Home
Home
Forums
Forums
Downloads
Downloads
Account
Account
Advertise on IAH
Main Menu   
 
HomeHome  
    Home
Community  
    Forums
    FAQ
    Content
    Gallery
    Reviews
    Surveys
    Topics
Members  
    Private Messages
    Your Account
    Profile
    Members List
Statistics  
    Statistics
Files & Links  
    Downloads
    Web Links
News  
    News
    Submit News
Other  
    Advertising
    Shout Box
    Site Map
    Recommend Us
    Feedback
    Legal Notices


User Info   
 
Good afternoon 
Anonymous



Register
Lost Password
Username
Password

 Online:   
Member(s):

Guest(s):
01. Guest
02. Guest
03. Guest
04. Guest
05. Guest
06. Guest
07. Guest
08. Guest
09. Guest
10. Guest
11. Guest
12. Guest
13. Guest
14. Guest
15. Guest
16. Guest
17. Guest
18. Guest
19. Guest
20. Guest
21. Guest
22. Guest
23. Guest
24. Guest
25. Guest
26. Guest
27. Guest
28. Guest
29. Guest
30. Guest
31. Guest
32. Guest
33. Guest
34. Guest
35. Guest
36. Guest
37. Guest
38. Guest
39. Guest
40. Guest
41. Guest
42. Guest
43. Guest
44. Guest
45. Guest
46. Guest
47. Guest
48. Guest
49. Guest
50. Guest
51. Guest
52. Guest
53. Guest
54. Guest
55. Guest
56. Guest
57. Guest
58. Guest
59. Guest
60. Guest
61. Guest
62. Guest
63. Guest
64. Guest
65. Guest
66. Guest
67. Guest
68. Guest
69. Guest
70. Guest
71. Guest
72. Guest
73. Guest
74. Guest
75. Guest
76. Guest
77. Guest
78. Guest
79. Guest
80. Guest
81. Guest
82. Guest
83. Guest
84. Guest
85. Guest
86. Guest
87. Guest
88. Guest
89. Guest
90. Guest
91. Guest
92. Guest
93. Guest
94. Guest
95. Guest
96. Guest
97. Guest
98. Guest
99. Guest
100. Guest
101. Guest
102. Guest
103. Guest
104. Guest
105. Guest
106. Guest
107. Guest
108. Guest
109. Guest
110. Guest
111. Guest
112. Guest
113. Guest
114. Guest
115. Guest
116. Guest
117. Guest
118. Guest
119. Guest
120. Guest
121. Guest
122. Guest
123. Guest
124. Guest
125. Guest
126. Guest
127. Guest
128. Guest
129. Guest
130. Guest
131. Guest
132. Guest
133. Guest
134. Guest
135. Guest
136. Guest
137. Guest
138. Guest
139. Guest
140. Guest
141. Guest
142. Guest
143. Guest
144. Guest
145. Guest
146. Guest
147. Guest
148. Guest
149. Guest
150. Guest
151. Guest
152. Guest
153. Guest
154. Guest
155. Guest
156. Guest
157. Guest
158. Guest
159. Guest
160. Guest
161. Guest
162. Guest
163. Guest
164. Guest
165. Guest
166. Guest
167. Guest
168. Guest
169. Guest
170. Guest
171. Guest
172. Guest
173. Guest
174. Guest
175. Guest
176. Guest
177. Guest
178. Guest
179. Guest
180. Guest
181. Guest
182. Guest
183. Guest
184. Guest
185. Guest
186. Guest
187. Guest
188. Guest
189. Guest
190. Guest
191. Guest
192. Guest
193. Guest
194. Guest
195. Guest
196. Guest
197. Guest
198. Guest
199. Guest
200. Guest
201. Guest
202. Guest
203. Guest
204. Guest
205. Guest
206. Guest
207. Guest
208. Guest
209. Guest
210. Guest
211. Guest
212. Guest
213. Guest
214. Guest
215. Guest
216. Guest
217. Guest
218. Guest
219. Guest
220. Guest
221. Guest
222. Guest
223. Guest
224. Guest
225. Guest
226. Guest
227. Guest
228. Guest

Most Ever Online:   
 Guest(s): 464
 Member(s): 16
 Total: 480

Forums Forums:   
 Posts: 339,826
 Topics: 30,772




http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/ :: View topic - Seal hunters expected to kill 234,000 Wednesday
Forum Index  |  Search  |  Usergroups  |  Edit your profile  |  Members  |  Log in to check your private messages
Ranks  |  Staff  |  Statistics  |  Board Rules  |  Forum FAQ  |  Log in



Seal hunters expected to kill 234,000 Wednesday

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic   printer-friendly view    http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/ Forum Index -> Chit Chat
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
ClownyGirl
Frequent Visitor to IAH
Frequent Visitor to IAH



Joined: Aug 05, 2005
Posts: 212
Location: Mumbai

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: Seal hunters expected to kill 234,000 Wednesday Reply with quote

 http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/04/12/seal.hunt.ap/index.html
 
