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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 Dear  all,
 
 i  am  jai  for  hyderabad.  I  have  a  6  feet  chichlid  tank.  I  installed  it  6  months  ago.  But  i  have  been  facing  issues  with  my  tank.  I  have  created  a  rocky  set  up  with  layer  of  gravel  for  the  fishes  to  play.  I  feed  the  fishes  twice  a  day  at  fixed  timings.  I  have  a  heater  to  keep  the  temperature  constant  despite  weather  changes.  There  are  two  submersible  filters  that  are  functioning  for  24  hrs.  I  follow  a  very  strict  and  regular  cleaning  procedure.  I  change  30%  of  the  water  every  two  weeks  and  put  mineral  salts  to  keep  the  equilibrium  and  chemical  consistency  of  the  water  the  same.
 
 I  observe  phases  of  agrression  in  the  tank,  reasons  for  which  are  not  clear  to  me.  Also  a  lot  of  fishes  have  been  dying  since  i  set  up  the  tank.It  has  now  become  a  constant  worry  to  add  more  fish.The  strange  part  is  that  not  only  new  fishes  but  also  the  old  ones  are  dying.
 
 I  have  the  following  fishes  :  blue  dolphins,  yellow  morphs,  fire  mouths,  texas,  oscar  ,  rainbow  sharks,  red  kodango,  five  colour  morphs,red  parrots  ,  severems,  sea  angles,  red  top  chichilids,  blue  rainbows,  yellow  peacoks,  blue  jovans  ,  a  pleco.
 
 Can  anyone  advice  me  what  i  can  do  to  prevent  my  fishes  from  dying?  Does  anyone  know  why  this  is  happening?  Also  can  anyone  suggest  how  to  create  a  more  natural  equilibrium  for  the  fishes  ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

                                                   
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 I  have  the  following  fishes  :  blue  dolphins,  yellow  morphs,  fire  mouths,  texas,  oscar  ,  rainbow  sharks,  red  kodango,  five  colour  morphs,red  parrots  ,  severems,  sea  angles,  red  top  chichilids,  blue  rainbows,  yellow  peacoks,  blue  jovans  ,  a  pleco.
 
                 

 
 OMG   Surprised   ,  too  many  diffferent  types  of  Chichlids  species  in  one  tank.
 Chichlid  should  be  kept  as  per  their  species  to  avoid  agression.
 Picture  of  tank  would  help  to  guide  you  further.
 
 thanks  and  regards,
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 16-17  type  of  fish  in  the  tank  and  you  have  not  indicated  how  many  of  these  fish  do  you  have.
 
 Firstly,  it  would  be  wise  to  start  with  fewer  fish  in  the  tank  and  let  it  stabilize.      Also,  the  source  of  the  fish  is  important.      Are  you  sure  they  don't  have  gill  flukes,  fin  rot,  white  spots   or  any  such  issue?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 What  are  the  other  two  dimension  of  the  tank.
 There  are  too  many  Chichlids  mixed  in  this  setup.
 Only  the  strongest  will  survive.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 below  is  the  link  to  the  video  of  my  tank.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvn-kDfW39M
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 Hey,  I  am  no  expert,  but  few  suggestions/observations  from  me.
 
 1.  Do  not  keep  hiding  places  for  cichlids,  if  you  can  not  provide  them  enough  of  them,  as  the  competetion  will  arise  for  hiding  areas  resulting  in  aggression.  (  I  am  using  completely  empty  tank  with  out  gravel/pots,  fishes  are  all  fine)
 2.  There  is  no  way  you  can  decrease  the  current  of  the  filter.  I  found  a  method  for  this.  I  took  a  small  pot  and  made  a  hole  to  the  side  of  it  using  haxaflame  blade.  Now  this  hole  is  inserted  to  the  nozzle  of  the  filter,  where  air  comes  out.  The  current  hits  the  inner  part  of  the  pot  and  goes  out  from  the  top  through  the  actual  hole,  not  irritating  any  fish.)  .   I  will  post  a  pic  of  the  soon.
 
