  concern  is  probably  the  fact  that  certain  diseases  are  airborne  and  may  recontaminate  the  tank  if  kept  in  the  vicinity.Isolating  the  affected  equipment  by  quite  a  distance(preferably  in  the  other  end  of  the  house)  should  do  the  trick  but  to  be  doubly  sure  do  make  it  a  point  to  have  another  round  of  disinfecting  before  the  final  release  of  healthy  fishes.
 I  do  not  use  any  sort  of  soap  for  aquarium  and  its  equipment  cleaning  and  I  would  suggest  your  friend  not  to  do  it  either.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 thanks  Ruchit,  Viresh,  Adesh  and  Swarnendu  for  reply
 @Ruchit  can  you  tell  how  long  you  took  to  add  new  batch  ?
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 Ruchit  can  you  tell  how  long  you  took  to  add  new  batch  ?
                 

 
 Hi,  well  after  the  PP  treatment  with  all  the  filter  equipments,  the  tank  should  be  as  good  as  new  so  you  will  be  starting  a  fresh  cycle.  It  took  around  14days  for  my  tank  to  settle  down  and  then  I  started  adding  livestocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 The  only  &  best  solution  is  PP  treatment  which  I  have  done  for  the  same  instance  when  it  happened  with  me  last  year  (I  lost  38  Discus  in  3  tank).......But  go  for  minimum  72  hrs.  which  I  have  done  .....your  Tank,  Net,  Filter,  Thermostat,  Thermometer  etc  etc....Ruchit  &  Swarnendu  already  mentioned  the  same.....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 Hi  Emmanuel,  just  to  say  best  of  luck  for  your  friend.  I  don't  have  any  idea  about  this  disease.  So,  I  have  a  question  in  mind,  what  are  the  possible  symptoms  to  judge  or  identify,  plague  outbreak  in  your  tank?  Please  suggest  as  it  will  help  all  the  discus  lovers  to  detect  and  start  the  treatment  as  early  as  possible  in  case  of  such  problems.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:27 am Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Hi  Emmanuel,  just  to  say  best  of  luck  for  your  friend.  I  don't  have  any  idea  about  this  disease.  So,  I  have  a  question  in  mind,  what  are  the  possible  symptoms  to  judge  or  identify,  plague  outbreak  in  your  tank?  Please  suggest  as  it  will  help  all  the  discus  lovers  to  detect  and  start  the  treatment  as  early  as  possible  in  case  of  such  problems.                

 
 it  looked  like  it  had  also  effected  me  in  recent  time  but  I  could  save  almost  all  of  them  lost  two  but  those  two  were  already  stunted.
 symptoms  are:
 blackening  
 sparingly  eating  or  not  eating
 stays  in  huddle  probably  nearthe  water  suface
 heavy  mucus  on  the  fins  and  clamped  fins
 rotten  fin  edges
 all  of  them  or  most  of  them  together  are  syptoms  of  discus  black  desease
 said  to  be  airborne  viral  infection  has  a  history  of  wipping  out  hactheries  in  matters  of  days
 desease  is  quite  common  with  all  LFS  here  in  Mumbai  who  are  feeding  live  blood  worms
 
 precaution:  If  you  have  discus  dont  bring  home  any  live  or  frozen  aquatic  worms  sold  in  the  market  for  any  other  fish   No Way
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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My  friends  wild  discus  lot  has  got  devasted  due  to  possible  discus  plague  Sad  
 he  has  now  tanken  them  to  hopital  tank  but  the  question  arise  how  to  sterelise  the  main  tank  now
 i  suggested  him  to  change  the  whole  setup  i.e  tank+nets+filter  etc  Sad  
 does  expert  have  any  advise  in  such  case  as  my  advise  is  quite  expensive
 he  has  another  grown  up  size  lot  in  another  room                

 Generally  wild-caught  discus  &  other  fishes  are  dewormed  with  proper  Quarantine  at  farms  by  reputed  Sellers  in  Singapore  who  source  it  from  Amazonian/African  exporters.  Later  this  properly  quarantined  livestock  is  shifted  from  their  farm  to  their  shop  for  retail  sale.  However  one  cannot  guarantee  that  fish  is  completely  free  of  worms,  parasites  or  bacterias  even  after  treating  them.
 
 As  Ruchit  correctly  pointed  out  PP  is  the  best  way  to  nuke  your  aquarium  &  accessories  from  such  infection.
 There  is  separate  league  of  hobbyists  who  treat  aquariums  +  accessories  with  soap,  shampoo,  detergents  &  scrub  it  with  Scotch-Brite  etc.  Shocked  
 
 Very  few  discus  with  harder  immunity  survive  the  fatal  attack  like  Plague.  But  from  a  hobbyist  point  of  view,  always  safer  to  start  with  new  batch  by  discarding  Plague  survivors.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: sterelising plague hit tank Reply with quote

 yes  Yogesh  you  made  a  vital  point,  all  those  plague  survivor  carry  those  virus  on  thier  body  and  it  is  dangerous  to  add  any  other  fish  to  this  stock  for  atleast  for  six  months  or  more
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 How  about  keeping  the  tank  run  with  high  dose  of  formalin  for  1  week  ?  Eyebrow  
 PP  stains  the  glass  and  equipment  if  kept  for  longer  period
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 Thanks  for  all  the  in-formations  Emmanuel.
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 spirit  will  do  the  work.  isopropyl  alchohol(rubbing  alchohol)  is  tech  name  hope  spelling  is  rit.
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