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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 There  is  a  good  design  on  IAH  for  a  sump  filter,  if  your  are  keen  on  DIY,  then  a  sump  filter  with  a  return  pump  can  be  the  best.  look  for  in  the  DIY  section  for  sump  filteration.  Its  like  a  mini  filteration  plant.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Ok,  I  am  tempted  to  try  out  a  DIY  external/HOB  hybrid  filter.
 I  am  looking  for  advice  on  what  powerhead/pump  to  use.
 
 ...                

 If  you  go  through  all  the  pages  of  below  link,you  ll  not  have  any  more  doubts  with  DIY.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9784&start=0
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Checking  out  now...
 
 Meanwhile,  I  was  planning  for  a  simpler  design.
 My  filter  design  is  to  have  the  powerhead  inside  the  tank  and  the  filter  media  in  a  compartment  outside  the  tank.
 The  powerhead  will  be  connected  to  the  out  of  the  filter  media  compartment.
 Given  this  design,  what  kind  of  a  powerhead  might  I  need?
 From  here  (http://www.shopatsimba.com/categories_list.php?cPath=584_579&filter_id=147&page=1&sort=5a)?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Ok,  I  am  tempted  to  try  out  a  DIY  external/HOB  hybrid  filter.
 I  am  looking  for  advice  on  what  powerhead/pump  to  use.
 
 ...                

 If  you  go  through  all  the  pages  of  below  link,you  ll  not  have  any  more  doubts  with  DIY.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9784&start=0                

 
   FANTASTIC  ADVICE  -  THANK  YOU  SAI-  the  best  design  and  thanks  to  Hamza  too  well  demosntrated-
 
 I'd  say  go  ahead  with  it.  its  so  simple
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Hamza  has  done  at  least  2  of  these!
 
 Don't  think  I  have  the  skills  to  pull  this  off!
 Will  attempt  something  smaller  in  scale  Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Checking  out  now...
 
 Meanwhile,  I  was  planning  for  a  simpler  design.
 My  filter  design  is  to  have  the  powerhead  inside  the  tank  and  the  filter  media  in  a  compartment  outside  the  tank.
 The  powerhead  will  be  connected  to  the  out  of  the  filter  media  compartment.
 Given  this  design,  what  kind  of  a  powerhead  might  I  need?
 From  here  (http://www.shopatsimba.com/categories_list.php?cPath=584_579&filter_id=147&page=1&sort=5a)?                

 
 
 Well  its  not  just  the  volume  of  water  but  it  is  also  about  the  particle  accumaltion  (straining)inside  the  filteration  container.  A  10%  volume  of  dirt  acumalation  in  about  1  week  will  require  changing  of  media  or  washing  the  same.  besides,  the  bio  load  which  has  dissolved  in  the  water  will  require  WC.  So  all  these  ratios  must  perform  together,
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Whoa!
 Need  some  more  reading...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Will  try  and  come  up  with  the  diagram  soon  and  post  it  here.
 Then  we  can  debate  a  little  more  on  the  design...
 
 For  a  planted  10G,  shouldn't  just  mechanical  filtration  be  enough?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Will  try  and  come  up  with  the  diagram  soon  and  post  it  here.
 Then  we  can  debate  a  little  more  on  the  design...
 
 For  a  planted  10G,  shouldn't  just  mechanical  filtration  be  enough?                

 
 Generaly  all  filers  have  some  media.  Mechanical  filter  will  surely  strain  the  gunk  and  hold  it  in  place/container,  but  only  those  particles  which  are  floating  in  the  tank.
 
 since  yours  is  a  planted  tank  it  will  firstly  depend  on  what  food  you  are  providing  to  the  fish.  
 
 if  sinking  food  is  given,  then  obviously  it  will  settle  at  the  bottom  and  a  little  on  the  plants  also,  so  the  fishes  will  dig  the  substrate  and  therefore  the  filer  will  also  collect  a  little  of  fine  substrate.  
 
 if  food  is  floating  one,  then  at  some  time  or  the  other  the  residual  food  particles  will  settle  at  the  bottom,  at  sometime,  and  may  get  collected.  
 
 But  what  about  dissolved  ammonia?  
 
 plants  will  consume  a  certain  amount  only,  but  where  will  the  rest  go?  
 
 So  also,  which  fish  you  keep  in  your  tank,  bottom  dwellers,  top  dwellers,  aggressive,  slow  and  hiding.  
 
 these  are  the  main  ratios
 
 Dwelling:  Food:Movement:secretion:accumalation:return:WC:%ofWC:Time  of  WC   Crying or Very sad  so  much  to  understan  and  remember>  If  Trevor  was  alive  he  may  have  said,  just  go  for  it  man  dont  think  of  all  the  theory..  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 :)
 
 Am  just  going  to  plunge  into  it!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 This  filter  is  almost  cleaning  the  gunk  and  keeps  the  water  clean,  but  at  any  time  there  can  be  amonia  spike  however  its  doing  the  job  well  as  long  as  I  am  changing  the  water  every  3rd  day.  In  the  present  case  (real  time)  this  water  is  about  5  days  old  and  I  feed  them  those  cheap  red-green  granules.  so  imagine  the  bio  load  and  therefore  I  have  kept  this  tank  bare  bottom-  I  love  goldies.  :grin
 
 Filter  video
 
 PS  BTW-  how  do  I  load  a  you  tube  video  here...  Surprised
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Got  a  Boyu  (SP101-400)  480L/H  powerhead  and  made  the  below  filter  thingy...
 Not  quite  happy  with  it,  as  I  have  to  start  the  flow  by  sucking  out  water  from  the  outflow.  Also  initially  had  planned  to  have  the  powerhead  attached  to  the  outflow,  but  since  it  didn't  really  work,  had  to  connect  to  the  inflow  of  the  filter...
 
 Was  considering  getting  the  powerhead  exchanged  for  a  Boyu  EF-05  instead.  Then  realized  that,  as  it's  flow  was  low,  I'd  still  need  a  powerhead...  So  keeping  it  for  now.
 Will  try  out  making  another  one  with  a  bigger  container  maybe...
 
 This  powerhead  is  not  the  most  suited  for  such  a  project...  :(
 
 Those  fittings  are  1/2"  PVC  nozzles  connected  to  1/2"  PVC  couplings  (with  threads  inside)  and  the  washers  are  those  foam  like  rings  found  at  the  bottom  of  CD  spindles  Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 today  i  bought  a  over  the  top  filter.  It  has  a  boyu  power  head  filter  with  a  sump  which  you  can  keep  on  top  of  the  tank  with  adjustable  length.  The  sump  has  enough  space  for  filter  media  and  the  price  for  the  entire  setup  is  6xx.  It  has  400lph  capacity.  I  got  the  power  head  changed  to  a  sunsun  600lph  for  50more  rs.  Boyu  uf-130  is  the  model  name.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Budget Filter for 10G planted tank Reply with quote

 Top  filter  won't  suit  my  tank,  as  it'll  be  planted...
 Am  thinking  of  just  using  the  powerhead  for  CO2  diffusion,  with  a  sponge  attached  to  intake  for  filtration.
 Would  that  suffice  for  the  initial  setup,  i.e.  when  I  have  just  planted  and  filled  in  the  tank?
 
 (If  not,  will  try  a  Canister/HOB,  with  this  powerhead  for  additional  circulation  and  CO2  diffusion...)
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