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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 After  hearing  a  lot  about  these  beauties,  I'm  now  an  official  discuss  fan.  So  I  need  some  expert  tips  on  keeping  discuss.  Like  tank  size  for  two  specimens  and  any  other  special  requirements  and  also  pls  let  me  know  if  anyone  is  planning  to  sell  some  juvies  or  at  least  the  normal  cost  of  one  in  India.  Thanks  in  advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Hi  Victor1061,
 
 With  due  respect  to  the  opinions  of  Experts  and  fellow  hobbyists,  my  2  cents  to  start  with  :
 
 1)  Better  to  go  with  a  minimum  count  of  4-6  Discus  fishes  as  they  do  best  in  a  group(maybe  the  same  strain  as  well,  might  just  leave  this  to  an  individual  choice).  Watch  some  videos  if  assorted  lot  looks  good  or  the  same  strain  lot
 2)  A  tank  of  at  least  3  feet  or  even  better  4  feet,  height  of  2  feet  is  best  and  depth  can  be  1.5  to  2  ft  again
 3)  Species  alone  tank  is  better,  although  you  could  add  in  some  albino  corydora  to  clean  up  some  left  over  food  and  maybe  some  schooling  fish  like  Rummy  nose  or  Cardinal  tetras(again  these  are  optional)
 4)  A  spare  tank  to  store/  age  water  and  a  hospital  tank
 5)  Fish  food  could  vary  from  Hikari  Discus  bio  gold,  tetra  bits,  Viking  pellets  to  home  made  BHM/GHM  
 6)  Branded  heater  150W/  200W  for  a  3  feeter  and  300W  for  a  4  feeter(need  to  check  this  with  experts)
 7)  Siphon  tube,  spare  bucket,  net..you  know  the  rest.
 Cool  If  you  are  able  to  see  you  discus  grow  well  and  are  happy,  THEN  think  about  breeding  or  anything  more
 9)  Temp  at  29  deg  celsius  would  be  ideal
 
 IMHO,  keep  things  simple  and  you  will  succeed.  Do  not  panic  when  you  notice  a  problem.  Research  online  and  on  here  of  course  and  make  a  note  of  the  common  ailments  and  treatment  procedure,  familiarize  yourself  with  the  treatment  procedure,  etc
 
 Again  in  my  experience,  source  the  Discus  from  a  good  breeder.  Do  not  fall  prey  to  someone  selling  them  at  low  price.  Familiarize  on  how  to  select  your  discus  fish  from  a  lot,  to  identify  stunted  ones  and  sick  ones.
 
 good  luck  and  keep  us  posted  on  your  progress.
 
 Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 ++1  karan...
 
 Convinced  after  reading  your  instructions...me  following  the  exact  till  now.
 All  my  8  discus  seems  to  be  happy  and  healthy  Clapping
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Victor,
 Please  make  it  a  point  to  go  through  the  sticky  by  Moderator  Yogesh  specifically  meant  to  answer  all  starter  queries  by  discus  enthusiasts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  wonderful  info  karan,  now  it  seems  possible  to  get  my  discuss  dream  accompolished.  I  currently  have  a  5  feet  tank  which  is  currently  filled  with  my  cichlids-oscar,GT,  RD  etc.  So  i  will  be  selling  them  and  converting  my  5  feeter  to  a  discuss  tank.  I  also  have  a  2  feet  tank  which  i  have  kept  for  my  jaguar  cichlid  fry  4  of  em  each  1inch  .  Is  it  possible  to  move  them  along  with  the  discuss  i  buy  to  the  main  5  feet  tank.  And  what  can  i  add  for  substrate  for  discuss.  please  advice.
 
 Thanks,
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Is  it  gonna  be  a  BareBottom  tank?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Vishnu,
 
 I  do  not  think  it  would  be  a  wise  idea  to  move  the  discus  along  with  the  jaguar  fry(I  am  guessing  this  is  the  combo  you  are  talking  abt).  Better  to  keep  the  Jaguar  fry  in  their  2ft  tank.
 
 Per  the  discussions,  opinions  for  a  discus  tank.  It  looks  like  having  them  in  a  BB(bare  bottom)  tank  is  what  is  widely  accepted.  Simpy  because  it  is  easy  to  maintain  a  BB  tank,  in  terms  of  siphoning  out  dirt,  left  over  food  and  more  than  anything  the  tank  would  look  neat.  
 
 The  other  two  things  I  forgot  to  mention  are:
 
 1)  Filtration:  Go  with  a  biological  filter,  like  a  sponge  filter.  For  a  5  feeter  I  guess  you  need  two  of  the  largest  bio-foam  filters.  Advice  you  not  to  use  a  HOB(hang  on  back)  or  external  canister  although,  it  is  not  completely  disagreed  to  use  one.  This  is  because  Discus  are  native  to  quiet  still  waters.  So  any  of  these  filters  would  cause  turbulence  and  might  keep  them  stressed.  Trust  me,  stressed  out  Discus  would  be  the  last  thing  you  wanna  see  ;)
 
 2)  WC(Water  change):  I  am  not  sure  where  you  are  put  up  in  BLR  and/  or  the  water  source.  If  you  have  a  good  supply  of  Cauvery  nothing  like  it.  Remember,  from  what  I  have  experienced.  Juvenile  to  semi  adults  would  do  best  with  regular,  large  water  changes.  Ive  seen  some  hobbyists  do  upto  90%  wc  once  daily.  I  would  say  atleast  25-50%  wc  would  do  good.  If  you  can  do  more,  nothing  like  it.  Important  note,  the  fresh  water  added,  SHOULD  be  more  or  less  at  the  same  temp  as  the  current  water  in  the  tank.  Discus,  cannot  take  in  huge  temp  or  Ph  changes.
 
