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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted tank Reply with quote

 A  warm  hello  to  all  IAH  members.
 
 As  the  subject  says  i  need  u  guys  help  in  setting  up  a  low  tech  planted  tank  
 step  by  step.
 
 4  months  back  i  tried  to  setup  the  same  but  it  was  a  failure  at  that  time.
 
 What  i  did  last  time  was  i  
 in  a  36X15X18  LXBXH  tank  i  used  
 
 substrate  used  was  the  garden  soil  2  inches  layer.
 
 2X36  watss  pll  for  8-  10  hours
 
 bunch  of  amazon,  bacoba  and  hydrila  plants  i  planted  in  the  tank
 
 but  but  but  all  the  plants  died  in  next  15-20  days  and  i  again  switched  back  to  my  bare  bottom  tank.
 
 But  again  bug  of  the  planted  tank  has  bitten  me  very  badly  and  i  thought  of  setting  up  the  planted  tank  once  again.
 
 What  i  have  in  my  hand  now  is  the  tank  and  the  Pll  tubes.
 
 So  waiting  for  the  fellow  members  to  guide  me  step  by  step  to  setup  my  tank  once  again  with  budget  restriction.
 
 What  all  economical  substrate,soil,fertilizers  i  needed  and  from  where  to  get  here  in  Mumbai.
 
 Thanks  In  Advance
 Mansoor  Khan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 possibly  if  u  guys  can  PM  me  the  approximate  costing  of  each  of  the  items  required  for  this  setup
 
 Thanks  
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 47  views  
 but  still  no  reply
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 1)  If  u  r  planing  to  plant  only  amazon,  bacopa  and  hydrilla  u  can  use  normal  golden  river  sand  3inches  minimum  because  amazon  needs  that  much.  Or  u  can  put  red  potting  soil  at  bottom  and  golden  river  gravel  on  top.
 
 2)your  tank  is  approx  42gal  so  lighting  u  willl  need  is  min  2-2.5  wt/gal.  8  hrs  photo  period  is  ok.
 
 3)U  will  need  CO2.  go  for  DIY  setup.
 
 4)amazon  needs  a  lot  of  iron  so  u  will  have  to  dose  seperate  only  iron  fert   with  micro  and  macro.
    (I  am  not  a  fert  expert  my  LFS  makes  all  ferts  for  me  at  cheap  price)
 
 For  costing  and  sources,  mumbai  guys  will  help  u....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Hi  Mansoor,
 garden  soil  has  to  be  topped  with  gravel  or  river  sand  else  it  will  cloud  the  water  and  result  in  algae.
 Your  tank  is  40  gallon  and  the  lights  are  about  1.8  WPG...good  enough  for  a  low  tech  tank.
 What  about  CO2...you  can  use  DIY  or  liquid  source  of  CO2  (I  havent  used  any  of  the  the  two,  so  wait  for  other  people  to  reply)
 You  can  grow  plants  with  low  demands  like  anubias,  hygrophilia,  bacopa,  cabomba  etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 It  is  not  clear  why  did  that  setup  fail.
 I  had  an  old  setup  with  soil  substrate,  sturdy  plants,  and  it  went  on  for  a  long  time,  even  my  angels  spawned  in  that  tank.
 I  have  a  old  photo  of  that  snap.
 For  a  low  tech  planted  tank,  you  do  not  need  anything  else  than  what  you  already  have.
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Smile  
 thanks  man  for  your  reply
 but  i  do  not  want  just  to  grow  amazon,bacopa  and  hydrila
 i  want  make  my  tank  impressive
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

                                                   
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Smile  
 thanks  man  for  your  reply
 but  i  do  not  want  just  to  grow  amazon,bacopa  and  hydrila
 i  want  make  my  tank  impressive                

 
 Try  crypts,  ferns,  java  moss,  anubeas..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Hi  Mansoor,  
 
 You  need  to  buy  red  clay/german  clay  (best)  or  organic  manure  (  from  any  garden  store)  as  a  plant  base.  Then  put  Golden  sand  (size-3mm)  on  the  top  layer.   1.5  to  2  watts  per  gallon  is  sufficient  for  low  light  plants  like  Anubias,  ferns,  mosses,  crypts,  Hemianthus  micranthemum,  mints  and  some  grass  varieties.   you  can  use  diy-  Yeast  based  CO2  with  2  ltr  juice  bottle.
 For  more  details  please  call  me.  
 
