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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 Hi  Guys,
 
 I  will  be  moving  within  the  next  few  days  and  was  wondering  if  I  should  use  this  opportunity  to  go  for  a  bigger  tank  I  always  wanted.  
 
 My  current  tank  is  a  70g  which  works  on  a  canister  filter  and  does  not  have  a  sump.  Iv  always  struggled  with  the  water  parameters  with  this  tank,  ammonia  and  nitrite  are  zero  but  my  nitrate  and  phosphate  levels  are  always  high.  Way  too  high  actually.  
 
 I  was  thinking  of  going  in  for  a  new  tank.  What  is  the  suggested  size  of  the  tank  I  should  go  for?  If  I  go  for  a  tank  above  150g  will  the  water  and  live  rock  from  my  existing  tank  help  cycle  faster?  What  can  i  do  with  my  live  stock?  Can  I  house  them  in  a  small  tank  which  I  will  run  with  my  canister  filter  as  a  make  shift  arrangement  till  the  main  tank  completely  cycles?  
 
 I  have  the  following  livestock  at  the  moment.  
 
 1)  2"  Yellow  Tang  -  1  Nos
 2)  False  Percula  -  1  Nos
 3)  Tomato  CLown  -  1  Nos
 4)  Black  and  White  Clown  -  1  Nos
 5)  Club  Anemones  -  6  Nos
 6)  Carpet  Anemone  -  1  Nos
 7)  Feather  Tube  Worms  -  2  Nos
 Cool  Zooanthids  -  4  Nos
 9)  Daisy  Corals  -  2  Nos
 
 Any  suggestions  welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 Gokul.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 You  can  use  your  existing  live  rock  and  sand  to  help  the  tank  cycle  faster.  But  go  slow,  with  initial  feedings  and  increase  gradually.
 
 Temporary  housing  the  livestock  in  a  small  tank  with  the  same  canister  filter  (without  washing  media)  will  also  work.
 
 How  big??  Well.....  How  much  money  you  got?     ROFL
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 Shifting  house  is  one  hell  of  a  time  for  aquarists,  My  advice  is  ,  If  you  are  not  moving  to  your  own  place  then  keep  your  present  set  up  and  up  grade  other  equipmets..  like  sump..
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 If  you  are  moving  to  your  own  house,  then  definitely  you  can  go  for  a  bigger  tank..  otherwise  again  while  changing  house,  shifting  bigger  tanks  would  be  very   troublesome  ..
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 Hey  Guys,
 
 Thanks  for  the  replies.  I  am  moving  into  my  own  house.  I  am  actually  planning  to  sell  my  livestock  if  possible  and  go  through  the  whole  cycle  process  again  properly  with  a  bigger  tank  which  will  give  me  a  much  better  chance  of  going  for  the  reef  tank  I  always  wanted.  
 
 What  kind  of  pumps  should  I  go  for  a  180g  tank  guys?  will  6000g/hr  pump  be  good  enough?
 
 Do  I  need  to  go  for  the  expensive  wave  makers  like  MP40's  or  can  I  do  ok  with  regular  pumps  for  water  movement?  And  whats  the  qty  of  live  rock  I  would  need  for  such  a  tank?
 
 What  is  the  size  of  sand  bed  I  should  go  for????
 
 So  many  questions  guys.  Pls  give  me  any  input  which  u  can.  Do's  and  Dont's
 
 I  will  start  a  thread  for  the  build  soon.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 You  need  to  figure  out  what  you  want  to  keep.....
 
 Are  you  a  fish  person  or  a  coral  guy?
 
 You  want  a  FO,  FOWLR,  Softy,  LPS,  SPS  or  NPS?
 
 For  any  suggestions,  you  need  the  answers  to  the  above...
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 What  about  sump???
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

                                                   
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You  need  to  figure  out  what  you  want  to  keep.....
 
 Are  you  a  fish  person  or  a  coral  guy?
 
 You  want  a  FO,  FOWLR,  Softy,  LPS,  SPS  or  NPS?
 
 For  any  suggestions,  you  need  the  answers  to  the  above...                

 
 My  answer  to  that  would  be  a  perfect  reef  setup  :)
 
 realistically  speaking  there  rant  many  good  corals  available.  I  would  want  my  tank  to  support  basic  corals  like  mushrooms,  zoos,  daisy's,  leather  and  stuff  like  that.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

                                                   
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What  about  sump???
 
 Tks
 KS                

 
 I  think  ill  go  for  a  three  foot  sump
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 As  of   the  size  of  the  sump,  and  height  of  the  stand  etc..
 
 I  would  suggest  you  decide  on  a  good  quality,  big  size  skimmer,  reactors,  return  pump  and  other  equipment's  that  you  would  require  for  a  reef  tank.  See  how  much  space  you  require  for  easy  maintenance  and  then  make  the  sump  accordingly.
 
