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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:28 am Post subject:  Reply with quote

 Hi,
 Microsol  B  is  not  available  in  in  Kolkata.  Can  anybody  from  IAH  send  me  it  through  courier?  Payment  can  be  made  by  online  money  transfer  or  DD.
 Waiting  for  some  member  to  jump  into  action  for  helping  me  out.
 
 Thanks  and  regards.
 
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 I  dont  promise...but  i  can  try  Smile
 in  the  meanwhile  why  dont  u  check  with  Amitava  from  kolkata..I  think  he  also  keeps  a  planted  tank.He  should  have  some  information.
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 Hi  Arup,
 
 Just  send  a  PM  to  Rufus.  He  will  arrange  everything  for  you.
 
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 i  have  already  mailed  and  SMSed  Rufus.  But  no  reply  till  date    Sad  .  Think  he  is  out  of  station.  Btw  what  is  his  no.  (is  it  9845039631?)
 
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 Hi  Arup
 
 Please  contact  
 
 GREENZ  
 70,  Bhogal  Road,  Jangpura,  New  Delhi  110014  
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 They  should  have  it  and  will  courier  the  same  to  you.
 
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 For  a  new  planted  tank  that  is  just  a  week  old,how  many  spoons  of  K2SO2,KNO3  and  Microsol  B  do  i  use  in  1  litre  of  water  to  prepare  the  PMDD.I  plan  to  get  the  pressurised  CO2  setup  only  after  a  month  or  so.Is  it  okay  for  me  to  start  off  with  pmdd  dosing  meanwhile?
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arupch  wrote:                
i  have  already  mailed  and  SMSed  Rufus.  But  no  reply  till  date    Sad  .  Think  he  is  out  of  station.  Btw  what  is  his  no.  (is  it  9845039631?)
 
 ______-
 Arup                

 
 Rufus,  has  had  a  baby  girl  recently,  he's  in  and  out  of  Bangalore.  It'll  be  a  while  before  he  can  step  in  I  think.  Yes  his  mobile  number  is  correct.
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fishnchips  wrote:                
For  a  new  planted  tank  that  is  just  a  week  old,how  many  spoons  of  K2SO2,KNO3  and  Microsol  B  do  i  use  in  1  litre  of  water  to  prepare  the  PMDD.I  plan  to  get  the  pressurised  CO2  setup  only  after  a  month  or  so.Is  it  okay  for  me  to  start  off  with  pmdd  dosing  meanwhile?                

 Your  plants  might  still  not  have  taken  root.  The  added  nutrients  might  be  excess  and  algae  will  take  hold.
 Better  wait  for  a  month  or  so  and  allow  new  shoots  to  germinate
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For  a  new  planted  tank  that  is  just  a  week  old,how  many  spoons  of  K2SO2,KNO3  and  Microsol  B  do  i  use  in  1  litre  of  water  to  prepare  the  PMDD.I  plan  to  get  the  pressurised  CO2  setup  only  after  a  month  or  so.Is  it  okay  for  me  to  start  off  with  pmdd  dosing  meanwhile?                

 
 Don't  dose  PMDD  or  Macros  until  the  CO2  setup  is  in  place.
 
 The  standard  PMDD  solution  you  prepare  is  about  one  heaped  tablespoon  of  Microsol_B  (approx  15  gms)  +  about  35  gms  of  MgSO4  to  one  liter  of  water.  Dose  this  at  1ml  per  day  to  280  liters  of  tank  volume.
 
 You  will  have  to  increase  the  dosage  when  your  plants  grow  well  or  if  you  have  very  fast  growers.  No  one  the  on  net  can  suggest  the  ideal  dosage  for  a  tank.  You  have  to  watch  your  plants  for  signs  of  deficiency  and  tailor  your  dosage  accordingly.
 
 You  can  add  the  K2SO4  and  KNO3  directly  to  the  tank  in  powder  or  liquid  form.  No  need  to  add  this  to  the  PMDD.  Use  Chuck  Gadd's  calculator  for  the  dosage.
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Just  wondering.........
 
 Many  micronutrient  mixes  are  sold  as  "foliars".  I  am  making  a  wild  guess  this  is  becuse  they  are  easily  absorbed  from  the  leaves  and  they  dont  need  to  reach  the  roots.                

 
 Absolutely  correct.  Microsol_B  can  be  used  asa  foliar  spray.
 
 
                                                 
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 For  those  looking  around  for  DTPA:  chelators  will  exchange  their  cations  easily  for  others.  That  is  the  reason  why  we  are  using  them  (see  below).  Mixing  equal  molar  concentrations  of  sodium  DTPA  and  ferrous  salts  like  ferrous  chloride  or  ferrous  sulphate  (ferrous  chloride  turns  mushy  as  it  is  so  highly  soluble  in  water  that  it  absorbs  moisture  from  air)  should  give  adequate  levels  of  ferrous  DTPA.  But  DTPA  salts,  like  many  other  lab  reagents,  are  costly  and  dont  come  in  small  amounts.  Maybe  people  could  pool  the  funds  if  they  are  really  interested.
                 

 
 Very  Very  expensive.  I  still  have  all  the  salts  with  me.  Very Happy  
 
 
                                                 
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 I  also  believe  sulphate  contributes  to  nonremovable  hardness,  while  chloride  contributes  to  salinity.  Comments/  correction  much  appreciated  on  this  aspect.                

 
 Absolutely  wrong.
 
 
                                                 
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 Deepesh
 
 Actually  plants  naturally  concentrate  potassium.  Even  human  cells  contain  20  times  more  potassium  than  sodium.  Once  plants  concentrate  potassium  it  is  used  as  a  currency  in  their  roots.  It  is  exchanged  for  other  cations.  To  take  in  one  ferrous  ion  the  plant  shells  out  two  potassium  ions  (ferrous  has  two  positive  charges  and  potassium  has  one  and  electrical  neutrality  is  maintained  when  micronutrients  are  taken  up).                

 
 No  comment.  This  is  new  territory  for  me.  I  need  to  read  up.
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 Is  Pmdd  supposed  to  be  red  in  colour.  It  was  not  that  red  when  I  started  but  after  storing  in  dark  it  is  deep  reddish  brown  color  It  has  microsol-b  in  it
 Is  it  okay?
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 Hello  Arup,
 
 I've  sent  you  a  PM  for  PMDD.
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 PMDD  should  be  light  Green  In  Colour  and  not  red...
 If  you  have  used  Microsol  B  &  Distilled  Water,  It  should  be  Light  green...
 
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 I  have  not  used  distilled  water  but  aquaguard  water.
 Will  it  make  a  diff.
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 I  mix  my  PMDD  in  tap  water.
 
 It's  Golden  brown  in  color,  like  beer.
 
 My  Microsol_B  stock  is  very  old,  probably  some  coloring  agent  is  added  to  it  now.
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