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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: Pico Planted in the making Very Happy Update,Spreading Glosso. Reply with quote

 Hey  Guys!
 
 so  far  this  is  my  3  rd  planted  tank  which  im  making  after  my  1ft  cube,  and  my  18  inch  cube  :D
 
 so  now  i  wanna  make  something  like  this  
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg3Xko6EgEw
 
 or
 
 the  first  tank  in  this  vid
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg-EhvH2pxE&feature=related
 
 
 
 I  need  some  help  in  DIY  ing  the  substrate,  i  dont  want  to  be  spending  a  lot  on  the  substrate  like  ADA  or  so.
 i  can  get  laterite,cocopeat,organic  compost,river  sand.
 combination  of  these  is  a  good  diy  substrate?
 
 what  all  plants  can  i  add?
 i  prefer  carpeting  plants  and  few  longrooting  ones.
 
 i  thinking  of  pico  planted  type,
 either  1ft  cube
 or  12x9x9
 or  10x10x10
 something  like  that.
 with  DIY  co2
 
 thanks  in  advance!  Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 
 
 
 So  here  is  the  tank!
 
 and  noone  has  replied  :(
 
 common  guys?  any  ideas  on  what  plants?  
 im  using  vermi  compost,organic  manure  and  some  ordrinary  sand..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 What  is  the  substrate  in  the  picture?
 
 By  the  looks  of  the  ingredients,  it  will  be  a  good  one  for  algae  growth.  
 
 To  begin  with  -  what  plants  do  you  want  to  have  in  this  tank?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

                                                   
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 i  prefer  carpeting  plants  and  few  longrooting  ones.                  

 
 It  mainly  depends  on  the  lighting  that  you  are  planning  to  keep  for  the  tank  and  CO2.  As  to  my  knowledge  most  of  the  carpet  plants  need  good  light  and  CO2.  (Correct  me  if  I  am  wrong).   I  think  marsilea  sp  can  be  grown  in  medium  light  and  no  CO2  (but  growth  will  be  slow).  
 
 Since  your  tank  height  is  small,  I  think  it  would  be  difficult  for  the  DIY  substrate.  Am  I  right?  Members  who  have  used  DIY  substrate  could  provide  their  views.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 hi  deepak,
 
 just  the  pic  of  the  tank  which  houses  guppy  fries  :D
 
 the  substrate  is  gravel(black)  ,  not  yet  put  any  Substrate  for  planted  yet..
 
 i  have  cocpeat,vermi  compost,laterite  readily  available  at  home.  but  i  still  dunno  how  much  and  in  what  proportions  to  use  it.  
 or  do  u  think  i  must  just  add  ADA  or  aquaclay  or  something  like  that?
 i  want  to  put  some  carpeting  plants  (thats  it)  and  a  few  shrimps  in  it.
 maybe  plants  like  HC,or  glosso  or  dwarf  hairgrass..
 which  one  would  spred  out  the  fastest  and  which  one  is  the  easiest  to  grow?
 
 The  tank  dimernsions
 12x6x6.  its  very  small  pico  tank  Smile
 does  it  require  DIY  co2  or  any  co2  at  all?
 
 thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

                                                   
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 i  prefer  carpeting  plants  and  few  longrooting  ones.                  

 
 It  mainly  depends  on  the  lighting  that  you  are  planning  to  keep  for  the  tank  and  CO2.  As  to  my  knowledge  most  of  the  carpet  plants  need  good  light  and  CO2.  (Correct  me  if  I  am  wrong).   I  think  marsilea  sp  can  be  grown  in  medium  light  and  no  CO2  (but  growth  will  be  slow).  
 
 Since  your  tank  height  is  small,  I  think  it  would  be  difficult  for  the  DIY  substrate.  Am  I  right?  Members  who  have  used  DIY  substrate  could  provide  their  views.                

 
 allright  shelly!
 thanks  :)
 
 the  tank  dimensions  12x6x6.
 do  u  think  a  1  or  1.5kg  of  ADA  will  do  for  this  tank?  since  all  are  small  carpeting  plants,  i  will  go  for  DIY  co2.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 Hey  Nick,
 For  carpet  plants  you  need  more  light  and  Co2.
 For  glosso  and  HC  the  lighting  should  be  approx,  2-3  WPG  (Watt  per  gallon).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 I  would  like  to  share  how  I  like  to  go  when  I  am  planning  for  a  tank...I  am  also  a  newbie.
 
 Plants...Not  seeing  other  than  HG  or  HG  or  glosso...height  is  the  main  factor..
 
 Substrate...you  have  thought  of  DIY...just  try  to  get  enough  information  about  usage  of  DIY  substrate...as  Shelly  said,1)  it  will  be  difficult  as  the  substrate  height  will  be  minimum  2inch...1inc  for  the  fertile  and  1inch  for  the  inert...but  I  personally  use  DIY  only...  "organic  manure"  is  not  at  al  suggested...it  will  cause  only  algae.  
 