 While  deciding  on  the  size  of  your  display  tank,  there  are  a  few  things  to  be  kept  in  mind  and  if  your  going  to  be  able  to  afford  it  and  willing  to  put  in  the  effort.
 
 1.  Volume  of  weekly  water  changes.
 
 2.  Amount  of  lighting  required.
 
 3.  Maintenance  cost.  (Electricity  Bill,  Salt,  various  media,  supplements,  etc)
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

                                                   
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As  of  ┬áthe  size  of  the  sump,  and  height  of  the  stand  etc..
 
 I  would  suggest  you  decide  on  a  good  quality,  big  size  skimmer,  reactors,  return  pump  and  other  equipment's  that  you  would  require  for  a  reef  tank.  See  how  much  space  you  require  for  easy  maintenance  and  then  make  the  sump  accordingly.
 
 While  deciding  on  the  size  of  your  display  tank,  there  are  a  few  things  to  be  kept  in  mind  and  if  your  going  to  be  able  to  afford  it  and  willing  to  put  in  the  effort.
 
 1.  Volume  of  weekly  water  changes.
 
 2.  Amount  of  lighting  required.
 
 3.  Maintenance  cost.  (Electricity  Bill,  Salt,  various  media,  supplements,  etc)                

 
 Discussed  the  size  of  the  aquarium  with  my  LFS  guy.  He  suggested  that  I  got  for  a  4'  height  2'  width  and  2.5'  height  tank.  Thats  about  150g.  Should  I  go  with  those  dimensions  or  maybe  increase  the  length  or  width  a  bit  to  make  it  180g?
 
 I  was  planning  on  using  my  existing  Reef  Octopus  skimmer  and  also  install  the  weipro  2012,  which  happens  to  be  my  old  one  as  an  additional  backup.  Haven't  plane  for  any  reactors  yet.  My  LFS  guy  suggested  an  aquazonic  light  which  supposedly  has  two  MH  and  T5's  under  one  hood.  Will  explore  that  option  along  with  the  option  of  LED's.  
 
 I  won't  be  using  a  canister  filter.  I  was  suggested  a  6000g  flow  rate  Boyu  Pump  for  water  movement.  What  kind  of  Wave  Makers  should  I  go  for?
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

                                                   
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 Discussed  the  size  of  the  aquarium  with  my  LFS  guy.  He  suggested  that  I  got  for  a  4'  height  2'  width  and  2.5'  height  tank.  Thats  about  150g.  Should  I  go  with  those  dimensions  or  maybe  increase  the  length  or  width  a  bit  to  make  it  180g?
 
 I  was  planning  on  using  my  existing  Reef  Octopus  skimmer  and  also  install  the  weipro  2012,  which  happens  to  be  my  old  one  as  an  additional  backup.  Haven't  plane  for  any  reactors  yet.  My  LFS  guy  suggested  an  aquazonic  light  which  supposedly  has  two  MH  and  T5's  under  one  hood.  Will  explore  that  option  along  with  the  option  of  LED's.  
 
 I  won't  be  using  a  canister  filter.  I  was  suggested  a  6000g  flow  rate  Boyu  Pump  for  water  movement.  What  kind  of  Wave  Makers  should  I  go  for?                

 
 I  don't  think  its  a  good  idea  to  take  advice  from  an  lfs,  esp  for  a  marine  or  reef  tank.
 
 Anyways,  go  for  a  4'  length  x  2.5.ft  wide  and  about  18"  height.  Don't  go  more  than  18"  in  height.   
 
 Which  model  of  the  Reef  Octopus  did  you  pick  up  ?  I  don't  think  the  weipro  will  of  any  use,  but  you  can  still  run  it.  If  your  going  to  use  a  phosphate  removal  media  or  bio  pellets,  its  better  to  run  it  in  a  reactor.   As  for  lighting,  don't  go  with  the  one  your  lfs  suggest  as  MH  will  give  out  a  lot  of  heat,  Instead  DIY  a  LED  fixture  for  your  tank.  
 
 That's  a  good  size  return  pump.  Circulation  pumps,  you  can  go  for  Tunze  or  Sicce.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Moving House - Chance to go for a bigger tank??????? Reply with quote

 Gokul,
 
 Design  the  entire  layout  before  placing  any  order.  Buy  the  equipment  next  and  then  build  your  tank  and  the  stand.  That  will  help  you  have  a  complete  setup  as  per  what  you  wish.  
 
 If  you  think,  you  will  like  to  keep  a  tank  forever,  it  is  best  you  have  the  platform  built  for  it,  with  some  space  behind  the  tank  to  have  all  the  accessories.  You  should  see  some  of  the  builds  on  few  of  the  reef  keeping  sites.
 
 There  will  still  be  some  things  missing  here  and  there,  but  that  is  ok.
 
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