 BTW.nice  tank.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 sry  to  hear  your  fishes  are  dying  now  few  things  we  can  do  thats  just  my  advice
 1.  Reduce  ┬ánumber  of  fishes  that  are  there  return  them  let  the  tank  settle  down  a  bit  then  add  fishes  1  by  1  slowly.
 2.  Check  fish  compability  on  google  many  articles  r  there.
 3.Avoid  mixing  american  an  african  fishes  because  both  have  different  food  and  water  requirements  choose  1  group.
 4.  Reduce  water  flow  from  filter  i  belive  u  also  got  some  caps  with  filter  to  redirect  the  flow  or  even  better  if  affordable  get  1  external  filter.
 5.  what  are  you  feeding  feed  quality  pellets  to  your  fish.
 6.if  u  going  with  option  of  african  ┬ácichlids  create  more  hiding  places  with  more  rock  work  
 7.  If  ┬ápossible  change  the  water  chaning  regime  to  25%-30%  every  week.
 Keep  some  patiance  and  1  more  important  thing  check  water  paramaters  like  for  nitrates  and  other  componants.
 Lets  hope  all  will  be  fine  for  u  now.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 thank  you  all  for  your  sugesstions  !  I  guess  i  need  to  re  look  at  the  mix  of  fishes  i  have..
 
 the  following  are  the  noumber  of  fishes  i  have  :   
 
 blue  dolphins-2
   yellow  morphs-2
   fire  mouths-2red  and  2  yellow
   texas-1
 oscar  -1
 rainbow  sharks-2
   five  colour  morph-1
 red  parrots-2
 severems-2
 blue  jovan-1
 jewel-1
 pleco-1
 
 dimensions  of  the  tank  are  :  6  feet  long  ,  12  inches  wide  ,  and  18  inches  high
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 Your  tank  is  well  setup.  
 Less  amount  of  fish  will  definitely  help
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 unfortunate  most  of  your  fish  does  not  have  pairs,  does  that  mean  they  are  the  those  fish  which  died?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 you  can  go  with  the  following  cobination
 
 Africans
 blue  dolphins
 yellow  morphs-
 five  colour  morph
 jewel
 pleco
 
 Americans
 fire  mouths-2red  and   i  dont  know  if  yellow  firemouth  exist  (share  pics  of  that  if  possible)
 texas-1  i  think  wont  do  good  with  12  inch  depth
 oscar  -1  i  think  wont  do  good  with  12  inch  depth  
 red  parrots  may  work  personally  i  dont  like  them
 severems
 pleco  for  now
 rainbow  shark  may  work
 you  can  try  convicts  or  salvins  or  hrps  etc  
 dont  know  what  blue  jovan  is  pic  please.
 
 try  google  you  will  get  many  options  to   keep
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 I'm  trying  fish  keeping  of  Cichlids  and  this  threat  is  really  helpful  for  me  to  decide  on  what  combination  of  Cichlids  to  go  for  and  how  to  save  them.  Thanks  to  all  of  you!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 hello  all  !
 
 yes  this  means  that  all  those  who  died  are  the  ones  who  dont  have  pairs.  also  there  were  others  who  died  (both  pairs)
 
 i  noticed  that  the  blue  dolphins  are  very  very  agreessive.  I  am  now  not  very  clear  on  whether  i  shld  let  these  fishes  be  or  change  the   combination.  
 
 Can  anyone  give  me  a  clear  suggestion  on  what  my  nest  step  shld  be.
 
 Please  someone  who  has  had  similar  experiences  with  chichlids  help  me.  I  do  not  want  to  just  try  something  and  keep  losing  fishes.  I  have  already  lost  around  17  fishes.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Chilchild Tank problem Reply with quote

 REMOVE  MALAWIANS!!!
 Your  "yellow  morph"  will  kill  everything  like  it  did  in  my  tank  1  year  ago.  Killed  my  Beautiful  GT!  
 i  regret  to  this  moment.
 
 IF  u  go  for  africans  like  sumit  told,  u  need  to  create  more  hiding  spaces,  like  caves.
 
 And  if  american,  i  think  your  tank  is  small.  a  oscar  grows  very  fast  and  HUGE,  1  Oscar  itself  needs  75  gallons  of  water.
 PLEASE  remove  and  put  compatible  fish,  if  not  u  will  see  multiple  deaths  SOON!
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 i  think  remove  oscar  and  parrot  from  your  list  and  beware  yellow  morphs  are  attacking  eventually  just  keep  2  or  4  and  i  appreciate  convict  but  not  suggest  selvani  or  severum  ,  more  blue  morph  is  also  good  keep  jwels  in  pair  keep  two  fire  mouth
   and  its  true  blue  dolphin  is  aggressive  but  keep  two  
 
 increase  tank  width  to  15  inch
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