   Sad    Thumb Down    Crying or Very sad    Sad  [/url]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gokulin
Regular Poster on IAH
Regular Poster on IAH



Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Posts: 1277
Location: Coimbatore

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Tats  pretty  worse.......  Thumb Down
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
psimhan
Committed Member of IAH
Committed Member of IAH



Joined: Jan 06, 2006
Posts: 2053
Location: Bangalore

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 That's  pretty  bad  for  the  seals  but  on  the  other  hand,  thousands  of  families  will  survive  on  the  money.
 Plus  its  sustainable  as  well  as  strictly  regulated  so  its  better  than  wiping  out  the  seals  illegally.
 Before  you  start  berating  me  think  of  the  millions  of  chickens,  goats,  sheep,  pigs,  cows  slaughtered  every  day.
 
 p.s.  wrong  forum.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Madan
Admin
Admin



Joined: Jun 29, 2003
Posts: 7084
Location: Bengaluru, India

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 I  agree  killing  seals  is  grusome.
 
 But  no  one  seems  to  be  suggesting  an  alternative.  Is  someone  willing  to  take  care  of  the  seals  and  house  them?
 
 Last  month  I  was  watching  birds  -  chicken,  turkey  etc.,  from  countries  afflicted  by  bird  flu,  being  killed  by  suffocation  in  plastic  bags.  It's  as  grusome,  but  none  of  the  environmentalists  were  any  where  near  the  bird  farms,  with  an  alternative.  Too  scared  of  bird  flu  perhaps?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gokulin
Regular Poster on IAH
Regular Poster on IAH



Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Posts: 1277
Location: Coimbatore

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 I  don't  think  they  killed  diseased  seals
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger
Madan
Admin
Admin



Joined: Jun 29, 2003
Posts: 7084
Location: Bengaluru, India

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Well  then  suggest  an  alternative  for  the  seals?
 
 I  agree  that  what  is  going  on  is  cruel.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sandeepraghuvanshi
Moderator
Moderator



Joined: Aug 19, 2005
Posts: 4895
Location: Mathura, UP

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi  Madan
 I  don't  think  that  these  are  artifically  raised  seals.  They  seem  to  be  issuing  licences  for  a  annual  hunt  type  of  thing.
 If  they  are  left  as  usual  in  wild,  I  don't  think  it  would  be  a  bad  idea.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Madan
Admin
Admin



Joined: Jun 29, 2003
Posts: 7084
Location: Bengaluru, India

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:47 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 What  I  have  garnered  so  far  is  that  this  annual  hunt  is  to  control  the  seal  population,  and  is  strictly  regulated.
 
 Banging  them  on  the  head  is  the  cheapest  way  of  doing  it.
 It's  cruel.  I  agree.
 
 People  protesting  the  killing  are  not  contesting  the  fact  that  the  seals  need  culling,  only  the  method  of  execution.
 
 Well,  I  don't  see  them  suggesting  an  alternative,  a  more  "seal"  friendly  method,  if  that  were  ever  possible,  and  help  in  raising  resources  either  for  their  upkeep  in  case  culling  is  stopped  or  their  termination.
 
 My  only  grouse  with  many  of  these  environmentalist  protesters  is  they  just  about  protest  everything,  but  talk  to  them  about  helping  with  alternatives,  then  they  come  out  with  "we  have  done  our  job  exposing  and  raising  a  stink"  it's  not  our  problem  finding  alternatives,  you  do  the  rest.
 
 I  prefer  they  carry  on  their  protest  a  bit  further  and  come  out  with  viable  alternatives.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
madhu_ulysses
Committed Member of IAH
Committed Member of IAH



Joined: Oct 28, 2004
Posts: 2450
Location: Salem, TN

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:40 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 One  more  thing  i  dont  get  with  environmental  activists  is  Why  are  they  always  concerned  about  bigger  life  forms?    If  ACAP  can  make  Amitabh  Bachan,  Tendulkar  &  Jackie  Chan  talk  for  tiger  conservation,  why  aren't  they  able  to  get  someone  to  speak  about  Canarensis  conservation  or  concervation  of  Madagascar  cichlids?    As  the  same  we've  seen  hundreds  going  around  Turtle  &  Shark  conservation  but  until  now  i  haven't  found  a  single  conservation  program  on  Coral  Reef  Bleaching  which  is  even  more  worse  than  the  extinction  of  sharks.    IMHO,  raising  an  issue  doesn't  mean  much  until  a  solution  is  brought  about.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Sibesh
Frequent Visitor to IAH
Frequent Visitor to IAH



Joined: Jun 03, 2005
Posts: 207
Location: Kolkata

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:00 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 The  problem  is  that  it's  very  easy  to  protest  against  some  thing  rather  than  finding  the  proper  solution.
 Controlling  some  species  required  when  there  is  some  serious  problem  in  the  eco  system  they  are  living  in.  For  eg,  seals  are  growing  in  numbers  astronomically  because  the  factors  controlling  it's  numbers  are  getting  vanished  day  by  day.  Natural  hunter  for  the  seals  are  polar  bears  and  whales.  but  Polar  bears  are  now  in  the  verge  of  extintion  because  of  global  warming  and  whales  are  haunted  by  human  in  huge  numbers.  So  there  is  no  natural  control  on  the  population  of  seals.
 Same  thing  is  happening  with  Deers  in  some  part  of  the  world,  there  also  annual  huntings  event  are  beeing  organised  to  control  it's  number.
 