 Thanks,
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Thanks  karan  so  according  to  u  i  musn't  add  any  substrate  or  plants  and  only  sponge  filter  is  recomended.  And  also  as  u  said  are  the  jaguar  fry  any  threat  to  the  discuss  or  vice  versa  as  i  wanted  to  keep  the  other  tank  for  quarantine  well  anyway  i  would  do  as  u  recomended.  And  any  suggestions  for  tank  mates  for  discus.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Always  give  prime  importance  to  water  quality  when  keeping  Discus..........  Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Hi  Victor  good  to  know  that  you  want  to  keep  Discus.  
 
 Yes  yes  Go  Ahead....keep  bare  bottom  tank  preferably
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 Mr  Garothmaan  thank  you.  And  yes  i  understand  what  you  are  saying.  Keeping  cichlids  in  the  long  run  has  taught  me  all  that  i  need  to  know  about  keeping  water  quality  clean.  I  have  2  oscars,  2  red  devils,2  green  terrors  and  to  top  all  that  3  huge  pacus  in  a  5  feet  tank  and  still  with  50-70  percent  water  change  and  gravel  siphon  i'm  able  to  keep  my  tank  crystal  clean.  And  for  discus  i'm  planning  BB  tank  as  recomended  by  IAH  memebrs.  I'm  planning  to  add  2  big  sponge  filters  along  with  my  canister  filter.  I  would  still  need  guidance  from  all  experienced  IAHians  to  help  me  through  the  ordeal.  Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

                                                   
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Mr  Garothmaan  thank  you.  nk  as  recomended  by  IAH  memebrs.  I'm  planning  to  add  2  big  sponge  filters  along  with  my  canister  filter.  I  would  still  need  guidance  from  all  experienced  IAHians  to  help  me  through  the  ordeal.  Thanks                

 
 Right...  I  didnt  read  your  previous  posts  ...sorry.....but  please  go  ahead  and  get  discus   Drinking
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 Thanks  Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Hi  Victor,
 
 Welcome  to  Discus  Family.......:  thumb:  
 
 Lots  of  good  suggestion  already  posted  for  you.  Hope  it  will  help  you  to  start  keeping  discus.
 
 Here  is  my  some  views  from  my  small  experience.
 
 >  Go  for  bare  bottom  tank.  Easy  to  maintain,  etc.
 
 >  Thermostat  -  For  your  5  feet  tank  go  for  two  200watt  branded  thermostat.  Like  Rena,  Ehim  etc.
 
 >  Filtration  -  Yes  water  condition  is  the  prime  factor  to  keep  discus  healthy  as  well  as  happy.  I  will  suggest  avoid  2-3  big  sponge  filter  bcz  it  takes  lot  of  places.  My  suggestion  goes  for  a  external  filter  Like  EHIM-2217.  Also  you  can  add  a  big  sponge  filter  also.  Bcz  your  tank  is  5  ft.  So  need  good  filtration.  
 My  3  Discus  tank  have  power  filter.  No  issue  at  all.
 
 >  WC  -  It  will  totally  depend  upon  you.  You  can  do  daily  WC  if  you  have  enough  time.  Otherwise  go  for  40-50  WC  twice  in  a  week.  And  go  for  100%  wc  once  in  a  week.  because  it's  a  big  tank  so  if  you  have  a  real  good  filtration  system  then  100%  wc  once  in  a  week  only  is  sufficient,  which  I  do.
 
 >  Tank  mate  -  You  can  keep  some  corrys  like  Panda,  Julie,  Starbei  etc.,  Clown  Loach,  Bristol  nose  pleco  etc.  Also  they  are  helpful  to  clean  up  left  over  food.
 
 >  Food  -  GHM/BHM/  Tetra  Bits/  Sera/Hikari  Bio  Gold  etc.
 
 >  Temperature  -  Try  to  keep  temperature  within  28-30  degree.
 
 >  Source  of  Discus  -  You  should  buy  discus  from  a  good  source.  Here  no  compromise.  I  am  totally   agree  with  Karan.  You  can  easily  start  with  10-14  Discus  with  2-2.5"  size.
 
 >  It's  always  better  to  keep  a  hospital  tank.  
 
 >  Medicine  -  Try  to  avoid  medicine  as  much  as  possible  until  unless  it's  needed.
 
 
 I  think  for  now  it's  ok  to  start.......So  good  luck  Victor.....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Expert advice on keeping Discuss. Reply with quote

 Hi  Victor,
 
 Avoid  feeding  live  freshwater  aquatic  animals  like  Tubiflex  ,  blood  worms  to  your  discus  .
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