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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 I  had  bought  8  two  inch  red  discuss,  now  after  introducing  them  to  my  tank  one  of  them  is  swimming  erratically  also  its  gill  movements  are  fast,  one  more  slightly  small  one  is  also  not  swimming  properly  it  has  lost  its  balance  slightly  ad  its  stomach  is  redish.  I  have  seperated  them  in  a  small  tank  and  started  the  teramycyin  treatment  along  with  epsom  salt,  I  just  wanted  to  know  how  to  save  the  life  of  these  two  and  also  prevent  any  possible  infection  to  others.  Please  help,  Also  raised  the  temp  to  30  celsius.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Two  questions  Mohan.
 1.Any  specific  reason  for  jumpstarting  antibiotic  treatment?
 2.Have  you  checked  the  chlorine  content  of  your  tap  water?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Please  tell  the  tank  specifications  like  size,decorations  if  any  etc.
 Also  did  you  checked  the  PH  variation  in  the  tank  and  the  water  you  bought  the  fish  from?
 did  you  used  the  Old  water  or  new  water  to  your  tank?
 
 Can  you  please  upload  a  picture  so  that  the  experts  can  advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:33 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Mohan  ,
 
 Try  to  post  the  pic  of  these  discus  to  guide  you  ,  also  from  where  you  source  these  discus  
   If  they  are  from  breeder  ,  try  to  contact  the  breeder  ,  he  may  advice  you  better  .  If  they  are  from  LFS  ,  they  may  be  carrying  some  infectiions  .  Did  you  quarantine  these  discus  .
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 HI,
 Shiva  sir  i  have  sourced  it  from  a  breeder,  I  used  stored  water,  tank  specs  are  36,12,15,  They  are  all  in  a  seperate  tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Hi  Mohan,
 
 How  are  your  discus  juveniles  doing  now.  I  had  similar  problems  last  month.  Tried  Temp  30  &  Rock  Salt  ...  but  could  not  save  the  affected  fishes.  In  a  matter  of  2  days  one  lost  the  battle  and  the  other  in  a  weeks  time.  But  the  rest  are  doing  fine  till  date.  But  sometimes,  one  of  them  do  show  those  erratic  movements.  Sad  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 I  had  the  similar  problem  2  months  before.
 I  identified  that  the  reson  because  of  a  water  change  after  a  rainy  day.
 May  be  Ph  difference  of  impurities  in  the  water  or  any  other  parasites  caused  the  problem.  I  also  used  the  rock  salt  treatment.  but  it  will  not  reduce  the  problem.
 I  used  the   PP  treatement  and  i  just  added  the  PP  to  the  bare  bottom  tank  after  the  water  changes  .  
 Surprisingly  it  worked  out  well  for  me.  I  cant  ask  any  IAH  dicus  gurus  because  of  the  internet  problem.But  confirmed  the  PP  dosage  after  the  internet  problem  resolved.
 (I  DONT  KNOW  WHETHER  THE  PP  HELPED  ME  OUT).
 
 NB:  It  is  not  an  advisable  method  to  follow.So  always  go  with  the  symptoms  and  ask  any  experts  like  Shiva  or  any  others.  I  think  Shiva  is  posted  his  number  .So  you  can  contact  him.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Hello  Ratheesh,
 
 I  was  actually  guessing  the  same  reason  -  WC.  Most  of  those  horror  movements  increased  after  WC.
 
 Could  you  please  let  us  know:
 1.  dosage  of  PP
 2.  amount  of  water  in  the  BB  tank
 3.  duration  of  the  bath
 4.  No.  and  size  of  the  discus  you  treated.
 