 Regards,
 
 Muneer  ahmed  kabir,
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:14 am Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 there  are  no  reasons  why  your  tank  didn't  succeed  in  first  go  ,as  already  mentioned  that  the  condition  provided  was  almost  ideal  for  plant  growth.  some  of  the  obvious  reason  can  be:
 1)  high  temperature
 2)  weak  or  unhealthy  plants  to  start  with.
 3)  height  of  the  tank  (but  shouldn't  be  problematic  with  plants  like  hygrophilla  and  amazon  )
 4)  high  basicity
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 why  dont  u  read  up  on  mineralised  vermicompost  substrates?  they  are  a  great  choice  for  low  light  low  maintenance  tanks,  i  am  speaking  from  experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  all  helpful  people  out  here  for  their  valuable  comments  and  guidance.
 
 Romi  :  Even  i  was  thinking  of  using  the  mineralised  vermicompost  substrates
 Yesterday  i  read  about  this  on  net.
 It  seems  pretty  easy  and  cost  effective.
 Only  thing  is  that  the  plants  selection  for  this  kind  of  substrate.
 I  am  not  yet  able  to  decide  what  to  grow  in  this  substrate  which  will  look  impressive  and  will  be  successful  in  long  run.
 If  you  guys  could  throw  some  light  on  this  then  it  will  be  great.
 Does  this  kind  of  set  up  will  require  to  have  CO2  in  any  form  ?
 I  do  not  want  to  go  for  CO2  even  for  DIY  yeast  mixture  because  i  tried  last  time  but  it  was  leaking  all  the  time  from  the  bottle.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Some  very  basic  point  which  I  learned  would  definitely  like  to  share  with  you...Hope  it  will  help  you...
 
 1)  Substrate:  Dont  try  only  garden  soil,  add  something  with  that  like....vermicompost,  Humus  and  cocopeat...I  think  your  local  planted  hobbyist  will  able  to  manage  you  any  of  this  item.  and  as  a  top  layer  use  building  sand.  Bottom  fertile  layer  2-3inches  top  layer  1-1.5  inches.  if  you  can  trace  SOILRITE  in  you  market  best.
 2)  Plants:  Try  to  collect  most  commonly  available  plant,  do  a  small  study  in  internet,  which  plants  require  less  rich  substrate  and  light...I  think  your  plants  are  quite  OK  for  low  tech...
 3)  Lighting:  you  have  ok  light...but  try  to  increase  near  1wpg  more  for  easy  growth.  you  can  add  one  more  pll.  Height  of  your  tank  is  quite  high…so  you  need  good  light…Also  use  a  proper  reflector  for  better  effectiveness.  
 4)  CO2:  Use  DIY  CO2.
 5)  Filtration:  You  need  a  good  power  filter  for  low  cost  filtration  and  also  weekly  50%  water  change  is  required  for  healthy  growth.
 6)  Fertilizer:  If  you  are  getting  anything  DIY  from  your  local  hobbyist  good  or  else,  but  some  commercial  fertz  including  Macro  and  Micro  and  Iron.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Step by Step help needed to set up a low tech planted ta Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  all  your  responses  and  suggestion.
 
 This  is  what  i  have  zeroed  in  terms  of  substrate
 
 1.  Bottom  most  layer  will  be  an  inch  of  vermicompost.
 2.Second  layer  will  be  and  inch  of  50:50  %  of  vermicompost  and  garden  soil.
 3.1  inch  layer  of  garden  soil.
 4.Top  layer  will  be  again  1  inch  of  either  golden  sand  or  river  sand
 
 Only  change  will  be  there  with  the  light.
 I  will  be  using  3X36  watts  pll  tubes.
 Plants  :  Readily  available  at  LFS  or  at  Natualas  from  bandra.
 
 Do  correct  me  any  thing  for  substrate  or  lights.
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