 Sibesh
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ClownyGirl
Frequent Visitor to IAH
Frequent Visitor to IAH



Joined: Aug 05, 2005
Posts: 212
Location: Mumbai

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: Reactions from our American and Canadian friends Reply with quote

 I  am  also  part  of  a  web  fish  community  at  a  different  site,  and  here  are  some  of  the  reactions:
 
 http://www.fishprofiles.com/files/threads/28411.1.htm?4#
 
 While  one  has  posted  an  article  on  the  myth,  the  truth  remains  that  these  seals  are  culled  for  their  commercial  benefits.  Seal  products  are  a  big  rage  in  Norway  and  they  are  exported  out  of  Canada.  The  environmental  reason  being  given  for  the  hunting  is  to  save  CODs  that  are  other  cold  water  fish  for  human  consumption    Thumb Down  
 
 Anyway,  IMO,  environmentalists  do  need  to  take  this  forward,  but  the  local  authorities  are  also  accountable.  I  am  of  the  opinion  that  environmental  issues  or  other  issues  of  importance  do  not  always  need  to  be  pointed  out,  sometimes  govts  need  to  be  proactive.  
 
 Either  way,  I  dont  mean  to  make  this  is  a  geo-political  discussion  but  this  thread  is  only  to  point  out  how  callous  we  as  humans  can  be  with  precious  life    Sad


Last edited by ClownyGirl on Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:56 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
vkv
Regular Poster on IAH
Regular Poster on IAH



Joined: Jan 06, 2006
Posts: 881
Location: Mumbai

Status: Offline
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:  Reply with quote

                                                   
Quote:                
One  more  thing  i  dont  get  with  environmental  activists  is  Why  are  they  always  concerned  about  bigger  life  forms?  If  ACAP  can  make  Amitabh  Bachan,  Tendulkar  &  Jackie  Chan  talk  for  tiger  conservation,  why  aren't  they  able  to  get  someone  to  speak  about  Canarensis  conservation  or  concervation  of  Madagascar  cichlids?                  

 
 Because  nobody  would  listen.  Lets  face  it  -  less  than  1%  of  people  watching  the  ACAP  ads  would  be  concerned  about  a  small  non-descript  fish.
 
 [BEGIN_SOAPBOX]
 The  conservation  of  the  apex  predators  would  enforce  the  protection  of  their  habitat  which  would  include  rivers,  forests  etc  which  would  include  the  habitats  of  fish  as  well.  Every  movement  requires  a  mascot  -  IF  the  ACAP  ads  sensitise  people  towards  nature,  they  have  made  a  mark.  
 We  need  glamorous  creatures  to  get  the  average  person  to  look  up  and  take  notice.
 
 Blaming  environment  activists  is  like  blaming  the  corrupt  systems  of  government.  We  are  part  of  the  problem.  
 Why  don't  we  take  up  the  cause  of  Canarensis?  
 Why  don't  we  raise  the  issue  in  the  appropriate  forums(Legal  etc.)?
 Some  of  us  keep  banned  or  endangered  species...
 
 Do  we  take  umbrage  at  the  destruction  of  the  habitat  of  the  Great  Indian  Bustard?  why  then  should  we  take  offence  at  people  not  chapioning  the  cause  of  Fish?
 Why  are  WE  not  activists  doing  this?  because  it  is  easier  to  just  buy  or  catch  the  fish  and  enjoy  them  in  our  tanks...
 
 [END_SOAPBOX]
 
 I  of  course  am  totally  against  any  form  of  hunting  -  whether  it  is  called  culling  or  any  other  name.    I  agree  with  the  sentiment  that  we  as  a  species  are  losing  respect  for  life(human  and  otherwise)
 
 Sorry  for  the  rant...  :-)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:
Post new topic  Reply to topic   printer-friendly view http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/ Forum Index ->  Chit Chat All times are UTC + 5.5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum




Powered By: phpBB © 2001 - 2006 phpBB Group
Nuke-Evo Conversion By: Evo-Themez | iCGstation v1.0 Template By Ray


[News Feed] [Forums Feed] [Downloads Feed] [Web Links Feed] [Validate robots.txt]


Forum Modification Pack by Revolution-Mods.

PHP-Nuke Copyright © 2006 by Francisco Burzi.
All logos, trademarks and posts in this site are property of their respective owners, all the rest © 2006 by the site owner.
Powered by Nuke-Evolution
[ Page Generation: 6048 Seconds | Memory Usage: 3.08 MB | DB Queries: 113 ]

Do Not Click