 Then  comes  the  lighting...nano  tank  as  far  I  know  dont  have  any  particular  rule  of  wattage.  
 
 Then  comes  the  filtration...HOB  is  the  only  option...and  frequent  water  change.
 
 Then  comes  the  scape...as  you  have  very  less  option,  still  you  can  work...a  lot  on  scape.  Use  small  thin  drift  wood...small  stones...it  can  give  you  a  good  scape...
 this  tank  reminds  me  of  one  of  my  hardscape  only...
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=251726&highlight=experiment+parthapratim#251726   Very Happy  
 
 Have  this  clear  picture  in  mind  then  it  will  be  easier  for  you  to  go  for  a  new  start.  As  you  are  a  victim  of  MTS,  me  too  Chuckle  ,  so  maintenance  is  also  a  factor...
 
 Best  of  luck...I  love  Nano  and  DIY...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 Yes  I  forgot  about  CO2,  it  is  same  important  as  plant  selection...but  what  I  am  going  to  do  in  my  new  tank  is  to  put  it  DSM  for  two  three  months...to  avoid  the  initial  algae  issue  and  CO2  issue...but  when  you  will   flood  it,  you  have  to  provide  huge  amount  of  CO2  to  get  the  carpet  in  the  same  form  as  it  will  be  DSM....my  CO2  is  always  DIY...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

                                                   
Nick993  wrote  (View  Post):                
 do  u  think  a  1  or  1.5kg  of  ADA  will  do  for  this  tank?  since  all  are  small  carpeting  plants,  i  will  go  for  DIY  co2.                

 
 If  you  are  planning  to  have  1"  height  substrate,  then  1kg  would  be  sufficient.  But  if  you  need  height  at  the  back,  then  1.5kg.
 
 Choose  the  substrate  height  based  on  the  plants  that  you  are  planning  to  keep.  For  carpet  plants,  1inch  substrate  height  would  be  sufficient.  I  would  suggest  to  increase  the  height  at  the  back  to  keep  the  stone.  So  that  it  gives  a  mountain  slope  kind  look.
 
 What  is  the  light  that  you  are  planning  to  keep  for  the  tank.  As  the  selection  of  the  plants  also  depends  on  the  lighting  wattage  that  you  have.  So  decide  the  light  and  then  choose  the  right  carpet  plant.   Thumb Up  
 
 Will  wait  for  your  updates   Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 You  may  even  try  carpeting  with  Riccia.  
 
 Riccia  Carpet
 
 
 Link1
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 You  can  try  this  scape  too..  With  this  you  can  avoid  using  any  fertile  soil!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Another Nano in the making Very Happy Reply with quote

 parthapratim  and  Shelly
 
 thanks  for  the  advice  and  topic   and  pictures:)
   for  1.8  gallon  tank,   my  HOB  is  not  even  fitting  it  and  Litre  per  house  displace  is  too  massive  for  the  tank.   so  i  decided  ill  just  go  with  water  changes.
 i  got  myself  both  AQUA  CLAY  and  ADA  AMAZONIA  II.  both  1  kg  of  it.  and  im  using  them  both.
 im  not  going  with  DIY  substrate  in  this  nano  tank,  more  likely  PICO  tank..
 
 
 so  guys  here  are  the  specs
 
 tank:12x6x6  (super  pico  Razz)
 Substrate  :  3/4  kg  Aqua  clay  3/4  kg  ADA  Amazonia  
 Co2:DIY
 Lighting  :  So  far  a  16W  CFL,from  a  lamp  Very Happy
 Plants:  Glosso  Stigma  in  the  front,  Dwarf  Sagittaria  in  the  back
 
 
 
 so  far  thats  it!  here  are  some  pics..water  has  to  still  clear  up..
 planning  to  keep  some  shrimps..
 how  many  can  i  keep  in  the  tank?
 i  guess  ill  upgrade  the  tank  in  a  few  days  to  a  little  bigger  nano  :)
 
 
 
 
 
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 Hey  Nick,
 Nice  start  up..  All  the  best..  
 Which  fert  wil  you  use  for  your  nano??
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 Talking  abt  shrimp  someone  in  the  forum  rightly  pointed  somewher  that  is  now  you  who  decide  how  many  you  can  keep  but  its  them  because  the  are  multiply  very  fast.  
 
 16  W  light  would  be  good  enough  for  this  tank  taking  in  concideration  the  size  and  the  depth  but  IMO  a  16W  PLL  placed  horizontaly  would  have  helped  in  even  distribution  of  light  throughout  the  tank.
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Hey  Nick,
 Nice  start  up..  All  the  best..  
 Which  fert  wil  you  use  for  your  nano??                

 
 still  havent  thought  of  ferts  already.  Maybe  nothing  i  guess  :/
 just  lights  and  co2.  ill  be  upgrading  soon..to  a  wider  and  taller  tank..Just  no  more  space  in  my  house  for  more  tanks  Very Happy
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