 I  have  one  juvenile  with  this  dreaded  disease.  Its  condition  is  not  improving  even  by  one  percent,  so  atleast  I  can  take  a  chance  with  your  treatment  ...  else  I  know  the  end  is  going  to  be  fatal.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Guys
 By  the  looks  of  those  poor  fishes,the  only  thing  that  seems  to  be  wrong  with  them  is  the  chlorine  content.I  would  request  Mohan  to  specify  his  water  aging  process  which  I  think  is  a  suspect.
 Ratheesh,chlorine  is  precisely  the  reason  for  your  discus  getting  affected  during  the  rainy  season  when  the  municipality  fellows  indiscriminately  add  bleaching  powder  to  our  water  supplies  to  keep  themselves  on  the  safer  side.
 Mohan,  do  try  to  add  some  hypo(sodium  thiosulphate)  to  the  water  during  WCs  for  the  next  few  days  and  check  the  difference.
 This  is  something  I  have  experienced  in  my  beginner  days(well,I  am  still  very  much  a  beginner  Smile  )  and  I  would  love  to  see  my  friends  here  not  committing  the  same  mistakes!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 @aquarius,  Actually  I  dont  age  water  istead  I  use  Hypo,  But  the  fishes  were  added  in  48  hrs  aged  water  ad  the  first  water  change  was  done  only  after  24  hrs,  i  smally  quantities.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 @aquarius
   i  think  the  mejority  of  fish  will  die  in  chlorine  water  with  in  a  day  or  an  hour.In  the  case  of  mohan4060
 there  is  no  fish  died(i  think  so)  with  in  an  hour  or  a  day.
 I  my  case  there  is  no  chlorine  at  all  in  my  water  becasue  i  am  using  my  well  water.  So  i  suspect  the  major  problem  with  me  was  impurities  during  the  rainy  season.  My  well  water  have  some  colour  change  during  the  rainy  season.
 I  feel  the  same  problem  in  two  rainy  seasons  .Thant  is  the  only  one  reason  i  go  with  the  PP  treatment.
 
 Can  you  please  let  me  know  the  hypo  is  act  as  a  parasite  killer?  i  dont  know  about  that.I  hope  Hypo  is  just  a  water  conditioner.  So  It  will  be  great  if  you  give  me  some  light  on  this.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 Hello  Ratheesh,  
 
 Could  you  please  let  us  know:  
 1.  dosage  of  PP  
 2.  amount  of  water  in  the  BB  tank  
 3.  duration  of  the  bath  
 4.  No.  and  size  of  the  discus  you  treated.  
 
 I  have  one  juvenile  with  this  dreaded  disease.  Its  condition  is  not  improving  even  by  one  percent,  so  atleast  I  can  take  a  chance  with  your  treatment  ...  else  I  know  the  end  is  going  to  be  fatal.  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: Re: My two inch discuss swimming erratically Reply with quote

 @SumanG
 
 Sorry.  I  missed  your  previous  question.
 The  below  is  the  dosage  i  used  .The  advise  i  got  from  Shiva  Sir.
 PP  dosage  200  mg  for  100  ltrs  of  water  for  24  hrs  ,  Ph  should  not  be  more  then  7.5  .  it  works  best  at  7  .  
 Pl  ensure  there  is  no  formalin  or  any  Formalin  based  medicine  in  the  water  .  
 No  heater  ,  and  heavy  aeration  is  required
 .
 
 I  had  treated  them  for   3  times  just  like
 Day  one  ------  day  day  4----day  7.
 I  do  a  massive  water  change  after  treating  them.Also  it  is  better  to  avoid  Feeding  during  the  PP  .Thats  why  i  had  done  the  treatment  in  1  ,  4  ,  7  days  .
 My  tank  is  3.5  x1.5x1.5  and  had  10  discus  was  there  in  that  time.
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Can  you  please  let  me  know  the  hypo  is  act  as  a  parasite  killer?  i  dont  know  about  that.I  hope  Hypo  is  just  a  water  conditioner.                

 Hypo  (Sodium  Thiosulfate)  dechlorinates  tapwater,  widely  used  in  discus  hatcheries  for  multiple  WCs.
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