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David Lim's approach to discus keeping.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 Friends,
 Wanted  to  share  and  discuss  the  unique  approach  to  discus  keeping  by  Master  discus  breeder  David  Lim  as  portrayed  in  this  seven  year  old  article  from  MondoDiscus.
 Apart  from  laying  stress  on  buying  non  hormone  fed  fish,  the  part  that  amazed  me  most  was  where  he  states  that  he  does  not  use  any  anti  chlorine,  neither  age  water  and  uses  direct  tap  water  to  do  those  massive  200%  WCs.
 He  emphasizes  on  acclimatizing  all  his  fishes  to  such  harsh  conditions  so  as  to  ensure  that  his  buyers  never  faces  problems  with  discus  water  conditions.
 With  many  members  on  IAH  (including  myself)  being  quite  fussy  about  water  conditions  (so  many  threads  have  been  dedicated  to  the  legendary  HYPO  and  even  activated  charcoal),can  we  consider  David  as  plain  lucky  with  ideal  water  condition  in  his  farm  or  are  we  overdoing  it?
 Surely  a  man  with  so  many  Grand  Champions  under  his  belt  must  be  knowing  his  facts  well.
 On  a  personal  note  I  have  stopped  using  hypo  for  a  pretty  long  time,never  age  water  and  though  none  of  my  fishes  are  juveniles,I  do  not  have  chlorine  related  problems.
 What  do  you  say?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 We  can't  compare  Singapore  water  to  our  water  can  we?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 Beta,
 Well  said.  Here  we  cant  even  have  faith  on  bottled  drinking  water.
 Tap  water  is  a  well  a  longggggg  story.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

                                                   
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We  can't  compare  Singapore  water  to  our  water  can  we?                

 
 Beta,I  really  do  not  have  any  idea  about  Singapore  water  parameters  but  pH  readings  of  7.8-8.2,presence  of  chlorine,chloramine  and  conditions  described  as  "harsh"  by  the  breeder  himself  do  not  speak  too  well  of  the  water  either.
 Seasoned  warhorses  in  discus  keeping  like  yourself,  who  are  familiar  with  water  conditions  there,  can  throw  some  light  on  the  prevalent  tap  water  conditions  of  Singapore  and  how  other  breeders  prepare  their  water  for  daily  use.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 No  where  in  this  article  David  lim  had  mentioned  that  he  is  not  using  Anti  Chlorine  .  Discus  will  not  tolerate  even  a  slight  dose  of  Chlorine  .  All  breeders  in  Singapore  use  Anti  Chlorine  during   WC  if  they  are  using  tap  water  directly  .  
 
 I  think  he  mean  to  say  ,  he  is  not  using  any  additives  for  conditioning  the  water  ,  but  yes   anti  Chlorine   is  must  to  neutralize  the  Chlorine  .
 Do  you  think  Neutralizer  and  additives  are  same  ?
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  clarification  Shivada!
 I  definitely  overlooked  the  neutralizer  part.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 David  Lim  is  no  more  in  Discus  breeding  ,  If  I  am  not  mistaken  Fishotribe  had  closed  down  three  years  back  ,  his  scarlet  and  crimson  LSS  were  famous  .  Ref  the  below  link  ,  in  which  he  had  mentioned  about  the  water  conditioning   .
 
 
 http://sg.88db.com/Pets/Pets-For-Sale/ad-124266/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

                                                   
Discusolic  wrote  (View  Post):                
David  Lim  is  no  more  in  Discus  breeding  ,  If  I  am  not  mistaken  Fishotribe  had  closed  down  three  years  back                

 David  sold  his  'Fishio  Tribe'  business  to  guy  named  Kelvin  who  was  running  under  the  name  'Shoal  Haven'  for  few  years  later.  Kelvin  was  catering  quality  discus  during  his  tenure.  I  had  imported  few  spotted  discus  from  Kelvin  &  he  was  a  genuinely  honest  person  like  David  himself.  However,  this  shop  also  closed  down  later.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: David Lim's approach to discus keeping. Reply with quote

 Shivada,
 The  link  you  shared  with  us  clears  all  my  doubts.
 Contradictory  as  they  may  seem,the  missing  link  now  seems  to  be  the  water  purification  unit  serving  as  a  neutralizer.
 Thanks  again!
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