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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Co2 Splitter Reply with quote

 I  have  a  few  questions  regarding  CO2  setups.  I  recently  went  the  DIY  CO2  way  for  one  of  my  5  tanks  and  if  the  results  are  satisfactory,  I  would  like  to  go  in  for  a  24/7  Pressurized  CO2  setup  for  all  of  my  tanks.  However,  I  have  a  few  questions  and  would  be  grateful  if  I  could  be  enlightened  about  the  same.
 
 1.  My  tanks  are  not  placed  all  together  and  the  distance  between  the  5  tanks  is  about  10  mts.  between  them.  Is  it  possible  that  I  get  a  large  CO2  cylinder  and  use  the  same  cylinder  to  connect  all  the  tanks  using  these  high  pressure  pipes?
 2.  What  all  do  I  need  other  than  a  CO2  Cylinder?
 3.  What  is  the  size  of  the  largest  CO2  Cylinder  I  can  get  commercially?  Any  indicative  prices?
 4.  From  whom  can  I  source  these  items?
 
 Thanks  in  advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 1.  My  tanks  are  not  placed  all  together  and  the  distance  between  the  5  tanks  is  about  10  mts.  between  them.  Is  it  possible  that  I  get  a  large  CO2  cylinder  and  use  the  same  cylinder  to  connect  all  the  tanks  using  these  high  pressure  pipes?
 
 Yes.  You  could
 
 2.  What  all  do  I  need  other  than  a  CO2  Cylinder?
 
 You  need  splitters.  Needle  valve  for  each  tank.  You  will  have  to  set  the  bps  for  each  tank.  Hence  you  need  5  needle  valve.
 
 3.  What  is  the  size  of  the  largest  CO2  Cylinder  I  can  get  commercially?  Any  indicative  prices?
 4.  From  whom  can  I  source  these  items?  
 
 Point  3  and  4,  am  not  aware.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 Hi  Sumit
 
 1.  Yes  you  can.
 
 2.  You  will  need,  Co2  Regulator,  Solenoid  (Optional),  Needle  Valves  (for  every  connection  to  a  tank),  CO2  Resistant  Piping,  Check  Valves,  Bubble  Counters  and  Diffusers/Reactors.
 
 3.  For  keepinginside  the  house,  You  can  look  at  a  4.5  Kg  or  a  7  Kg  Cylinder.
 
 4.  Try  contacting  the  local  welding  shops  and  see  if  they  can  help  you  get  a  Cylinder.  The  remaining  parts  like  Regulator,  Needle  Valves  have  to  be  got/custom  built  separately  for  Aquarium  Purpose
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 If  I  use  a  2kg  cylinder  for  one  tank  and  use  it  24/7,  how  many  days  will  the  cylinder  last  me?  I  will  inquire  about  CO2  refill  stores  locally  and  consider  the  most  economical  option.  I  may  get  individual  equipment  per  tank  or  go  for  one  set  for  all  tanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

                                                   
SumitB  wrote  (View  Post):                
If  I  use  a  2kg  cylinder  for  one  tank  and  use  it  24/7,  how  many  days  will  the  cylinder  last  me?  I  will  inquire  about  CO2  refill  stores  locally  and  consider  the  most  economical  option.  I  may  get  individual  equipment  per  tank  or  go  for  one  set  for  all  tanks.                

 
 A  2  kg  might  last  for  about  30-45  days  running  24/7  depending  on  the  bubble  rate
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 why  you  want  it  to  run  24hrs  plants  need  them  only  when  there  is  light
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 Contact  pneumatic  shops  for  your  piping  job..
 and  to  control  the  co2  supply  follow  Seetharam's  advice.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 Ok  guys,  an  update.  I  have  managed  to  arrange  for  3  units  of  4.5  Kg  Type  B  &  C  CO2  cylinders  of  MiniMax  make  from  a  person  here  locally.  However,  I  will  have  to  arrange  for  the  refilling  of  these  myself  which  I  will  try  and  inquire  and  get  it  done.  I  have  decided  to  only  use  these  cylinders  on  my  large  tanks  and  won't  use  CO2  on  my  18"  tanks.  The  3  tanks  I  plan  to  use  the  CO2  on  are  already  running  individual  timers  for  lights  and  I  want  to  know  that  can  I  use  the  same  timers  to  somehow  control  the  CO2  dosage  to  come  on  and  off  with  the  lights.  Is  it  even  possible?  For  reference  sake,  the  lights  on  my  tanks  come  on  at  1600  hours  and  are  turned  off  at  2200  hours  everyday.  If  this  is  doable,  what  other  equipment  will  I  need  per  tank?
 
 I  am  aware  that  I  will  need  the  following:
 1.  CO2  Diffuser  -  Ceramic  or  Glass?
 2.  What  Tubing  will  be  needed?
 3.  ?
 4.  ?
 5.  ?
 6.  ?
 
 I  am  an  absolute  beginner  with  planted  tanks  using  CO2  and  thus  so  many  questions.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Advice on Co2 Kit Reply with quote

 Sumit,
 You  can  of  course  use  your  timers  for  CO2  as  well.
 But  you'll  have  to  buy  solenoid  valve  for  that.  (Personally  I  think  its  a  waste  and  you  may  run  CO2  24x7,  just  raise  the  diffuser  at  light  off  time)
 1.  Ceramic  Diffuser  is  fine.  Better  still  if  you  can  lay  hands  on  CO2  reactors.
 2.  Pneumatic  Tubings,  available  at  hardware  shops  dealing  with  pneumatic  products.
 3.  Bubble  Counters
 4.  Needle  Valves
 5.  CO2  Regulator  (Double  Stage  is  better,  but  single  stage  will  do)
 6.  CO2  Drop  Checker  (Optional)
 7.  A  good  pair  of  scissors  for  weekly  pruning.  Smile
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 Thank  you  Saurabh.  About  the  solenoid,  I  can  understand  the  concern  about  it  being  a  waste  of  money  but  I  am  sometimes  traveling  for  work  and  on  those  days,  I  would  not  like  to  let  the  CO2  running  thus  the  concern.
 
 Can  anyone  tell  me  in  how  many  days  does  the  DIY  CO2  start  having  its  effect?
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 @  mandragoran,,  well,  if  the  circulation  of  water  is  good  enough  then  that  keeps  stirring  the  water  and  makes  more  oxygen  from  air   dissolve  into  air.
 
 
 @  Nidhi,,  you  have  no  idea  of  what  glycolysis  is,  i  can't  help  fix  that.
 but  keeping  aside  that  glycolysis  part  ,,,  if  you  consider  yourself  running  at  a  faster  rate  in  our  normal  day  time  conditions  yet  your  body  experiences  an  slight  level  of  anaerobic  phase  of  glycolysis,  now  what  does  that  mean?
 it  means  the  cells  of  your  body  couldn't  suffice  itself  to  the  amount  of  oxygen...  now  you  will  see  the  adverse  state  when  you  start  running  at  night  in  a  jungle,  where  all  plants  release  co2  during  dark  phase.
 
 
 But  for  those  who  really  wanna  experience  this,  use  a  compatible  CO2  reactor  and  pressurized  CO2,   let  it  run  from  morning  and  reduce  the  water  flow  levels  or  turn  off  any  external  source  you  use  to  stir  the  water.
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